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in the House of Saud the treachery of the royal family is exhibited in the finest details; their comforts & extravagance that not not only made them unpopular worldwide but also the religious scholars no longer remained PURE in their ethical sense. The usage of religion as a political tool & the Islamic wannabes trying to remain in the political cycle had much adverse affects on many social aspects especially regarding females. The whole 2hr documentary revolves around the principle long acknowledged true b/w Sauds & USA namely "Oil 4 Security"

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Cowards Arab dictators .. I just Hate them by Core . :angry:
 
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Robert Fisk: The corrupt, feudal world of the House of Saud

The Saud family is a real House that Jack built. Its thousands of princes are sublimely unworthy of rule.

Poor old Saudis. It takes quite a lot to evoke sympathy for the head-chopping, hand-severing, anti-feminist, misogynist, feudal, anti-democratic Saudis. These, after all, are the folks who bankrolled the Islamist resistance to the Soviet army in Afghanistan. This is the nation whose interior minister used to have cosy chats with Osama bin Laden in the Saudi embassy in Islamabad.

Indeed, this is the country that chose Osama to be its "prince" in the campaign against Soviet atheism – its own, real, princes not having the guts to lead the Arab "legion" against the Russians. And this is the country that provided 15 of the 19 suicide killers of 11 September 2001. And this is the country whose suicide bombers slaughtered yet more Westerners in Riyadh on Monday. If it's more than 90 dead, it will be al-Qa'ida's greatest triumph since 2001.

But after the latest blitz on Iraq, after the illegal (under international law) invasion of Iraq, and after the naive, dangerous mouthings of America's new colonial masters – I am thinking of the new stomach-in, chest-out musings of their most famous flop, Zionist ex-General Jay Garner – you can't help feeling a twinge of sympathy for the Saudis. After all, they were – like Saddam – created by the West.

The British accepted the Sauds once it was clear the Hashemites were out of the Hejaz, and Franklin D Roosevelt sanctified their rule aboard the USS Quincy. Winston Churchill's drinking spree with the Saudi monarch in Egypt brought an end to Britain's imperial adventure in the land of the Two Holy Places. When Churchill announced that "If it was the religion of His Majesty to deprive himself of smoking and alcohol, I must point out that my rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after, and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them," Ibn Saud was not amused.

The Saud royal family is a real House that Jack built. Its thousands of princes – rakes of a most medieval kind – are sublimely unworthy of rule. They own a third of 60 per cent of the world's oil – they share this global treasure with four other families – and they have produced not only the greediest of sheikhs and the poorest of Gulf slums but the most ferociously Wahhabist, feudal anti-Western institution that has existed since the siege of Vienna. Oil money has corrupted the royal family. Its imams and religious "savants' have long ago decided that the Sauds are western stooges, weaned on prostitution, corruption and US bribes.

But among the neo-conservatives who now drive the Bush administration – the Perles and the Wolfowitzes and the Cohens – Saudi Arabia has long been the financial flip-side of Saddam. Who, after all, bankrolled Saddam's rise to power? Who financed his insane eight-year war with Iran – complete with the chemical warfare of which we are now so appalled? Who, indeed, sent the young Muslims off to fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan? The Saudis. Let us forget – as Messrs Perle, Wolfowitz and Cohen would wish us to forget – they did so with our blessing and encouragement.

And ever since 11 September 2001 – I stress the complete date lest we mix it up with September 1982 (the massacre of 1,700 Palestinians at Sabra and Chatila) or that other 11 September that marked the Kissinger-inspired coup against Salvador Allende – the neo-conservatives in the US administration have been reminding us of the inherent evil of the Saudi regime. It was, after all, Mr Perle, who arranged for a Rand Corporation analyst – the extremely odd Mr Laurent Maurawiec – to tell a Pentagon "advisory board" (heaven knows what they "advise" on) that "the Saudis are active at every level of the terror chain, from planners to financiers, from cadre to foot-soldier, from ideologist to cheerleader." Saudi Arabia was "the kernel of evil."

Ever since, there has been a campaign to denigrate the House of Saud. The most recent was an article by an ex-CIA Middle East "field officer", Robert Baer, who wrote a long and detailed article in The Atlantic Monthly about the imminent collapse of the House of Saud. He described, with devastating accuracy, the near-fatal stroke of King Fahd in 1995 – a seizure which left the elderly Crown Prince Abdullah to rule in place of the still-surviving Fahd.

"From all over Riyadh came the thump-thump of helicopters" as the princes converged on the royal hospital bed; even more so when Fahd seemed on the verge of death in Switzerland last year when – in Switzerland myself – I was awoken by the same "thump-thump' and the screech of royal jets as the princes arrived yet again to demand a slice of the royal pudding. In truth, there are now too many princes – £19,000 a month is not enough for a princely lifestyle and the number of princes, at 15,000, is getting too big to manage. Soon there will be 30,000 – 60,000 in another generation.

Isn't this just what Osama bin Laden always talked about? Odd, isn't it, that Osama's hatreds and Baer's cynicism should coalesce in the Saudi royal family? Osama would like to turn Saudi Arabia into a real Islamic nation and some of his descriptions of Saudi corruption – made personally to me – sound remarkably like the bile of Messrs Perle and Baer. Indeed, the most revolting symbol of corruption produced by Baer is the image of King Fahd, recovering from heart surgery, defecating in the royal swimming pool in front of his entire family.

But fear not, I say. For as Baer wickedly points out, American business is locked into the Saudi royal family. The Carlyle group has been a principal benefactor of Saudi largesse. Frank Carlucci (national security adviser and Secretary of Defence under Reagan) was a chairman, James Baker (Bush Snr's Secretary of State) is a senior counsellor, and Arthur Levitt (Clinton's head of the Securities and Exchange commission) is also an adviser. The current chairman of Carlyle is our own dear John Major.

Halliburton – run by Dick Cheney until he became Vice President – is now benefiting from Iraqi "reconstruction", but is also a major beneficiary of Saudi Arabia, taking a $140m contract to develop an oilfield in 2001. Chevron Texaco is a partner with Saudi Aramco in new oil ventures – formerly on the board was Condoleezza Rice, America's favourite National Security Adviser. And so it goes on. And if you think it doesn't, check the roles of Carla Hills (George Bush Snr's trade representative) and Nicholas Brady, his Treasury Secretary, on the board of a company exploiting, along with the Saudis, Azerbaijan's oil wealth.

So here's a guess. No matter what happens in Saudi Arabia, America will go on backing the House of Saud. Unless they collapse. In which case, the US can take over the Saudi oil fields from its nearby bases in Iraq. If it was 12 minutes' flying time to Iraq's oil reserves, it's the same if they take off from Basra to "secure" Saudi Arabia's oil fields, most of them in territory inhabited by Shia Muslims – whose mentors will (so we hope) be in Iran and southern Iraq.

You can see the way the wind is going. We have Iraq. Forget Saudi Arabia. Until we realise that Osama bin Laden may be installed in Mecca and Medina and Riyadh. And then we'll say, but hang on a moment, didn't we beat him in Afghanistan? Either way, we'll keep the oil – however many victims Osama kills along the way.

Robert Fisk: The corrupt, feudal world of the House of Saud - Robert Fisk, Commentators - The Independent
 
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The Saudis oppose legitimate Iranian nuclear research and development while ignoring Israel's over 200 nuclear bombs. Saudis are cooperates with Zionists against Iranian nuclear program and sanctions on Iran. They are against Hamas which is only force that is standing up to Zionist barbarism.While another puppet Egypt pumped poisonous gas into a tunnel under Gaza's border which was used smuggle food and medical supplies led to the death of many Palestinians. Now the people of Saudi Arab, Egypt, Jordan are supporting Turkey against wishes of their own government on blockade of Gaza.
 
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when you think of religious intollerence
fanaticsm
secterial hatred & opperession of women in Pakistan think Saudi Aerabia
their continued funding of the secterian outfits both political and millitant have brought Pakistan to this day

a land of love of Sufi saints & devotees of the Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH has been ravaged by the intollerent Salafi ideology that is affecting the majority & moderate Sunni Muslims, making the lives of other minority sects hard and worse for nonMuslims
 
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Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud - thestar.com

Thirty wives later, the real passion is a horse

Mention Saudi Arabia, and most people probably think of oil. Not King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud.

He thinks of horses.

He doesn’t think only of horses. He’s the king, after all, and has plenty on his mind — the struggle between Wahhabi-influenced Islamic fundamentalists and liberal-minded modernizers, for example, or the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or Iran, or oil.

Not to mention his numerous wives — he is said to have been married a total of 30 times — and their 35 children or so.

But equines are the king’s passion, both Arabian horses and thoroughbreds.

He keeps hundreds in air-conditioned comfort at Al Janadriyah, his vast ranch surrounded by sand dunes and sky not far from Riyadh, where summertime temperatures regularly exceed 40C.

According to the farm’s Facebook page: “Perhaps the favourite moments of King Abdullah are quiet afternoons spent at Al Janadriyah when he visits his beloved stallions, mares, and foals.”

The stable includes several top British or U.S. stakes winners. Each spring, Abdullah sponsors the King’s Cup, the kingdom’s most important race for thoroughbreds.

Now 85, the Saudi is reckoned to be worth upwards of $20 billion (U.S.), which makes him the world’s third-richest royal, according to Forbes magazine. He is surpassed only by the Sultan of Brunei and the Emir of Abu Dhabi.

Despite his wealth, a poll conducted in February by the Washington-based Pew Research Center found King Abdullah to be the Middle East’s most popular Muslim leader by a wide margin.

Whenever he can, King Abdullah repairs to Al Janadriyah for the weekend, arriving at his ranch along a wide avenue flanked by date palms — just another man who loves horses.

And happens to be rich.
 
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I think it's very clear as to what is happening in the Middle East. The US protects the House of Saud, the founder of Wahabi AQ; & the Saudi monarchy, which spreads extremism in the Muslim world. Bahrain became a sectarian struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The US wants extremist influence in Middle Eastern countries, which gives it a pretext for being "involved" in the region. A group has been formed in the US called 'Alliance of youth movements" started by State of Department staff member, Jared Cohen. He analyzes Islamic culture, & the specific opposition parties & everything about them in various Muslim countries. He used the internet & popular electronic mediums to stage uprisings in these Muslim countries, gives ammunitions to opposition parties this way to overthrow governments. This is what happened in Egypt when Hizb-ul-Tahrir overthrew the Mubarak regime. They tried to do the same with the Libyan government, but the Libyan government stood strong. They also did this with Tunisia, where they started a huge uprising with the use of the internet. The US urged Saudi Arabia to aid the Kingdom of Bahrain against the majority Shiite uprising.

Depose the Saudi monarchy, you will dispose the AQ, you will dispose the US interests in the regions. This is what will end the suffering of the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia is responsible for all the problems of the Muslims, & the US needs it to protect its interests. Saudi Arabia is the root of the problem, which is sad because the House of Allah, the Kabah is there. This is why Saudi Arabia has such a huge effect on the rest of the Muslim world. We all know the effects of Saudi Arabia in Pakistan, & how they even freed Raymond Davis to serve US interests.
 
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US hypocricy is such that when it comes to their interest they lick backs of dictators like Stalin & Saddam; but when its all over it turns it back on them ..& such will be the case of Saudi monarchy. Things like I have heard about the blessed people & blessed land of Saudis is all but shti
 
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The House of Saud represent the very heart of darkness, evil:


King Abdullah warns against sedition
Friday, March 18, 2011


RIYADH: Saudi King Abdullah warned Friday that security forces will "hit" whoever "considers" undermining the kingdom's security and stability, in a speech aired on state-run television.

Saudi King Abdullah announced unprecedented economic benefits worth tens of billions of dollars and warned against any attempt to undermine the kingdom, as upheaval swept the Arab world.

The monarch appeared to be responding to the whirlwind of regional unrest that has ousted autocratic regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and thrown Bahrain, Yemen and Libya into bloody turmoil.

In a speech aired on state-run television, the king, who returned home in February from three -months of medical treatment, praised the security forces for preventing protests that were planned for March 11.

"You are the hitting hand against whoever considers undermining the nation's security and stability," King Abdullah said, addressing Saudi security forces.

He rewarded the interior ministry by ordering the creation of 60,000 more military and security jobs in the ministry and a large number of promotions for soldiers and officers.

And he coupled the warning with an announcement of massive social benefits including higher unemployment payments, better health care and improved housing services and loans.

Among other things, he ordered the pumping of 250 billion riyals ($67 billion) into accommodation welfare to build as many as 500,000 housing units.

This is in addition to a package of social benefits worth an estimated $36 billion, mostly aimed at youth, civil servants and the unemployed, announced earlier this month.

Saudi's oil-rich Eastern Province, where most of the country's Shiite minority lives, has been rocked by protests in recent days.

Tensions have flared since Saudi forces rolled on Monday into Bahrain to help the kimgdom's Sunni Muslim ruling dynasty crush Shiite-led unrest.

Saudi Shiites rallied Friday for a fourth consecutive day to show solidarity with protesters in Shiite-majority Bahrain and demand the release of prisoners.

Witnesses said security forces fired tear gas at demonstrators in the city of Qateef where shots also rang out. Marches were also held in the cities of Tarut, Safwa and Awamiya.

In addition to new houses, all civil servants and the military were gifted the equivalent of two-months salary, and the same to university students, the king said.

The monarch also ordered a minimum monthly wage of 3,000 riyals ($800) for civil servants and introduced monthly unemployment benefits of 2,000 riyals for job-seekers. Payments will start after about eight months.

Unemployment in the world's biggest crude exporter was 10.5 percent last year, but was as high as 30 percent in the 20-29 age group with an estimated 450,000 Saudi citizens without jobs.

Saudi Arabia, which is pumping around nine million barrels of oil a day, has more than $450 billion in assets thanks to high oil price over the past decade.


The king also thanked the religious establishment for helping against protests through issuing fatwas, or religious edicts, outlawing demonstrations.

The king forbid any criticism of the head of the senior religious scholars, Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Shaikh, and ordered around one billion riyals in assistance to various religious bodies including the religious police.


Another decree called on the authorities to force the private sector to create more jobs for Saudis. At present, around 90 percent of several million jobs in the private sector are occupied by foreigners who number six millions.

The king also ordered setting up of the national anti-corruption authority to be headed by a high-ranking official in the capacity of a minister.

Establishing a national anti-corruption body and holding officials to account has been a major demand for reformists in the ultra-conservative Muslim kingdom. The corruption watchdog will be directly under the king
. (AFP/Reuters)
 
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Doesn't sound like an Islamic nation, does it? It's a bloody monarchy, in power to serve America's interests, & working at their behest.
 
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What's all this Islamic stuff yaar? Are we going to get a utopia of the past or the future? Is it too much to expect a modern success or that is for everyone other than so called Muslims?
 
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...& I sometimes believe they [Sauds] have mind-controlling chips implanted by US
 
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when you think of religious intollerence
fanaticsm
secterial hatred & opperession of women in Pakistan think Saudi Aerabia
their continued funding of the secterian outfits both political and millitant have brought Pakistan to this day

a land of lvoe of Sufi saints & devotees of the Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH has been ravaged by the intollerent Salafi ideology that is affecting the majority & moderate Sunni Muslims, making the lives of other minority sects hard and worse for nonMuslims


Hey Mossa This saves me writing, :rofl:
 
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I think it's very clear as to what is happening in the Middle East. The US protects the House of Saud, the founder of Wahabi AQ; & the Saudi monarchy, which spreads extremism in the Muslim world. Bahrain became a sectarian struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The US wants extremist influence in Middle Eastern countries, which gives it a pretext for being "involved" in the region. A group has been formed in the US called 'Alliance of youth movements" started by State of Department staff member, Jared Cohen. He analyzes Islamic culture, & the specific opposition parties & everything about them in various Muslim countries. He used the internet & popular electronic mediums to stage uprisings in these Muslim countries, gives ammunitions to opposition parties this way to overthrow governments. This is what happened in Egypt when Hizb-ul-Tahrir overthrew the Mubarak regime. They tried to do the same with the Libyan government, but the Libyan government stood strong. They also did this with Tunisia, where they started a huge uprising with the use of the internet. The US urged Saudi Arabia to aid the Kingdom of Bahrain against the majority Shiite uprising.

Depose the Saudi monarchy, you will dispose the AQ, you will dispose the US interests in the regions. This is what will end the suffering of the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia is responsible for all the problems of the Muslims, & the US needs it to protect its interests. Saudi Arabia is the root of the problem, which is sad because the House of Allah, the Kabah is there. This is why Saudi Arabia has such a huge effect on the rest of the Muslim world. We all know the effects of Saudi Arabia in Pakistan, & how they even freed Raymond Davis to serve US interests.

Excellent expose from Bilal well done
 
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