How flawed is India's foreign policy that China is threatening war with us?

[SQ8]

What exactly is that cost that leave Indian diplomats red faced over Namo?

Beef,, lots of beef.

 

[Dash]

Imagine if the opposite had happened; the original educated lot of aligarh and internal UP/Punjab/Sindh had guided Pakistan along with Jinnah till the mid 50's. This would be a different nation entirely. It is that legacy of Nehru and the early educated congress leadership that led to the entrenchment of the already established ICS into a useful institution that kept India "guided" for a while

As Maharajakrisha Rasgotra says during the days when Vijayalaksmi Pandit was UN geernal secretary and S Radhakrishan was singing USSR at the very same time? we have our own flaws too. As many Indians still dont know that Nehru followed Vedantna philosophy.

to NaMo's credit he is but at what cost? What hatred is he willing to inculcate and brew in his quest to remain popular and in power?

We cant attribute that to NM ad wash our hands off, there is history of baggage from others too that has imbibed such outrage in terms of everything. I cn vouch that many Indians out here would vote for Pranab Mukherkee as PM but the political situations were not as such!!

That is the question that has to be asked. Both from within and outside.. if India truly wants to be what is claims to aspire to be.

its just a passing stage

 

[ranjeet]

Beef,, lots of beef.

I hope that's not metaphorical because Congress did much more against Cow slaughter than BJP could ever do.

 

[Dash]

What exactly is that cost that leave Indian diplomats red faced over Namo?

CPM

 

[ranjeet]

CPM

What's that?

We cant attribute that to NM ad wash our hands off, there is history of baggage from others too that has imbibed such outrage in terms of everything. I cn vouch that many Indians out here would vote for Pranab Mukherkee as PM but the political situations were not as such!!

What history of baggage are you talking about? There is none and never was.

 

[Dash]

What's that?

yechuri?

 

[ranjeet]

yechuri?

What did he do now?

 

[SQ8]

As Maharajakrisha Rasgotra says during the days when Vijayalaksmi Pandit was UN geernal secretary and S Radhakrishan was singing USSR at the very same time? we have our own flaws too. As many Indians still dont know that Nehru followed Vedantna philosophy.



We cant attribute that to NM ad wash our hands off, there is history of baggage from others too that has imbibed such outrage in terms of everything. I cn vouch that many Indians out here would vote for Pranab Mukherkee as PM but the political situations were not as such!!



its just a passing stage

Those were alignment times; India had to pick a side seeing how Pakistan was, but the more we dig into each sides domestic and international policies we will find things to nitpick on. What matters is social policies and how they reflect onto national character, that has changed within India(the entire world for that matter) dramatically due to social media. Everyone has an opinion that is not always fair and accurate but it can be viral because humans in general prefer simpler explanations for things.

As I mentioned, the "common" Indian Hindu and by that I mean the daily get in their car/bike go to work middle class is now divided as either quiet "keep my head down" folks, Modi "makes me my money" category and the more bigoted and hateful recently Bhakt converts; what they dont realize is that both the latter two categories are marginalizing the other communities in ways not yet understood to themselves because in their view what they asking is their fair "underrepresented majority" economic right. If it comes via an excess of religious ego and bluster so be it. What they do not realize is that in the longer run every Indian was in the same economic boat including those left behind due to caste or communal issues. By focusing on one majority or rather blowing them up in a fake focus of policies you are creating issues within what is still a sizable minority (200 mil at the least with every other religion combined I think).

incidents like Gujrat or the train burning, or Babri masjid leave a bad taste but they did not matter in daily lives, now however with an ever greater majority of Indian Hindu extremists posting anti-Islam or other extreme messages on facebook and people from minorities seeing their erstwhile "normal" friends liking these posts is leading to a day by day increase in chasm that will sooner or later spill over.
This spill over will let people from countries hostile to India or just plain non-state nutjobs exploit this chasm to create more social and security issues.

This is what is amiss in the minds of those that control India, as long as you hated Pakistan as some bothersome singular extremist entity and took it on as India..India of Amar, Akbar & anthony.. who were always going to come out on top; take it on as Yogi Amarnath of Akhand Bharat however and you are screwing yourself both inside and out.

 

[Dash]

What's that?



What history of baggage are you talking about? There is none and never was.

PV Rao, then Mamohan Singh.....Congress

 

[SQ8]

I hope that's not metaphorical because Congress did much more against Cow slaughter than BJP could ever do.

Doing more and publishing it as a the core issue are two different things.
Congress tried to play a balancing rope against everyone, BJP is focusing on only one hateful exploitation of the Indian communal majority..

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@Dash @ranjeet

India was never an extremist country nor it will be

It is not in the nature of Hindus to be extremist

We have more than enough checks and balances in our society
and country to prevent that from happening

The only difference is that Hindus have become More assertive
and where necessary ; aggressive

And That has happened because of Pure Muslim appeasement politics
followed by Congressi goons

What I find amazing is that ALL the narrative and complaints of India
and Hindus becoming Extremists come from only one country

We have also clamped down on the Christian missionaries and NGOs

But the West does not complain at all

 

[ranjeet]

Doing more and publishing it as a the core issue are two different things.
Congress tried to play a balancing rope against everyone, BJP is focusing on only one hateful exploitation of the Indian communal majority..

There was no need for balancing act to begin with, people who stayed back in India stayed back for an inclusive culture. This shouldn't have been a problem to begin with had each community respected sentiments of others.

 

[SQ8]

There was no need for balancing act to begin with, people who stayed back in India stayed back for an inclusive culture. This shouldn't have been a problem to begin with had each community respected sentiments of others.

You just demonstrated exactly what I was taking about . The "majority" privilege that is pushing the extremism within India.

 

[ranjeet]

@Dash @ranjeet

India was never an extremist country nor it will be

It is not in the nature of Hindus to be extremist

We have more than enough checks and balances in our society
and country to prevent that from happening

The only difference is that Hindus have become More assertive
and where necessary ; aggressive

And That has happened because of Pure Muslim appeasement politics
followed by Congressi goons

What I find amazing is that ALL the narrative and complaints of India
and Hindus becoming Extremists come from only one country

We have also clamped down on the Christian missionaries and NGOs

But the West does not complain at all

I don't remember India being aggressive? What I remember is that we being docile or ever ready to take the guilt trip. Heck Muslims all over world feel pain for Al Qqsa but when hindus tried to reclaim the Ram janam bhoomi we had faggots shouting out we must build a hospital there and whatnot.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

There was no need for balancing act to begin with, people who stayed back in India stayed back for an inclusive culture. This shouldn't have been a problem to begin with had each community respected sentiments of others.

I dont know how more Tolerant can Hindus be or are expected to be

The Rights enjoyed by Indian Muslims are not even available in
Muslim majority countries like for example the Triple talaq ; Nikah halala
which the AIMPLB is so very possesive about

Similarly the Babri case has been hanging for 25 years in courts
WITHOUT the Hindus getting agitated about it

That is Tolerance and patience at its very BEST