How can Ukraine possibly get back Donbas?

[Superboy]

IMO, to even has a chance, this is what Ukraine has to: draft more than 4 million soldiers and send them on a kamikaze offensive backed by every single tank and artillery the Ukrainian army has. Even if victory, it would be a pyrrhic victory. It would be far more brutal compared to the Chechnya war because Donbas is backed by neighboring Russia which is a superpower along with China and the US.

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What is your suggestion?

 

[C130]

exaggerate must??
-4 million soldiers
-kamikaze attack
-every tank and artillery

is Donbass a fortress???
is this the Iran/Iraq war???
the siege of Stalingrad???

this whole mess could and should be solved peacefully.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

Calm down Superboy, just because you can log into your account and post, doesn't mean you can write shit.
There is no way Ukraine can get 4 million soldiers, it itself has 100,000+ (many defected therefore numbers fell) soldiers thus would require to put over 3.9 million volunteers, highly doubt they can get that.

Like C130 said, Donbass isn't a fortress but I don't think Ukraine wouldn't want to go to an al out war with Russia. Also NATO wouldn't want to get involved in a war that would result in high casualties and given the fact that Ukraine isn't a NATO member NATO would be discouraged to take any military initiative against Russia.

Russia wouldn't want more economic sanction and thus would refrain from going to a war with Ukraine. Also there are many pro-Russians in the Eastern part of Ukraine, many former Ukrainian military personnel and also several militias within the region want to merge the East Ukraine with Russia (or free from Ukraine).

This is a proxy-war between NATO and EU against Russia and you can see one accusing the other of war-crimes and funding "terrorists".

 

[Superboy]

exaggerate must??
-4 million soldiers
-kamikaze attack
-every tank and artillery

is Donbass a fortress???
is this the Iran/Iraq war???
the siege of Stalingrad???

this whole mess could and should be solved peacefully.

Donbas is thousands of times as tough as Saddam's Iraq.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Let it go its over

 

[vostok]

Donbas is thousands of times as tough as Saddam's Iraq.

You're right, the people of Donbass - are tough guys, Cossacks and miners. During WW2 the Nazis even issued an edict not to take the miners in captivity, because they were ruthless to invaders.

 

[Hindustani78]

There is one article regarding this subject on Ukraine TV.

New poll shows only 16% of Donbas residents want region to leave Ukraine - watch on - uatoday.tv

More than half of Ukrainians surveyed in the poll do not want Donbas to leave Ukraine

Only 16% of Ukrainians want the Donbas region to leave Ukraine, according to a new poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology. More than half of the people surveyed in the poll were not ready to lose the eastern region.

In the Donbas region 72.6% of those who took part in the study support the region staying part of Ukraine. The regions which have the highest number of supporters of a united Ukraine which includes its easternmost region are Kherson with 93% of the polled in favour and Odesa where 88.4% of the surveyed support Donbas remaining part of the eastern European country.

The poll was conducted between the 4 and 19 of December in 179 villages and towns across Ukraine. The report states that 3,035 people took part in the survey.

 

[LaBong]

There is one article regarding this subject on Ukraine TV.

New poll shows only 16% of Donbas residents want region to leave Ukraine - watch on - uatoday.tv

More than half of Ukrainians surveyed in the poll do not want Donbas to leave Ukraine

Only 16% of Ukrainians want the Donbas region to leave Ukraine, according to a new poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology. More than half of the people surveyed in the poll were not ready to lose the eastern region.

In the Donbas region 72.6% of those who took part in the study support the region staying part of Ukraine. The regions which have the highest number of supporters of a united Ukraine which includes its easternmost region are Kherson with 93% of the polled in favour and Odesa where 88.4% of the surveyed support Donbas remaining part of the eastern European country.

The poll was conducted between the 4 and 19 of December in 179 villages and towns across Ukraine. The report states that 3,035 people took part in the survey.

I'll take these surveys with tablespoon of salt!