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How do you Chinese view the rapid development of the past 35 years?
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China has made some amazing developments. My personal favorites are the man made islands in the south China sea; the space program; 5g; aviation; high speed rail; and AI.
It is rather unfortunate that China has not been able to develop the following things- motherboards, hard drives, CPU (to rival AMD, Intel), operating systems (to rival windows), web browser (to rival firefox, chrome). As users of computers, I think it is always better to have more alternatives, especially when there are known problems with ie/chrome's ssl errors.
Overall, I can see why many people don't really see the past 40 yrs as development, and especially a lot of the older Chinese who were able to compare the old China with the new one. Sure, China has advanced in some ways, but has actually moved backwards in many others, especially with morals, security, and social programs.
As one Chinese man born in '49 told me, each year was worse than the last since '78. What you see in China is an exchange. China is exchanging honesty, and safety for high rises, and gold chains. During the comunist era, workers and peasants were held to a pedestal. Today, they are marginalized. Now the spotlight is on the bourgeoisie, and they've become the new celebrated stars. Naturally, if I was a worker, or peasant (who are the majority), I would not feel the development. Instead, I would prefer the past. Even as late as 1983, businessmen were required to eat with farmers in order to "invest" in China. But with each year after that, things got worse. The bourgeoisie became more and more wreckless.
A small group of people in China have gotten rich, but for the majority of the people, their lives probably got worse as a result of the reforms. In the 60's, Chinese people were honest. If you lost something, whoever found it would probably return it to you. There was no crime, polution, or coruption. People for the most part, trusted each other. What you ate was organic. There was no problem with food safety. By the 70's, China's policies have shifted to cater to the bourgeoisie, at the expense of the proletariat, however, people didn't feel it yet. Even if you didn't feel it in the 70's, you certainly felt when '80 rolled around. Fast fwd 35yrs later, and all of those problems (coruption, polution, crime) mentioned have become widespread. The people are materialistic. Evil people are being rewarded, and getting rich. And China as a whole has became less united. People no longer trust each other. Society is breaking down. This is why they are trying to bring back Daoism, and Budism, because the people have gotten so out of control (compared with the 60's). Anyone who rides the subway today in China can see how degenerated China has become when they see security checkpoints at every single station. Security checkpoints were something that was unecesary in Beijing's subway in 1969, because people acted civilized. This is the reality that very few people want to talk about, but if you press most older Chinese on this, they will tell you exactly what I am telling you. Even those on the far right will admit that people's morals have declined in the past 35yrs. Another thing I noticed was that Chinese people were healthier in the 70's than they are today. Even when you look at some of the old Chinese, they appear to be healthier, and stronger than the young ones. After China's reforms, a lot of diseases that were'nt around, suddenly became a problem. Illnesses like diabetes, cancer, heart disease, and depression became a problem after the reforms of '78 took place. We can assume that the lifestyles, pollution, and food quality all had something to do with it. What we can gather is that Chinese lifestyles became less healthy after '78. It was like people went back to the pre liberation era, back to gambling, getting drunk, and other illicit activities. Today, you have few opium smokers. Instead, you have people addicted to their cell phones.
Another thing that went in reverse development were the social programs. During the 70's, the goverment gave a lot of assistance to people who needed it. For example, the goverment would take care of the handicapped. Education was mostly free. However, Deng's reforms eliminated these programs, and no one has brought them back. Something people hardly talk about is that one of the main reasons so many students came out to protest in '89 was because Deng began to charge money for tuition.
Not only did the reforms take away social programs, but a lot of people became unemployed when Deng privatized industry. During the early 70's, China had no homeless population, however, after the reforms, people lost their job security, and people became homeless as a result. In the early 70's, it would not be uncommon for goverment officials to go into villages to motivate people to work. However, today, the goverment officials and the people are very far away in their lifestyles. Today, it is every man for himself. That's why it's no surprise that the goverment itself receives much less public support today than it did in 1966.
Kapitalism also splits families up. Dengs reforms forced a lot of villagers to move into the cities to look for jobs. Many parents would be away from their home town most of the year, and only go back to see their kids for holidays. Often times, husbands and wives would now work in different cities. The instability that kapitalism brought also forced people to frequently look for new jobs as jobs were now uncertain, and not permanent. Employers are also able to get away with not paying its workers, something that would have been strictly enforced in the 70's.
One thing we must also remember is that the primary beneficiaries of China's reforms is not China, but the west. The rich Chinese are almost all buying foreign products exclusively. They look down upon China. So what China is doing is allowing a small group of people to get rich, a group who hates China. How can you go right with a plan like that? 33% of rich Chinese are either planning to, or already have emigrated abroad. Needless to say, all their money goes abroad too. Something else that is disturbing too, is how China lends trillions of dollars to foreign countries, with all the money that China makes. Not only that, rich Chinese, after making money off other Chinese people, are spending their money abroad. They send their kids to western countries to be "educated", vacation in the west, and invest their money there. After 35 yrs, China still is only allowed to export cheap goods to the west, while importing very expensive goods from the west. Even sneakers like Lining (not very expensive) are banned in the west. Volkswagon, Renault, and Ford are all allowed to sell in China, but Chinese cars are banned in the west.
With all that, China has also become much weaker as a result. There's no doubt that China's weapons have developed well. There's no doubt that even the most radical inperialist will admit the high quality of China's arsenal. However, weapons aren't everything. Power comes in many forms. Although China has very advanced guns, China falls behind on soft power. What you must understand is, as part of the reforms, China had given up its role as a world leader. The first generation of leaders set up all the proper chess pieces for China to become a world leader, only to have Deng, and Ye throw it all away. Today's China has become so weak that it has to assure the "international community" that it doesn't interfere, nor does it seek to be a world leader. Contrast this with China in '66, and the third world was looking at China as their new leader. China took the charge in world politics, and was unafraid to be the only challenger to the west at the time. You can actually look up archived copies of the Beijing Weekly, and see how assertive China used to be in its criticism towards the west. I don't know if old recordings of CRI are still out there, but the CRI was also very critical of the west back in the 60's, similarly to how the west is critical of China. CRI and Beijing Weekly made it clear to the world what their positions were, and who they supported. However, when '78 came around, China surrendered, and gave up its influence around the world, and decided to accomodate the west. If you read the Chinese newspapers today, such as the Global Times, you hardly see any criticism of the west. CRI usually has nothing bad to say about the west. Instead of liberating Taiwan, China was now willing to accept whatever the US proposed as long as TW doesn't officially declare independence. What's worse is when you hear the Chinese media actually praise of the west. Instead of being a leader, China was now a follower. This is why you never really saw any peasant uprisings around the world after the late 70's. Most people have forgotten, but there once was a time when China was not scared to back an anti western riots in Singapore. China had huge networks of pro Chinese fighters, and leaders from Peru, all the way to Ethiopia, and back again. Of all the rejime changes in the past 35 years, it seems that most of them have been pro western in nature (ie USSR, Ukraine, Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Yemen, El Salvador) to name a few.
Today, very few fighters, or leaders pledge allegiance to China. Even Chinese people themselves are disloyal to China. Go to Hong Kong, and see how many pro Chinese people you can find. Today's HK populace is staunchly pro western, and anti Chinese. Let me put it to you this way. In 1967, Hongers rioted against the British for China. In 2014, Hongers rioted against China for the west. What does that tell you? One thing's for sure, although China has stopped backing anti western movements, the west has never stopped backing anti Chinese movements. This is one reason why the west today, solidly has an upper hand. In this sense, today's China is only a shadow of its former self. Take a look at Malaysia for example, where China was recently squeezed out. China has also lost other long time allies such as Sri Lanka, and Myanmar, both of whom had been Chinese allies since their liberation. But it's not just losing allies, because you can be sure that any ally China loses automatically becomes a US ally. Malaysia, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar all fit that profile. In Taiwan, Beijing is also being squeezed out. Taiwan president Cai Yingwen recently said, we must join hands with the international community against China. It should also come as no surprise that Cai is also a huge supporter of the west. In the past 35 years, China has made next to no gains in acquiring allies, losing more allies than gain. As far as most know, China, in the past 35yrs has gained the Philipines as an ally, but lost Malaysia, Vietnam, Myanmar, South Sudan, Albania, and Romania. On the other hand, the US has swallowed half of the USSR; Vietnam; Myanmar, Malaysia, Sri Lanka; and South Sudan, in addition to the rejime changes in Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Yemen, El Salvador.
What good is development if you can't influence the world? China has not been able to push its agenda internationally. We all know that China would like for the world to recognize Taiwan, and Hong Kong as being part of China, but the majority of the world still sees Taiwan as a country. Even businesses in countries perceived to have been a Chinese ally such as Malaysia list Taiwan as being a separate country from China. Most people in the international community even perceive Hong Kong as being a separate country despite official recognition of HK as China.
It is rather unfortunate that China has not been able to develop the following things- motherboards, hard drives, CPU (to rival AMD, Intel), operating systems (to rival windows), web browser (to rival firefox, chrome). As users of computers, I think it is always better to have more alternatives, especially when there are known problems with ie/chrome's ssl errors.
Overall, I can see why many people don't really see the past 40 yrs as development, and especially a lot of the older Chinese who were able to compare the old China with the new one. Sure, China has advanced in some ways, but has actually moved backwards in many others, especially with morals, security, and social programs.
As one Chinese man born in '49 told me, each year was worse than the last since '78. What you see in China is an exchange. China is exchanging honesty, and safety for high rises, and gold chains. During the comunist era, workers and peasants were held to a pedestal. Today, they are marginalized. Now the spotlight is on the bourgeoisie, and they've become the new celebrated stars. Naturally, if I was a worker, or peasant (who are the majority), I would not feel the development. Instead, I would prefer the past. Even as late as 1983, businessmen were required to eat with farmers in order to "invest" in China. But with each year after that, things got worse. The bourgeoisie became more and more wreckless.
A small group of people in China have gotten rich, but for the majority of the people, their lives probably got worse as a result of the reforms. In the 60's, Chinese people were honest. If you lost something, whoever found it would probably return it to you. There was no crime, polution, or coruption. People for the most part, trusted each other. What you ate was organic. There was no problem with food safety. By the 70's, China's policies have shifted to cater to the bourgeoisie, at the expense of the proletariat, however, people didn't feel it yet. Even if you didn't feel it in the 70's, you certainly felt when '80 rolled around. Fast fwd 35yrs later, and all of those problems (coruption, polution, crime) mentioned have become widespread. The people are materialistic. Evil people are being rewarded, and getting rich. And China as a whole has became less united. People no longer trust each other. Society is breaking down. This is why they are trying to bring back Daoism, and Budism, because the people have gotten so out of control (compared with the 60's). Anyone who rides the subway today in China can see how degenerated China has become when they see security checkpoints at every single station. Security checkpoints were something that was unecesary in Beijing's subway in 1969, because people acted civilized. This is the reality that very few people want to talk about, but if you press most older Chinese on this, they will tell you exactly what I am telling you. Even those on the far right will admit that people's morals have declined in the past 35yrs. Another thing I noticed was that Chinese people were healthier in the 70's than they are today. Even when you look at some of the old Chinese, they appear to be healthier, and stronger than the young ones. After China's reforms, a lot of diseases that were'nt around, suddenly became a problem. Illnesses like diabetes, cancer, heart disease, and depression became a problem after the reforms of '78 took place. We can assume that the lifestyles, pollution, and food quality all had something to do with it. What we can gather is that Chinese lifestyles became less healthy after '78. It was like people went back to the pre liberation era, back to gambling, getting drunk, and other illicit activities. Today, you have few opium smokers. Instead, you have people addicted to their cell phones.
Another thing that went in reverse development were the social programs. During the 70's, the goverment gave a lot of assistance to people who needed it. For example, the goverment would take care of the handicapped. Education was mostly free. However, Deng's reforms eliminated these programs, and no one has brought them back. Something people hardly talk about is that one of the main reasons so many students came out to protest in '89 was because Deng began to charge money for tuition.
Not only did the reforms take away social programs, but a lot of people became unemployed when Deng privatized industry. During the early 70's, China had no homeless population, however, after the reforms, people lost their job security, and people became homeless as a result. In the early 70's, it would not be uncommon for goverment officials to go into villages to motivate people to work. However, today, the goverment officials and the people are very far away in their lifestyles. Today, it is every man for himself. That's why it's no surprise that the goverment itself receives much less public support today than it did in 1966.
Kapitalism also splits families up. Dengs reforms forced a lot of villagers to move into the cities to look for jobs. Many parents would be away from their home town most of the year, and only go back to see their kids for holidays. Often times, husbands and wives would now work in different cities. The instability that kapitalism brought also forced people to frequently look for new jobs as jobs were now uncertain, and not permanent. Employers are also able to get away with not paying its workers, something that would have been strictly enforced in the 70's.
One thing we must also remember is that the primary beneficiaries of China's reforms is not China, but the west. The rich Chinese are almost all buying foreign products exclusively. They look down upon China. So what China is doing is allowing a small group of people to get rich, a group who hates China. How can you go right with a plan like that? 33% of rich Chinese are either planning to, or already have emigrated abroad. Needless to say, all their money goes abroad too. Something else that is disturbing too, is how China lends trillions of dollars to foreign countries, with all the money that China makes. Not only that, rich Chinese, after making money off other Chinese people, are spending their money abroad. They send their kids to western countries to be "educated", vacation in the west, and invest their money there. After 35 yrs, China still is only allowed to export cheap goods to the west, while importing very expensive goods from the west. Even sneakers like Lining (not very expensive) are banned in the west. Volkswagon, Renault, and Ford are all allowed to sell in China, but Chinese cars are banned in the west.
With all that, China has also become much weaker as a result. There's no doubt that China's weapons have developed well. There's no doubt that even the most radical inperialist will admit the high quality of China's arsenal. However, weapons aren't everything. Power comes in many forms. Although China has very advanced guns, China falls behind on soft power. What you must understand is, as part of the reforms, China had given up its role as a world leader. The first generation of leaders set up all the proper chess pieces for China to become a world leader, only to have Deng, and Ye throw it all away. Today's China has become so weak that it has to assure the "international community" that it doesn't interfere, nor does it seek to be a world leader. Contrast this with China in '66, and the third world was looking at China as their new leader. China took the charge in world politics, and was unafraid to be the only challenger to the west at the time. You can actually look up archived copies of the Beijing Weekly, and see how assertive China used to be in its criticism towards the west. I don't know if old recordings of CRI are still out there, but the CRI was also very critical of the west back in the 60's, similarly to how the west is critical of China. CRI and Beijing Weekly made it clear to the world what their positions were, and who they supported. However, when '78 came around, China surrendered, and gave up its influence around the world, and decided to accomodate the west. If you read the Chinese newspapers today, such as the Global Times, you hardly see any criticism of the west. CRI usually has nothing bad to say about the west. Instead of liberating Taiwan, China was now willing to accept whatever the US proposed as long as TW doesn't officially declare independence. What's worse is when you hear the Chinese media actually praise of the west. Instead of being a leader, China was now a follower. This is why you never really saw any peasant uprisings around the world after the late 70's. Most people have forgotten, but there once was a time when China was not scared to back an anti western riots in Singapore. China had huge networks of pro Chinese fighters, and leaders from Peru, all the way to Ethiopia, and back again. Of all the rejime changes in the past 35 years, it seems that most of them have been pro western in nature (ie USSR, Ukraine, Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Yemen, El Salvador) to name a few.
Today, very few fighters, or leaders pledge allegiance to China. Even Chinese people themselves are disloyal to China. Go to Hong Kong, and see how many pro Chinese people you can find. Today's HK populace is staunchly pro western, and anti Chinese. Let me put it to you this way. In 1967, Hongers rioted against the British for China. In 2014, Hongers rioted against China for the west. What does that tell you? One thing's for sure, although China has stopped backing anti western movements, the west has never stopped backing anti Chinese movements. This is one reason why the west today, solidly has an upper hand. In this sense, today's China is only a shadow of its former self. Take a look at Malaysia for example, where China was recently squeezed out. China has also lost other long time allies such as Sri Lanka, and Myanmar, both of whom had been Chinese allies since their liberation. But it's not just losing allies, because you can be sure that any ally China loses automatically becomes a US ally. Malaysia, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar all fit that profile. In Taiwan, Beijing is also being squeezed out. Taiwan president Cai Yingwen recently said, we must join hands with the international community against China. It should also come as no surprise that Cai is also a huge supporter of the west. In the past 35 years, China has made next to no gains in acquiring allies, losing more allies than gain. As far as most know, China, in the past 35yrs has gained the Philipines as an ally, but lost Malaysia, Vietnam, Myanmar, South Sudan, Albania, and Romania. On the other hand, the US has swallowed half of the USSR; Vietnam; Myanmar, Malaysia, Sri Lanka; and South Sudan, in addition to the rejime changes in Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Yemen, El Salvador.
What good is development if you can't influence the world? China has not been able to push its agenda internationally. We all know that China would like for the world to recognize Taiwan, and Hong Kong as being part of China, but the majority of the world still sees Taiwan as a country. Even businesses in countries perceived to have been a Chinese ally such as Malaysia list Taiwan as being a separate country from China. Most people in the international community even perceive Hong Kong as being a separate country despite official recognition of HK as China.
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This is an overstatement, generally about 1/3 pro China and a little more than 1/3 dissatisfied with China, the rest are apolitical or just neutral. One thing you have to remember those who are dissatisfied with China doesn't mean they are against China, mostly they just don't like some of policies from China. Only few of them are actually pro-independence or as you said anti China. If you pay attention to the protests that organized by the pro-western camp, actually their numbers is very small and is decreasing each year.
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When I say anti Chinese, I don't mean pro independence. In fact, there are a lot of people who hate China who don't support independence, nor do they have an opinion on it. Most of the anti Chinese hate has been around since the British era, and they are used to hating China. Hongers can also be anti Chinese without knowing anything about Chinese policies. There are many Hongers who simply look down on China, and have no political knowledge whatsoever. There's also lots of Hongers who refuse to buy Chinese brands; use Chinese services such as Wechat; visit Chinese websites; go on vacation to the mainland; and associate with mainlanders. It's these same haters who hate simplified Chinese just because mainlanders use it. These same Hongers are usually very enthusiastic about using Whatsapp, Google, go on vacation to Japan, and love talking to foreigners. I was talking to one Honger. He said a mainlander went up to him asking for directions in Mandarin. He purposely gave the mainlander wrong directions because he was a mainlander. He has never once advocated indpendence, nor has he ever brought up Chinese policy (most likely because he doesn't know any policies). Now that's the kind of anti Chinese people you got in HK. Again, a lot of them don't have any political opinion, but they love bashing China. They're the ones who hype up how mainlanders spit on the floor, or urinate on the street. You even saw Hongers on Youku fighting with mainlanders for eating in the subway. They complain about mainlanders giving birth in HK simply because Google told them to. Many of these Hongers who love to criticise China actually work on the mainland, and make lots of money from the country they hate. One Honger is so disgustted with the mainland, he works in Shenzhen, but lives in HK, which sounds ridiculous because the rent is cheaper in Shenzhen, and it's a huge hassle to commute, but he does it. He probably spends 4hrs a day comuting, all to avoid living in Shenzhen. Mind you, he is also living in a smaller, and lower quality apartment, compared with what he would get in Shenzhen for the same price. Another guy who is an HK Christian works for the city of HK while hating China. I mention Christian because the Christian church is openly promoting anti Chinese ideas in HK, and abroad. He said "he refuses to use any Chinese software like Wechat". He is also one of those people who are Google enthusiasts. He even has a Google phone. Then we have another Honger, who said that Hong Kong was better off under British rule. There are actually many Hongers who make this claim. This claim doesn't mean HK was actually better under British rule, but it does demonstrate one important thing, that the west still control the minds of the Hongers, despite the perceived departure of inperialism, and also that China has failed to gain the loyalty of Hongers after 21 years. This is why the one country two systems is a failure. Here we are, 21 years on, and Hongers can't even speak Mandarin. Can you imagine that? There are Kazaks who speak better Mandarin than Hongers. What a shame. The mismanagement of HK is not a big deal by itself, but what is a big deal is how the world perceives China when China can't even influence its own people. When the Taiwanese look at HK, and see the amount of disent, why would they want to return to China? After all, who wants to follow a weak leader who is pushed around by the west? One of the reasons why Mao was so popular domestically and internationally was his perceived ability to stand up to inperialists. This is why he had followers from Peru to India and back again. People, like animals, want to get behind a leader who is fearless, not a leader who is more concerned about accomodating foreigners ahead of their own people.
Deng had in mind that if he became a kapitalist, HK, and TW would automatically want to be part of China. Well, he was wrong. Give benefits, and handouts to Hongers, and Taiwanese, and they'll still hate you. That's the lesson learned here. On the other hand, you got countries like Japan, who do nothing but take from HK/TW, yet the Japanese are loved in HK/TW. Deng gained the support of a handful of HK/TW oligarks, but the populace, by and large is anti Chinese. The moral of the story here isn't what's anti Chinese, or how many Hongers are anti Chinese. The moral of the story is, the mainland, or Deng dynasty, has failed at winning the hearts and minds of Hongers. One man's failure is another man's success. While China fails at soft power, the US has succeeded at directing HK/TW anger towards China. As the US makes obvious gains, China has no plan for any offensive strategy, and goes back to "non interference" policy over and over again. Whenever I bring this subject up with people who are pro Deng dynasty, they say it takes time. HK has been returned for 21 yrs now. Let me give you an idea of what Mao was able to do in that time. In half that time, Mao was able to rehabilitate some of the most radical, and reactionary Japanese generals, diehard KMT generals who had lived their entire lives as wreckless human beings, and even Puyi himself. Yes ladies, and gentlemen. Mao rehabiliated Puyi, the last emperor of China. By 1959, Puyi was literally reciting Marxist theory. Yet Deng+Jiang+Hu+Xi has not been able to neutralize a bunch of petty bourgeoisie Hongers. Not only that, you have TW drifting further and further away by the day. When you make the comparison between Puyi, and your average Honger, the "development", or lack of it, is obvious. More was achieved from 1966-1976 than 1978-2018.
Deng had in mind that if he became a kapitalist, HK, and TW would automatically want to be part of China. Well, he was wrong. Give benefits, and handouts to Hongers, and Taiwanese, and they'll still hate you. That's the lesson learned here. On the other hand, you got countries like Japan, who do nothing but take from HK/TW, yet the Japanese are loved in HK/TW. Deng gained the support of a handful of HK/TW oligarks, but the populace, by and large is anti Chinese. The moral of the story here isn't what's anti Chinese, or how many Hongers are anti Chinese. The moral of the story is, the mainland, or Deng dynasty, has failed at winning the hearts and minds of Hongers. One man's failure is another man's success. While China fails at soft power, the US has succeeded at directing HK/TW anger towards China. As the US makes obvious gains, China has no plan for any offensive strategy, and goes back to "non interference" policy over and over again. Whenever I bring this subject up with people who are pro Deng dynasty, they say it takes time. HK has been returned for 21 yrs now. Let me give you an idea of what Mao was able to do in that time. In half that time, Mao was able to rehabilitate some of the most radical, and reactionary Japanese generals, diehard KMT generals who had lived their entire lives as wreckless human beings, and even Puyi himself. Yes ladies, and gentlemen. Mao rehabiliated Puyi, the last emperor of China. By 1959, Puyi was literally reciting Marxist theory. Yet Deng+Jiang+Hu+Xi has not been able to neutralize a bunch of petty bourgeoisie Hongers. Not only that, you have TW drifting further and further away by the day. When you make the comparison between Puyi, and your average Honger, the "development", or lack of it, is obvious. More was achieved from 1966-1976 than 1978-2018.
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Rapid development counts for nothing unless there is a commensurate improvement in the rule of law, human rights, democracy & freedom of press, and a general predisposition for the government to act on behalf of its people rather than its own members. So far, none of those have come to fruition. There continues to be ever-tightening oppression of the press and individuals, unchecked growth of power for politicians, scant or even nonexistent regulations for companies that the state supports, empty promises & outright lying, and with that the ever-decreasing faith of the Chinese people.
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Rapid rise of china is a rare event in world history. China deserves all credit for that.
Just found this list. China still has a lot of work to do.
One of the key reasons why the west leads China is because the west is strong in soft power, while China is weak. One of the known examples in which the west is able to turn the general public against China is by hyping up China's competitiveness. If a Chinese company comes into town, the western media hypes up the Chinese threat, claiming that it would put the west at a disadvantage. The logic then becomes, you should hate China because they are competing against local companies. On the other hand, China does not try to hype up western threats. In fact, the Chinese media never plays that card. You would not find China trying to turn the public against Americans because Iphones compete with Huawei. China is also unable to turn European against Americans using this same logic, and theory. Realistically speaking, you can see how the entrance of Amazon into the European market directly affects European websites trying to do the same thing. Now if China was indeed rapidly developed, China could, and would go into Europe, and hype up the fact that Amazon is threatening European e-commerce sites, and turn the European public against America, but obviously this isn't happening, hasn't happened, and is unlikely to happen. These tactics can not only turn the European public against America, but can also limit the activity of American companies in Europe, (leading to reduced political influence) and allow China to expand its interests in Europe. However, the exact opposite is happening. What you see is that America, through its influence in the media is able to hype up China's competitiveness, turn Europeans against China, and limit the activities of Chinese companies in Europe. The same thing is happening across the world, where US media influence is able to push Chinese out of countries like Malaysia, and turn the public against China. Because of China's weak soft power, and unwillingness to offend the west, China can only develop as rapidly as the west allows it to. What we have witnessed in the past 35yrs is that the west is able to , and does create barriers for China throughout the world, but China is unable, and unwilling to do the same for the west.
One of the key reasons why the west leads China is because the west is strong in soft power, while China is weak. One of the known examples in which the west is able to turn the general public against China is by hyping up China's competitiveness. If a Chinese company comes into town, the western media hypes up the Chinese threat, claiming that it would put the west at a disadvantage. The logic then becomes, you should hate China because they are competing against local companies. On the other hand, China does not try to hype up western threats. In fact, the Chinese media never plays that card. You would not find China trying to turn the public against Americans because Iphones compete with Huawei. China is also unable to turn European against Americans using this same logic, and theory. Realistically speaking, you can see how the entrance of Amazon into the European market directly affects European websites trying to do the same thing. Now if China was indeed rapidly developed, China could, and would go into Europe, and hype up the fact that Amazon is threatening European e-commerce sites, and turn the European public against America, but obviously this isn't happening, hasn't happened, and is unlikely to happen. These tactics can not only turn the European public against America, but can also limit the activity of American companies in Europe, (leading to reduced political influence) and allow China to expand its interests in Europe. However, the exact opposite is happening. What you see is that America, through its influence in the media is able to hype up China's competitiveness, turn Europeans against China, and limit the activities of Chinese companies in Europe. The same thing is happening across the world, where US media influence is able to push Chinese out of countries like Malaysia, and turn the public against China. Because of China's weak soft power, and unwillingness to offend the west, China can only develop as rapidly as the west allows it to. What we have witnessed in the past 35yrs is that the west is able to , and does create barriers for China throughout the world, but China is unable, and unwilling to do the same for the west.
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Are you sure he is Indian? cause I don't want to waste time on troll. Well, you may be right. If I were a localist konger, why should I tell him what I think since I hate the mainlander so much.Ok Indian.
Is this Gary's new account?
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I didn't do some contribution to the rapid development 
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In fact, I did write a post for you. But if you are not mainland Chinese, then why should I argue with you since the relationship between the Mainlander and HK people is not your business. However, if you are indeed a mainland Chinese, I suggest you should talk to more HK people, since you may be in bad luck that had met some of the localists from HK.
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