How many countries does China have border disputes - Results of my search

[PeaceGen]

Now we all know what's really in your mind, if it's never in your mind you won't be able to say it at all, at least try to be an honest person. Insulting me? No, you are insulting yourself, I don't feel nothing.

you're the one lying to yourself here, you're deluding yourself with your greater-nation-than-yours issues..

we work in alliances of many countries. our total free nations population is larger than China's!

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

But is India debt-trapping other nations, like China does?
and India is definitely not building up a massive marine and advanced airpower capability for their military. India's military plays more of a true defense role, if i'm not mistaken..

China or Pakistan forget it even if india have war with Sri Lanka, india would never be able to pull off they have many many divisions with in india so first 3 weeks of war everyone in india act like bollywood heros but then war start with in.
maybe india is planning on defence cuz it certainly cant attack china.
The amount of hate india have with in i dont know how they are still surviving.

 

[PeaceGen]

China or Pakistan forget it even if india have war with Sri Lanka, india would never be able to pull off they have many many divisions with in india so first 3 weeks of war everyone in india act like bollywood heros but then war start with in.
maybe india is planning on defence cuz it certainly cant attack china.
The amount of hate india have with in i dont know how they are still surviving.

it's my belief that the only legitimate purpose for any army or air force or space force should be strictly defensive only.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

ok, i clearly made you angry. please calm down just a little ok, and i'll tell you what we're likely to do about this..

(1) over the next decade, we'll get more vocal in our media outlets over here in the west about the dangers we believe China poses to the free nations of Earth.
(2) we'll use that decade to make it possible to boycot China *in ways that permanently bring production of goods back into western territories, and/or nations like India*.
(3) we'll then wait for the Chinese internal economy to collapse and force changes at the highest levels and mid ranking levels of the Chinese government, who are more in line with what the people want by then, after getting a decade or so worth of indoctrination by western mass media.

See, we over here *allow* our ancestor's sins to be uttered against us, but only so much as is practical for everyday life to be peaceful and cooperative. We even have statues all over our cities that remind us of these past sins, as well as statues for our more inspiring former leaders.

And i don't want to see even an economic / diplomatic war between China and the west, let that be clear.
But don't get me wrong; when forced into a fight, i'll try to win that fight. And such is the common way of thinking about conflict and violence over here.

China is less trade dependent than any western country except the US. Good luck trying to do anything to China economically.

List of countries by trade-to-GDP ratio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Belgium	85.1 %	84.3 %	169.4 %	2017
Netherlands	86.5 %	74.8 %	161.3 %	2017
Lithuania	81.3 %	79.3 %	160.6 %	2017
Slovenia	82.2 %	72.6 %	154.8 %	2017
Czech Republic	79.5 %	72.2 %	151.7 %	2017
Estonia	78.0 %	73.5 %	151.5 %	2017

Austria	53.9 %	50.8 %	104.7 %	2017
Denmark	55.2 %	48.2 %	103.4 %	2017

Germany	47.2 %	39.7 %	86.9 %	2017
Sweden	45.3 %	41.1 %	86.4 %	2017

China

19.8 %

18.0 %

37.8 %

2017

United States

11.9 %

14.7 %

26.6 %

2016

 

[PeaceGen]

China is less trade dependent than any western country except the US. Good luck trying to do anything to China economically.

List of countries by trade-to-GDP ratio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Belgium	85.1 %	84.3 %	169.4 %	2017
Netherlands	86.5 %	74.8 %	161.3 %	2017
Lithuania	81.3 %	79.3 %	160.6 %	2017
Slovenia	82.2 %	72.6 %	154.8 %	2017
Czech Republic	79.5 %	72.2 %	151.7 %	2017
Estonia	78.0 %	73.5 %	151.5 %	2017

Austria	53.9 %	50.8 %	104.7 %	2017
Denmark	55.2 %	48.2 %	103.4 %	2017

Germany	47.2 %	39.7 %	86.9 %	2017
Sweden	45.3 %	41.1 %	86.4 %	2017

China

19.8 %

18.0 %

37.8 %

2017

United States

11.9 %

14.7 %

26.6 %

2016

i did not know that. thanks for sharing it.

but maybe you assume that all conflicts need to get resolved (eventually) by the projection of military power.
they don't, in the age of the internet and live TV. prolonged media war can be just as effective, these days.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

maybe you assume that all conflicts need to get resolved (eventually) by the projection of military power.
they don't, in the age of the internet and live TV. prolonged media war can be just as effective, these days.

I don't assume that at all. I'm showing you that Europe is far more trade dependent than China is. In a disruption of trade such as a boycott, Europe has more to lose.

 

[PeaceGen]

I don't assume that at all. I'm showing you that Europe is far more trade dependent than China is. In a disruption of trade such as a boycott, Europe has more to lose.

not if we convince our people first of the need to bring production "back home", and to export it to new nations that want to *also* grow with western money spent on products they'd produce for us.

and to note : that's one of the reasons i do like the Chinese belt and road initiative, and one of the reasons i'm *open* to the idea of multipolarity and Chinese **cooperative leadership** over the South China Sea.

one of the main filters on the anger that's now steadily increasing on all sides in this conflict, will be the tax revenue that China can tap by operating it's belt and road initiative for peaceful purposes.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

not if we convince our people first of the need to bring production "back home", and to export it to new nations that want to *also* grow with western money spent on products they'd produce for us.

and to note : that's one of the reasons i do like the Chinese belt and road initiative, and one of the reasons i'm *open* to the idea of multipolarity and Chinese **cooperative leadership** over the South China Sea.

one of the main filters on the anger that's now steadily increasing on all sides in this conflict, will be the tax revenue that China can tap by operating it's belt and road initiative for peaceful purposes.

Chinese industry produces mainly for China, as shown by the trade statistics.

EU industry produces mostly for export.

So you can't really bring anything back home - you already have it, you already are exporting as hard as you can. 161% of Netherlands GDP is trade already.

 

[PeaceGen]

Chinese industry produces mainly for China, as shown by the trade statistics.

EU industry produces mostly for export.

So you can't really bring anything back home - you already have it, you already are exporting as hard as you can. 161% of Netherlands GDP is trade already.

you fail to understand that with our own propaganda measures, which are only just starting, we *can* bring production of the goods that China now produces for us, back home.

it's probably going to take a few years for such measures to be pushed into laws that'll force our industries to adjust to yet another "new normal". fortunately this will give China the time it needs to adjust *it's* ways.

 

[Peace be there]

You think I am a troll becos you only want to hear things u want to hear and not the truth. While I speak the truth which is awful for your ears.

Nanjing is also a truth.would you love to hear it.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

it's my belief that the only legitimate purpose for any army or air force or space force should be strictly defensive only.

its a good belief but can you convience usa that iraq doesnt have weapon of mass distruction or syria, vietnam, or afghanistan powerful countries can do what ever they wants to bully any countries, this defence rule sudnt be for only poor countries.
india was bully but since they find bigger one they dont bark anymore, some countries just dont want to solve issue cuz they thing sooner of later time will come in their favor and they able to take what they think belongs to them, we sud hope for peace but the weapon world have it will be in use one day or another.

 

[PeaceGen]

its a good belief but can you convience usa that iraq doesnt have weapon of mass distruction or syria, vietnam, or afghanistan powerful countries can do what ever they wants to bully any countries, this defence rule sudnt be for only poor countries.
india was bully but since they find bigger one they dont bark anymore, some countries just dont want to solve issue cuz they thing sooner of later time will come in their favor and they able to take what they think belongs to them, we sud hope for peace but the weapon world have it will be in use one day or another.

if i understand things correctly, Pakistan has chosen to side with China? because you think China is stronger than India, and you hate Indians?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

you fail to understand that with our own propaganda measures, which are only just starting, we *can* bring production of the goods that China now produces for us, back home.

it's probably going to take a few years for such measures to be pushed into laws that'll force our industries to adjust to yet another "new normal". fortunately this will give China the time it needs to adjust *it's* ways.

so you'll get a small fraction of China's exports in exchange for tanking your economy? lol.

 

[PeaceGen]

so you'll get a small fraction of China's exports in exchange for tanking your economy? lol.

we'll create jobs domestically and take away a primary source for new wealth flowing into China! lol right back at ya.
good luck basing your economy on domestic consumption!

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

we'll create jobs domestically and take away a primary source for new wealth flowing into China! lol right back at ya.

the primary source of wealth in China, as shown in your own trade statistics, is China itself.

the primary source of wealth for the EU, as shown in your own trade statistics, is other countries.

this is easy to see. EU has very few software companies - which is the source of immense wealth - and is more dependent on American software than the US itself. however China has its own software companies.