How I, a Punjabi, was brainwashed with anti-Pashtun bigotry. And how I unlearnt it

[Proudpakistaniguy]

What has PML N delivered except experimenting expensive toys in just one city of Lahore? PMLN has been ruling Punjab for decades directly or indirectly and have been in center for long, how Punjab is still behind a tiny nation of Bangladesh?

Don't get me wrong, but all these politicians are same crap, be it pmln, ppp, mqm, anp, etc. But most responsibility lies on pmln and ppp who have been ruling for decades and have only given corruption, deceits, chor bazari, etc and regional nationalism on top of it.

I am not supporter of PML(N) but i am saying that the logic which you are giving for Karachite to vote for MQM equally applicable to those who are voting for PML(N). Its all about perception . My personal perception is that they are all equally corrupt so it will not make any difference if you vote x or y because its game of throne where they will do anything to grab more power thats why Punjab is centre of attention for all parties be it PPP or PTI or PML(N)

 

[American Pakistani]

I am not supporter of PML(N) but i am saying that the logic which you are giving for Karachi to vote for MQM equally applicable to those who are voting for PML(N). Its all about perception . My personal perception is that they are all equally corrupt so it will not make any difference if you vote x or y because its game of throne where they will do anything to grab more power thats why Punjab is centre of attention for all parties be it PPP or PTI or PML(N)

That's what I'm trying to explain you. Mqm did not have control of budget as Sind's provincial govt was of PPP. Still with whatever mqm got, they spend everything to their ruling area that was Karachi. Irrespective of what ethnicities live where. For example, they did development in Clifton which houses mostly rich Punjabis and Sindhis, Banaras and Maymaar which had majority Pushtun population, etc etc. On the contrary Pmln focused on mostly one city ignoring the entire province, even when they had every resource in their hand, in the province and center. They failed to make the province compete Bangladesh. Same goes for PPP and Sindh.

I hope you will get my point because I don't wanna keep having this dialogue forever. I'm not supporter of any party including mqm.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

That's what I'm trying to explain you. Mqm did not have control of budget as Sind's provincial govt was of PPP. Still with whatever mqm got, they spend everything to their ruling area that was Karachi. Irrespective of what ethnicities live where. For example, they did development in Clifton which houses mostly rich Punjabis and Sindhis, Banaras and Maymaar which had majority Pushtun population, etc etc. On the contrary Pmln focused on mostly one city ignoring the entire province, even when they had every resource in their hand, in the province and center. They failed to make the province compete Bangladesh. Same goes for PPP and Sindh.

I hope you will get my point because I don't wanna keep having this dialogue forever. I'm not supporter of any party including mqm.

How MQM is is perceived by Karchite is not same as its being perceived by people outside Karachi . MQM or Alatf is rather known as traitor , target killers who is responsible of sponsoring terrorism and acting as agent of RAW but Karachi still have been voting for MQM irrespective of how others have been perceiving MQM or his head. Its same scenario in Punjab where PML(N) is popular no matter how Sindhi, Pahstun or balchi feel about it. You are saying that PMl(N) is just invetsing in Lahore by ignoring entire province yet still people vote for them in Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, sialkot ,lohdaaan, Hazara division of KPK which show that they dont feel same as you do . Others political parties can only change this by convincing people of Punjab that they are better option for them than PML(N). There is no other way

There is also so much propaganda of these political parties against each others as they often exaggerate flaws of others while hide their own shortcomings. You cannot label people of Punjab as Punjabi nationalist just because they dont vote as per your or my wishes

 

[lastofthepatriots]

We all know ur and ur familys professions but its nice to hear abt them all over again waisay bhi sirf "dalay" type kay khandanon kay logon ki aisi language hoti hai that u do all across the forum, I am sure during one of ur mujra performances someone lahori banged u, hence never ending ache LMAO

Poor Lahori mirasi child rapist. LoL

 

[The Diplomat]

Poor Lahori mirasi child rapist. LoL

@Ocean ignore this guy, his typing style shows how uneducated he really is. He has issues and can’t control them therefor has decided to choose a target and make them out to be monsters despite the fact that his claims are baseless and childish. The funny thing is that I’m not even old enough to vote and he’s more niave than me...

The use words like “dalla” shows his level of education and how he was brought up. Unlike your parents, my parents taught me respect and therefor won’t decent to your level. And enjoy going to your city in Pakistan after changing flights at Lahore Airport of course.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

@Ocean ignore this guy, his typing style shows how uneducated he really is. He has issues and can’t control them therefor has decided to choose a target and make them out to be monsters despite the fact that his claims are baseless and childish. The funny thing is that I’m not even old enough to vote and he’s more niave than me...

The use words like “dalla” shows his level of education and how he was brought up. Unlike your parents, my parents taught me respect and therefor won’t decent to your level. And enjoy going to your city in Pakistan after changing flights at Lahore Airport of course.

This guy has been abusing me since yesterday and refuses to agree to meet me somewhere. Now he stalks me so I have to say something to defend myself.

 

[Ocean]

@Ocean ignore this guy, his typing style shows how uneducated he really is. He has issues and can’t control them therefor has decided to choose a target and make them out to be monsters despite the fact that his claims are baseless and childish. The funny thing is that I’m not even old enough to vote and he’s more niave than me...

The use words like “dalla” shows his level of education and how he was brought up. Unlike your parents, my parents taught me respect and therefor won’t decent to your level. And enjoy going to your city in Pakistan after changing flights at Lahore Airport of course.

True extremely jahil and illiterate and a new trait which I was already familiar with but he repeated quite shamelessly in below post is lying.

People were discussing aerial firing being uncivilized behavior when done on wedding celebrations, this guy in his abnormal way began to pick on a poster calling people names
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fatal-shooting-at-a-pakistani-wedding.546937/page-6#post-10299686

And mind it people were discussing aerial firing on shadis and he had to go all attention seeking.
Anyways so i called him out on it and he went full punjabi galis mode with words like gandu , lahore da lora ,what his parents have taught him. Anyways we had argument and then some mod deleted those posts.
And btw i am not even a lahori but been seeing him abusing lahoris cause i am sure he was raped by one for long. With such character he has ,lying is a small thing.

So anyways, dafa karo.

 

[The Diplomat]

This guy has been abusing me since yesterday and refuses to agree to meet me somewhere. Now he stalks me so I have to say something to defend myself.

Ocean is not stupid like you, if you think he will meet you somewhere then you’re mistaken. Get some respect.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Ocean is not stupid like you, if you think he will meet you somewhere then you’re mistaken. Get some respect.

He's buzdil like you.

Typical Lahoris.

 

[The Diplomat]

He's buzdil like you.

Typical Lahoris.

Mate, buzdil? You got no contacts, you have nothing. The fact is the only reason your living in the US is because your claiming welfare from the government. You got no job, your life is in a downfall and to cover for that you tell random stangers to meet you some where to fight you. Lol you uneducated man, grow up your in your 40/50’s and you act childish.

Your not a spokesman for the Arain cast nor does the PDF community like you. You have several negative rating because your thought process is disgusting.

You can’t do sh!t, so stop acting big. Go claim benefits... I know your type.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Mate, buzdil? You got no contacts, you have nothing. The fact is the only reason your living in the US is because your claiming welfare from the government. You got no job, your life is in a downfall and to cover for that you tell random stangers to meet you some where to fight you. Lol you uneducated man, grow up your in your 40/50’s and you act childish.

Your not a spokesman for the Arain cast nor does the PDF community like you. You have several negative rating because your thought process is disgusting.

You can’t do sh!t, so stop acting big. Go claim benefits... I know your type.

You don't get benefits in the US.

Nice try. Poor Lahori mirasi, please don't molest children. I've heard about your grooming gangs in the UK as well. Leave the children alone.

 

[Ocean]

Mate, buzdil? You got no contacts, you have nothing. The fact is the only reason your living in the US is because your claiming welfare from the government. You got no job, your life is in a downfall and to cover for that you tell random stangers to meet you some where to fight you. Lol you uneducated man, grow up your in your 40/50’s and you act childish.

Your not a spokesman for the Arain cast nor does the PDF community like you. You have several negative rating because your thought process is disgusting.

You can’t do sh!t, so stop acting big. Go claim benefits... I know your type.

Yea the tough guy who wants to meet u in real life and beat u up, was two months back crying like a dumped hoe over a negative rating handed to him by a tta cause he was using super abusive language.

And itold u before since he mentions rapes ,lahoris, grooming gangs so often ,hints arent hard to pick he was raped by some lahori in uk so trauma is perpetual.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Pathans are the most patriotic Pakistanis.But unfortunately some namak haram afghan pashtuns are giving them a bad name.