How many brahmos does India have and how we defend against this ?

[Solidify]

Israels iron some is incapable of intercepting such munitions. They have only been used against sub sonic - mach 1 rockets with a predictable trajectory.

Pakistan does have a defence against it.

Ly80 sam can intercept it at range. The SAM itself travels at mach 3+

CAMMERs on the babur corvette can intercept as well

I was thinking of building a physical wall barrier around potential targets as the BrahMos flies sea skimming only 2 meters to low altitude atmosphere until it reach its targets. in order to have a confirmed defensive shield like Trump's Mexico wall against Mexicans traveling main land United States border crossing to give as example roughly speaking.

 

[Tornado23]

I was thinking of building a physical wall barrier around potential targets as the BrahMos flies sea skimming only 2 meters to low altitude atmosphere until it reach its targets. in order to have a confirmed defensive shield like Trump's Mexico wall against Mexicans traveling main land United States border crossing to give as example roughly speaking.

A physical wall wont do much. It would just fly above it when it comes near it. Thats how terrain hugging CM work.

What we need is a long range, medium range and short range sam systems to form a defensive shield in key locaitions. Med and short range has been achieved. Long range is yet to be seen

 

[arjunk]

Put shit tons of CIWS near the border. It can't stop ALCM but it will stop any land/sea hugging missile.

 

[Goenitz]

A physical wall wont do much. It would just fly above it when it comes near it. Thats how terrain hugging CM work.

What we need is a long range, medium range and short range sam systems to form a defensive shield in key locaitions. Med and short range has been achieved. Long range is yet to be seen

Can Oerlikon stop such a heavy missile? All they need prior feedback and alert.

 

[Solidify]

A physical wall wont do much. It would just fly above it when it comes near it. Thats how terrain hugging CM work.

What we need is a long range, medium range and short range sam systems to form a defensive shield in key locaitions. Med and short range has been achieved. Long range is yet to be seen

Nope BrahMos does NOT have capability to dodge physical barrier IN IT'S PATH (HENCE IF PHYSICAL BARRIER IS THERE BRAHMOS DON'T SEE IT - A DUMB MISSILE NOT INTELLIGENT), it ony has S- maneuver and also it does that as pre-programmed setting just before reaching end of its target flight before impact?
This is its major flaw in / during flight path (also during the last part of flight).

Below if you build 3+ levels of walls around target building using suffiient Gaps/ spaces ( hence any missile hit will impact before reaching target)? This method of wall barriers will significantly improve survival of priority assets.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

The purpose of the project is to determine are their ANY ways to counter measure the
mack 2.5 - 3.0 missile against incoming targets? The question for general's & defense staff
should be the defence of Pakistani assets in threat of incoming BrahMos missiles of India
which are tagged indestructable? Pakistan doesn't have a defensive shield as Tel Aviv or
New Dehli of multi layered defenses yet only HQ-9 types systems that are yet to be proven ?

Pakistan can track almost anything in it's air space. Thanks to hard work by PAF on project Vision.

As for interception as far as I know FD2000 has been on the list since late late 90s or early 2000s but PAF put the money in project Vision and decided to indut SAMs afterwards. LY80 are being integrated next step will be FD2000/HQ9.

Nope BrahMos does NOT have capability to dodge physical barrier IN IT'S PATH (HENCE IF PHYSICAL BARRIER IS THERE BRAHMOS DON'T SEE IT - A DUMB MISSILE NOT INTELLIGENT), it ony has S- maneuver and also it does that as pre-programmed setting just before reaching end of its target flight before impact?
This is its major flaw in / during flight path (also during the last part of flight).

Below if you build 3+ levels of walls around target building using suffiient Gaps/ spaces ( hence any missile hit will impact before reaching target)? This method of wall barriers will significantly improve survival of priority assets.
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Bahi what is the point of building walls ? GHQ k ird gird b walls khadi kardainge ?

Why not fast track induction of SAM systems and start research on Laser defence systems ?

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Nope BrahMos does NOT have capability to dodge physical barrier IN IT'S PATH (HENCE IF PHYSICAL BARRIER IS THERE BRAHMOS DON'T SEE IT - A DUMB MISSILE NOT INTELLIGENT), it ony has S- maneuver and also it does that as pre-programmed setting just before reaching end of its target flight before impact?
This is its major flaw in / during flight path (also during the last part of flight).

Below if you build 3+ levels of walls around target building using suffiient Gaps/ spaces ( hence any missile hit will impact before reaching target)? This method of wall barriers will significantly improve survival of priority assets.
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This type of defense project will be extremely expensive, why we Install Radars to detect/track/engage it with Short to medium ranged SAMs like CAMM ER/LY 80 and short Range SAMs like Chinese FL3000N/ RAM (Rolling air frame missiles) ESSM (Evolved sea sparrow missile) these short ranged SAMs are Specialized in intercepting Mach 3 targets and these are lot cheaper than your wall defenses

 

[White and Green with M/S]

I was thinking of building a physical wall barrier around potential targets as the BrahMos flies sea skimming only 2 meters to low altitude atmosphere until it reach its targets. in order to have a confirmed defensive shield like Trump's Mexico wall against Mexicans traveling main land United States border crossing to give as example roughly speaking.

No Brhamouse has no capability to cruise 2 meter above the surface, even subsonic Harpoon and French Exocet haven't that capability to sea skimming such low above the wave, Harpoon/Exocet have a capability to skim 4 to 5 meters above the wave, and Brahmouse is supersonic missiles it has no capability to skim that low (2 meter) because of friction, in fact no supersonic (Mach 3) anti ship missiles can skim 2 meter above the surface, Brahmouse and other supersonic anti ship missiles can cruise 10 to 30 meter above the wave, and do research before you post

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Nope BrahMos does NOT have capability to dodge physical barrier IN IT'S PATH (HENCE IF PHYSICAL BARRIER IS THERE BRAHMOS DON'T SEE IT - A DUMB MISSILE NOT INTELLIGENT), it ony has S- maneuver and also it does that as pre-programmed setting just before reaching end of its target flight before impact?
This is its major flaw in / during flight path (also during the last part of flight).

Below if you build 3+ levels of walls around target building using suffiient Gaps/ spaces ( hence any missile hit will impact before reaching target)? This method of wall barriers will significantly improve survival of priority assets.
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Few Brahmouse are enough for these structures, Pakistan needs Active defense not passive defense

 

[Solidify]

No Brhamouse has no capability to cruise 2 meter above the surface, even subsonic Harpoon and French Exocet haven't that capability to sea skimming such low above the wave, Harpoon/Exocet have a capability to skim 4 to 5 meters above the wave, and Brahmouse is supersonic missiles it has no capability to skim that low (2 meter) because of friction, in fact no supersonic (Mach 3) anti ship missiles can skim 2 meter above the surface, Brahmouse and other supersonic anti ship missiles can cruise 10 to 30 meter above the wave, and do research before you post

The reason for wall defence is you want to protect your building assets from being annihilated, prolong the survival offence, not relay on some radar which has barely 50-60% chance of destroying the incoming target.

As far as sea skimming missiles, well I have a pressure/burden of producing 15 YT content creators uploads monthly basis, so now I know Brahmos has 10-30 m flying above surface. No harm in learning from social media.

My next goal is to make Brahmos counter measures upload, any suggestions most welcome??

Pakistan can track almost anything in it's air space. Thanks to hard work by PAF on project Vision.

As for interception as far as I know FD2000 has been on the list since late late 90s or early 2000s but PAF put the money in project Vision and decided to indut SAMs afterwards. LY80 are being integrated next step will be FD2000/HQ9.

Bahi what is the point of building walls ? GHQ k ird gird b walls khadi kardainge ?

Why not fast track induction of SAM systems and start research on Laser defence systems ?

The goal is build strong defensive capabilities and to Solidify ANY threat while under attack by enemy. How hard the enemy can strike you in 2nd, 3rd & 4th wave attacks the survival of the offence depends on your assets. This method gives enemy twice or thrice more of headache to hit the SAME target over & over again as fire & forget.

 

[rEd cHiLLi]

Few Brahmouse are enough for these structures, Pakistan needs Active defense not passive defense

Brahmos chapter is over...next coming hypersonic tech. and missiles. World is first going towards that tech.Actually air defense system tech is not being as quickly advanced as the supersonic or hypersonic missiles are.Even subsonic missiles are frequently missed by a air defense system.Also babur or raad or nirbhay like subsonic missiles have terrain hugging capability which can not be easily detected by ADS.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

The reason for wall defence is you want to protect your building assets from being annihilated, prolong the survival offence, not relay on some radar which has barely 50-60% chance of destroying the incoming target.

As far as sea skimming missiles, well I have a pressure/burden of producing 15 YT content creators uploads monthly basis, so now I know Brahmos has 10-30 m flying above surface. No harm in learning from social media.

My next goal is to make Brahmos counter measures upload, any suggestions most welcome??

Not Applicable/ Expensive, air defense batteries should be layered hence it will be unseen wall and more reliable than your PASSIVE WALL DEFENSE

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Brahmos chapter is over...next coming hypersonic tech. and missiles. World is first going towards that tech.Actually air defense system tech is not being as quickly advanced as the supersonic or hypersonic missiles are.Even subsonic missiles are frequently m, issed by a air defense system.Also babur or raad or nirbhay like subsonic missiles have terrain hugging capability which can not be easily detected by ADS.

First fire your first hypersonic test vehicle than talk and Babar/RAAD/ NIBRAY, when terrian are rough, plains of punab/sindh there no place to hide for These CMs

 

[Solidify]

Not Applicable/ Expensive, air defense batteries should be layered hence it will be unseen wall and more reliable than your PASSIVE WALL DEFENSE

With all aspects considered, just take a moment to analyze how much does a single house unit cost to build in Pakistan? Then see the huge cost of Air Defence System which is very high. I am definitely not saying do not buy the Air defence system, go for it. But at the same time build 2nd or even 3rd tier defences by building walls around crucial assets this way fortified country's most important assets. Wall barrier around specific buildings is easiest to build any day simply.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

With all aspects considered, just take a moment to analyze how much does a single house unit cost to build in Pakistan? Then see the huge cost of Air Defence System which is very high. I am definitely not saying do not buy the Air defence system, go for it. But at the same time build 2nd or even 3rd tier defences by building walls around crucial assets this way fortified country's most important assets. Wall barrier around specific buildings is easiest to build any day simply.

Do you know what kind of penetrator fired by the enemy??? and how can these walls can defense other penetrators, for example you have wall to defined MK 84, if enemy fired MK 85 or 86 what can do that wall, the last thing we will have TARGET DESTROYED

PAF BELIEVES IN ACTIVE DEFENSE NOT PASSIVE DEFENSE