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For Signs Of How Much China Is Investing In Pak, Just Look At Karachi
World | Reuters | Updated: February 03, 2017 14:03 IST


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Pakistani officials are drafting plans for special economic zones to offer tax breaks to Chinese business

KARACHI: Chinese companies are in talks to snap up more businesses and land in Pakistan after sealing two major deals in recent months, a sign of deepening ties after Beijing vowed to plough $57 billion into a new trade route across the South Asian nation.

A dozen executives from some of Pakistan's biggest firms told Reuters that Chinese companies were looking mainly at the cement, steel, energy and textile sectors, the backbone of Pakistan's $270 billion economy.

Analysts say the interest shows Chinese firms are using Beijing's "One Belt, One Road" project - a global trade network of which Pakistan is a key part - to help expand abroad at a time when growth has slowed at home.


A Chinese-led consortium recently took a strategic stake in the Pakistan Stock Exchange, and Shanghai Electric Power acquired one of Pakistan's biggest energy producers, K-Electric, for $1.8 billion.

"The Chinese have got deep pockets and they are looking for major investment in Pakistan," said Muhammad Ali Tabba, chief executive of two companies in the Yunus Brothers Group cement-to-chemicals conglomerate.

Mohammad Zubair, Pakistan's privatisation minister until a few days ago, told Reuters that China's steel giant Baosteel Group is in talks over a 30-year lease for state-run Pakistan Steel Mills. Baosteel did not respond to a request for comment.


The negotiations come as Pakistani business sentiment turns, with companies betting that Beijing's splurge on road, rail and energy infrastructure under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) will boost the economy.

CPEC will connect China's Western region with Pakistan's Arabian Sea port of Gwadar through a network of rail, road and pipeline projects.

That will be funded by loans from China, and much of the business will go to Chinese enterprises.

The scale of Chinese corporate interest beyond that is difficult to gauge, but in Karachi, Pakistan's financial centre, sharply-dressed Chinese appear to outnumber Westerners in hotels, restaurants and the city's airport.

Rising skyscrapers testify to a construction boom in the city, businesses are printing Chinese-language brochures and salaries demanded by Pakistanis who speak Chinese have shot up.


The Chinese interest comes as Islamabad and Beijing discuss the next phase of CPEC: how to build Pakistan's industry with the help of Chinese state-owned industrial giants.

Pakistani officials are drafting plans for special economic zones which would offer tax breaks and other benefits to Chinese businesses.

But even before zones are established, Chinese investors are scoping out land deals.

"A lot of companies ... don't care about CPEC. They just want 500 acres of land to set up shop," said Naheed Memon, head of the Sindh province's Board of Investment.

Faisal Aftab, manager of private investment firm Oxon Partners, said Oxon was in talks with two state-run Chinese companies and a wealthy Chinese businessman to purchase and develop land for high-end residential and commercial properties.

"They are seeking land in prime markets such as Lahore, Karachi, and Islamabad," Aftab said.

But not everyone is excited by China's growing role in the Pakistan economy, including trade unions, who said Chinese companies' alleged mistreatment of local workers in Africa in the past had alarmed them.

"We have concern and reservations that the Chinese might use the same methods in Pakistan," said Nasir Mansoor, deputy general secretary of National Trade Union Federation, Pakistan, the national trade union body.

The Chinese government and Chinese companies have dismissed such accusations in the past.

And doing business may not be easy for newcomers. Security remains a concern despite a drop in Islamist militant violence, and in the World Bank's ease of doing business index, Pakistan ranks 144 out of 190 countries.
© Thomson Reuters 2017
 
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How much pakistanis are investing with interest rates ...
 
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Hopefully these investments create indigenous Pakistani industrialization with inclusive, in house development.

Chinese shouldn't just exploit Pakistani resources and cheap labor. It is up to us to make these investments benefitial for us.

But knowing our leaders at the top--Sharifs and Zardaris--I don't have much hope
 
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Hopefully these investments create indigenous Pakistani industrialization with inclusive, in house development.

Chinese shouldn't just exploit Pakistani resources and cheap labor. It is up to us to make these investments benefitial for us.

But knowing our leaders at the top--Sharifs and Zardaris--I don't have much hope
There's an old saying, ''If you are hungry, Chinese don't give you fish, rather they teach you how to catch one....so you never go hungry''.
 
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Why does it take China to develop Pakistan?
Why isn't Nawaz, MQM, PPP, etc, who have been around for 30+ years developed Pakistan yet?

Development is really easy, first you educate your population and build non corrupt institutions....

oh okay... I have my answer......
 
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There's an old saying, ''If you are hungry, Chinese don't give you fish, rather they teach you how to catch one....so you never go hungry''.

haha Bhai saab it's an Chinese proverb that goes "It's better to teach somebody how to catch a fish rather than to give one to him" etc...It has NOTHING to do with what Chinese do for "others"

Proverbs don't dictate International politics. National interests do.

Chinese leadership have absolute interests of its people and nation at their top most priority.

Our leadership? Well, do I need to say anything?

Hopefully our "institutions" keep a very effective eye on this whole process and get the best possible deal out of CPEC for Pakistan and it's future.

Really hope so
 
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Hopefully these investments create indigenous Pakistani industrialization with inclusive, in house development.

Chinese shouldn't just exploit Pakistani resources and cheap labor. It is up to us to make these investments benefitial for us.

But knowing our leaders at the top--Sharifs and Zardaris--I don't have much hope


Its upto pak govt to make it beneficial for pak as u said...

Say for instance any member here sets up a factory... off course he would b doing it for buissness not charity...
 
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The scale of Chinese corporate interest beyond that is difficult to gauge, but in Karachi, Pakistan's financial centre, sharply-dressed Chinese appear to outnumber Westerners in hotels, restaurants and the city's airport.
this i can confirm. was in karachi few weeks back at PC hotel and i was shocked at the number of Chinese staying there. i thought since they come with the monnay they might only go around the more affluent areas but i saw Chinese couples shopping even in middle class areas of Karachi like Tariq Road (that might have to do with tariq road having a lot of chinese restaurants though :p)
 
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haha Bhai saab it's an Chinese proverb that goes "It's better to teach somebody how to catch a fish rather than to give one to him" etc...It has NOTHING to do with what Chinese do for "others"

Proverbs don't dictate International politics. National interests do.

Chinese leadership have absolute interests of its people and nation at their top most priority.

Our leadership? Well, do I need to say anything?

Hopefully our "institutions" keep a very effective eye on this whole process and get the best possible deal out of CPEC for Pakistan and it's future.

Really hope so
There is no superpower in the history of the world which has given more gifts to its junior neighbors than exacting tributes from them. Just stay positive.
 
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There's an old saying, ''If you are hungry, Chinese don't give you fish, rather they teach you how to catch one....so you never go hungry''.
Another saying is there "only skilled can make a car, but an idiot can run that"..
Like that Making a nuclear power plant with the help of China is not bad, but what about running an electric distribution company or a stock exchange?? If your government can't do that,its ok.. But what about private players in your country?? And you are talking about catching fish.. Here actually China is catching fish from Pak's pond..
Many not so good news are there in this article..
Chinese companies were looking mainly at the cement, steel, energy and textile sectors, the backbone of Pakistan's $270 billion economy.
This statement underscores China's ambitions of capturing Pakistan market.. These industries are the backbone & China is investing in the same.. This will totally destruct your local industries.. How can you impose protectionist measures against big brother China??..

CPEC will connect China's Western region with Pakistan's Arabian Sea port of Gwadar through a network of rail, road and pipeline projects.

That will be funded by loans from China, and much of the business will go to Chinese enterprises.
Loans from China and business will go back to China.. Direct impact in economy is theOne of the biggest economical goodness of infrastructure development.. That is it increase money circulations within a country.. Locals will get employment, commodity prices will increase, cement,steel, sand etc industries will benefit.. But here all business goes to China.. They will choose everything.. They will use Chinese cement, steel etc because all imports for CPEC are tax free.. All machineries from China.. All technologies, expertise, designs all from China.. 10000 workers from China ( how many Pakistanis got job, no one bothers).. Money coming & going to China.. All payments in dollar even labour charges ( no benefit for local currency & forex reserves).. But Pakistan govt have to repay the loans in Dollar only..
aisal Aftab, manager of private investment firm Oxon Partners, said Oxon was in talks with two state-run Chinese companies and a wealthy Chinese businessman to purchase and develop land for high-end residential and commercial properties.
Is this means non resident Chinese can buy property in Pakistan??
 
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