How Long will Turkey Stay In NATO for?

[mike2000 is back]

Really, how about Turkey stabbing in allies back by supporting ISIS, which has sworn to destroy west, simply as long as ISIS are killing Kurds in addition to other genocide.

Remember last year, the ISIS siege against Kobani, Turks tanks just sit idly while US airplanes pounding ISIS. Do you call that an ally?

That's null and void. ISIS is just a small fry to us compared to the Geo-political threat Russia poses to Europe. That's even if(that's a big IF) Turkey supports ISIS as you claim, i haven't seen any concrete prove of that as of yet, apart from the usual conspiracy theories. In fact these same people who claim Turkey is supporting/arming Isis are the same people claiming the U.S,U.K and France are supporting and arming ISIS as well. lol As i said before, unfortunately, i don't believe in conspiracy theories and bla bla bla.

The insignificant threat ISIS poses to western power is NOTHING compared to the grand scheme of the Geo political confrontation going on between Russia and western powers.ISIS is just a slide show to be honest. A perfect excuse used by U.S, U.K, France, and Russia to get involve in the region and secure their interests.Anybody who says ISIS poses a major Geo political threat to western powers is a naive fool. lol ISIS is just an irritant/minor nuisance to western powers and Russia, not a major threat per se.

Turkey still plays a crucial role in the middle east and black sea and Mediterranean for us, and keeps Russia's overt ambitions/aggression in check. It's still a useful ally. Anybody who thinks we will kick them out of NATO IS EITHER FOOLISH OR THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GEO POLITICAL REALITIES IN THE REGION, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND OUR INTERESTS/THREATS.

 

[T-123456]

You see as Europe is becoming more anti-islamic due to the refugee crisis, differences in culture and etc. Many of the countries within Europe who have always opposed Turkey to join the EU (and succeeded) are now blaming Turkey for flooding their nations with millions of immigrants. America at the same time seems to be supporting Turkeys enemies (the Kurds).

Mean while the Turks are becoming ever more fundamental in the Islamic beliefs and are actively supporting various islamic insurgencies across Asia. There is a fundamental split in culture, ideas between the Christian/secular West and Islamic Turkey within the NATO structure.

In the past Turkey's secular military/government allowed the country to be supportive of European/American/Western beliefs however since Erdogan has taken power, he seems to have taken over supreme power of the country and a military coup seems less and less likely as the days roll by.

So how long do you think Turkey will remain part of NATO? Will it require a certain course of action e.g. genocide of Kurds for the NATO membership to kick them out? Perhaps another war with Greece could be the tipping factor?

Yo Troll-opodoupolousmitsotakis,Turkiye stays in NATO,as long it wants to,no-one can kick us out.
You(Greeks) dont want another war with Turkiye,dont forget what happened the last time we fought each other.
Instead of Turkiye,you should focus on Western Europe,they are the ones treating you like dirt.
And why is it that Greeks in real life are cool people but on internet,they act like Spartacus?
Btw,why hide behind the Australian flag?

Turkey in NATO is a Cold War hangover from when they bordered the USSR. There's no reason for it to remain.

Try using that thingy in your scoll,maybe then,you will come up with something better.

BTW, I am not sure whether you are a troll or just dumb.

He is a dumb Greek-Australian troll.

Turkey has leverage over NATO and Euope. they are already blackmailing Germany to pay them billions of dollars a year or Turkey will just allow more refugees to flow into Europe through Turkey. I also don't blame Turkey solely for this mess or the blackmailing.

everyone is to blame from the U.S to Saudi Arabia.


NATO shouldn't even still exist in the first place

but all and all

NATO won't kick Turkey out and Turkey won't leave because who is going to back them?? unless Sunni Arabs form their own NATO

Another smartazz.

I wish NATO had been much more reluctant.

Well,the name is still there,does that count for something?

The "Sultan" lives in his own "glory" old days. That's why Turks are at odds with everyone, allies included. Russia need step up and do the world some good by slap on its ugly Gollum face.

You should help Russia in achieving that goal.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

AS long as Russia is a threat to Europe Turkey will remain a pivotal member of NATO. If Turkey threatened to leave US etc would beg Turkey to stay in.

 

[T-123456]

That's null and void. ISIS is just a small fry to us compared to the Geo-political threat Russia poses to Europe. That's even if(that's a big IF) Turkey supports ISIS as you claim, i haven't seen any concrete prove of that as of yet, apart from the usual conspiracy theories. In fact these same people who claim Turkey is supporting/arming Isis are the same people claiming the U.S,U.K and France are supporting and arming ISIS as well. lol As i said before, unfortunately, i don't believe in conspiracy theories and bla bla bla.

The insignificant threat ISIS poses to western power is NOTHING compared to the grand scheme of the Geo political confrontation going on between Russia and western powers.ISIS is just a slide show to be honest. A perfect excuse used by U.S, U.K, France, and Russia to get involve in the region and secure their interests.Anybody who says ISIS poses a major Geo political threat to western powers is a naive fool. lol ISIS is just an irritant/minor nuisance to western powers and Russia, not a major threat per se.

Turkey still plays a crucial role in the middle east and black sea and Mediterranean for us, and keeps Russia's overt ambitions/aggression in check. It's still a useful ally. Anybody who thinks we will kick them out of NATO IS EITHER FOOLISH OR THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GEO POLITICAL REALITIES IN THE REGION, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND OUR INTERESTS/THREATS.

You keep using the word ''still'',as in ''still a useful ally'',what if Turkiye is not ''useful'' anymore,what are your plans/suggestions then?

 

[mustafa erkan]

In fact these same people who claim Turkey is supporting/arming Isis are the same people claiming the U.S,U.K and France are supporting and arming ISIS as well. lol As i said before, unfortunately, i don't believe in conspiracy theories

Totaly agree with you.

A perfect excuse used by U.S, U.K, France, and Russia to get involve in the region and secure their interests.Anybody who says ISIS poses a major Geo political threat to western powers is a naive fool. lol ISIS is just an irritant/minor nuisance to western powers and Russia, not a major threat per se.

Agree with you again.I cant reliaze why Europans dont understand Russians,Iran,Iraq and Syria alliance will cut the connection between the energy (SA,Gulf States) and the growing economic zones ( high populations countries of Asia) not only for Turkey but also for them.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Totaly agree with you.

Agree with you again.I cant reliaze why Europans dont understand Russians,Iran,Iraq and Syria alliance will cut the connection between the energy (SA,Gulf States) and the growing economic zones ( high populations countries of Asia) not only for Turkey but also for them.

Well, cant blame some of my cou try meen and European colleagues. Since western Europe seems to be safe from any threats/instability for a longgg time now. Many of my countrymen and European friends have forgotten the geo political realities brewing up in Eastern Europe,baltics,Mediterranean,Black sea and the threat Russia poses to our interests. Its not until thaat threat starts knocking on our doors that they will finally come to their senses. I call it complacency. Unfortunately,by then it will be little too late.

Funny thing is among major ewestern European powers only Great Britain seems to fully understand this and is taking proactive actions to tackle this threat far away from home.

You keep using the word ''still'',as in ''still a useful ally'',what if Turkiye is not ''useful'' anymore,what are your plans/suggestions then?

Obviously, we never know whhen a country might change direction/alliances. So even the best allies today can be rivals tomorrow. Depends on leadership and future events.
However for het foreseeable future( just like since secound world war,) Turkey will remain a strong member of NATO.

 

[T-123456]

Obviously, we never know whhen a country might change direction/alliances. So even the best allies today can be rivals tomorrow. Depends on leadership and future events.
However for het foreseeable future( just like since secound world war,) Turkey will remain a strong member of NATO.

I know what you did there (and i know what you did last summer).
You think you can fool me,huh?
Dont even think about it

 

[mike2000 is back]

I know what you did there (and i know what you did last summer).
You think you can fool me,huh?
Dont even think about it

 

[T-123456]

 

[retaxis]

T-123456 I am not Greek (LOL wtf? Why not say I am Armenian or Israeli or Chinese?) and I am not a troll so I think you could stop with the name calling and grow the F up. You sound like a petulant little kid ranting his head off. P.S If you don't like reading a thread, don't read it, its called choice or has erdogan made you into a persistent internet warrior?

 

[KingWest]

Remember last year, the ISIS siege against Kobani, Turks tanks just sit idly while US airplanes pounding ISIS. Do you call that an ally?

Before posting ignorant comments about Kobani, search the internet and find out what Turkey did. Because truth is, that without Turkeys help, the Kurds woudve lost Kobani.