How genetics is settling the Aryan migration debate (Aryan Invasion Theory is proven)

[faithfulguy]

Dude he never talked of invasion
It's just about mixture of Gene pool
Get a life

His findings suggest a likely invasion.

 

[kris]

His findings suggest a likely invasion.

Suggesting an invasion because people has immigrated into subcontinent isn't it
Few centuries down the line there will be genes of Africans in USA, does it make an invasion?

 

[StraightShooter]

His findings suggest a likely invasion.

You can read this thread to know the difference between invasions/massacres vs migration/assimilation.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/questions-about-hindus-under-mughal-empire.502260/

Bible says not Quran and it says other Abrahamic manipulated their books to suit their desires so not our Quran problem

Doesn't Islam also recognize Jesus as Isa ibn Maryam?

 

[takeiteasy]

Everyone including these Cow dung Sanghis knows that AIT is true. But, they are "Justification Coolies" of RSS; So, they'll "justify" OIT or any other propaganda by Hindu rightwing. India, if travelled all across, even a commoner can register that this is a country divided on race, castes, tribes, religions. The fairer, sharper people are concentrated on the north western corner. The high castes all across India looks caucasoid. The low castes looks more australoid. Proof is everywhere! But, Hindu unity (oops..RSS dream of taking over Hinduism) needs to blank out all these caste, linguistic, tribal differences so as to project all as Hindus. But, hard facts remains. India is a union of 40 or more countries. More like a more diverse version of European union. RSS imagining Brahmin-Highcaste rule of Gandhara to Burma and Kashmir to Kanyakumari is not happening.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

What a kind of Bullshit. I mean so Aryans who came were only mens? So that group had no women at all? Any kid can tell that this absolute "trying of bullshitting of theory"

 

[Vishwabalas]

What a kind of Bullshit. I mean so Aryans who came were only mens? So that group had no women at all? Any kid can tell that this absolute "trying of bullshitting of theory"

Apparently India was invaded by a bunch of horney men who had never seen a women in their entire lives

 

[khanmubashir]

You can read this thread to know the difference between invasions/massacres vs migration/assimilation.
Yup as prophet of God but we don't recognize him as his son as Christian manipulation of bib
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/questions-about-hindus-under-mughal-empire.502260/



Doesn't Islam also recognize Jesus as Isa ibn Maryam?

You can read this thread to know the difference between invasions/massacres vs migration/assimilation.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/questions-about-hindus-under-mughal-empire.502260/



Doesn't Islam also recognize Jesus as Isa ibn Maryam?

Yup as prophet of God but we don't recognize him as his son as Christian manipulation of Bible says

What a kind of Bullshit. I mean so Aryans who came were only mens? So that group had no women at all? Any kid can tell that this absolute "trying of bullshitting of theory"

It said mostly males and since time in memorial invading armies exploration parties mostly consist of men

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Yup as prophet of God but we don't recognize him as his son as Christian manipulation of Bible says


It said mostly males and since time in memorial invading armies exploration parties mostly consist of men

Aryan Invasion theory never said anything about armies. It says people migrated in bunch, and that was the theory which had been proven false beyond any doubts N number of times.

If a war had occured then there is no mention of wars in any vedas, (possibly the oldest historical records available) nor war sites nor destroyed cities. Most of the sites are intact without destruction. This is just one study which is a narrow source of information.
And trust me, I, being considered an Dravidian, should be the best person to support Aryan invasion theory. Cos political parties down south gain political mileage in that. But that's false from a lot of genetic studies done. Not one or two. But hundreads.

 

[Cthulhu]

RSS and Rightwing Hindutva pushed the Out of India theory which is farce. Many paid, fake studies are done by reputed Uni's to prove OIT. Till this day, there are fanatics who wants to enforce OIT and denying AIT.

Can you explain to me what RSS, OIT, and AIT stand for?

 

[faithfulguy]

Aryan Invasion theory never said anything about armies. It says people migrated in bunch, and that was the theory which had been proven false beyond any doubts N number of times.

If a war had occured then there is no mention of wars in any vedas, (possibly the oldest historical records available) nor war sites nor destroyed cities. Most of the sites are intact without destruction. This is just one study which is a narrow source of information.
And trust me, I, being considered an Dravidian, should be the best person to support Aryan invasion theory. Cos political parties down south gain political mileage in that. But that's false from a lot of genetic studies done. Not one or two. But hundreads.

The latest study now point to AIT as scientific fact based on Y chromosome investigation. So the Aryan invaders were mostly males as 18% of all Indian males can trace their genetic marker to the Aryan invaders. This is iron clad scientific proof of Aryan invasion. So Aryan invasion is no longer a theory, it has been proven as a scientific fact. Conclusions from all previous studies are now invalidated by this study as this one deal with Y chromosome genetic marker.

 

[Zen0]

Suggesting an invasion because people has immigrated into subcontinent isn't it
Few centuries down the line there will be genes of Africans in USA, does it make an invasion?

Marx was full of shit , he stated the invasion theory based on a mass grave with damaged skeletons near iran . Modern fossil dating have now revealed they didn't even belong to the same timeline and the damaged skeletons were a result of errosion , not war.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

We always knew that Aryans are native to India unlike European theory.





Its true only for Sindh and FATA. Those claim to be Arab and Central Asians.

R1a and H are two predominant chromosomes among general Indians. While most of them are mixed but R1a is mainly found in North and H in South. and Few O2a among the tribals of eastern India.

Lmao.

Asshole, Sindhis are proud people and their state (country) has survived countless "invasion" unlike whichever orifice you pop out of.

What does a garlic curry know ability Fata? Other than getting ruled by the Pashtuns?

Say that crap in front of one and he will kick your rear in.

 

[Mian Babban]

Perhaps Germans, Europeans and racist Whites are on the minds of Indians when they are so eager to dismiss Aryan invasion theory. May be some Goras were making fun of skin colour , looks and heights of Indians and the latter went into inferiority complex and tried to re-write history. Europeans and other westerns have stolen the concept and word of "Caucasoid" from Caucasus region of Asia and i am sure they will laugh and dismiss any true Caucasian (inhabitant of Caucasus) as genuine Caucasian. They have nothing to do with Caucasus and its races yet they are calling themselves Caucasoid race. Iranians with big noses have highest Caucasoid ancestry outside Caucasus and yet they will be called "Sand Niggers" by some stupid American. The concept that Aryan means Blue-eyed and blonde haired Germanic and Nordic person, is relatively recent European fabrication and i am sure they have stolen this concept from India and Persia. Even ancient Greek historians refer to present-day Afghanistan as Aryana so the concept of Aryan people existed back then.

 

[takeiteasy]

Can you explain to me what RSS, OIT, and AIT stand for?

Even for a foreigner's amateur eye, India looks diverse. If you travel across, Some of the population are fair, tall, sharp and largely built, while most of the population are the Brown/Dark people with loose facial features and varying build. Then there are the Mongoloid mixture in the north eastern side. A sample of all these can be seen in most Indian cities. If you look at Persia or Afghanistan or Arabia, this much diversity is no where to be seen. The underlying reason is Aryan Invasion of Indian Subcontinent.

Aryans are aggressive, are more innovative, intelligent race who dispersed the local aboriginals who are Australoids or Mundas and (if any) tribes and also mixed with them. The Indian society is imposed caste system by the Cacausian invaders who came here and created own population which today may be called as Forward Castes (Brahmins, Kshatriyas etc). And then there are the Scheduled Castes/Tribes (SC/ST). The lower the caste, there is less similarity to a North Indian Brahmin or other high castes (generally Cacausian in skull taxonomy.). Hindus got organized by Hindu Maha Sabha and later RSS who are virulent Hindutva (terror) activists who wants to cull the low castes, Muslims and Christians to pave the foundation of Hindu Rashtra. For this, at the earlier stages, they need Hindu unity and merging of diverse varieties of Hinduism practised in India to RSS unitary North Indian version. Thus, they funded a fake theory of "Out of India" origin. This is so wrong as is evident from DNA researches, as well as "Common sense".

RSS - Rashtriya Swayam Sevak Sangh - A Hindu Fascist Extremist organization which is presently ruling India inspired from Nazism, Fascism and Islam. http://www.stopfundinghate.org/resources/rssprimer.htm

AIT - Aryan Invasion Theory http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-aryan-invasion-was-not-fantasy/
OIT - Out of India Theory - RSS/Rightwing Hindu funded propaganda. In fact, Search engines are even optimized to churn out in support of OIT and claim AIT as bogus..The sites like http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/aryan/aryan_agrawal.html https://arisebharat.com/2008/01/21/bbc-accepts-that-the-aryan-invasion-theory-is-flawed/ shows that these are all RSS rightwing Hindu extremists who are doing justifications. They're even successful in bribing reputed British universities to publish in favor of OIT.

 

[takeiteasy]

India has banned Wendy Doniger's books IINM. It sheds some light into India's history without the right leaning as is otherwise found on books by Indian authors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hindus:_An_Alternative_History