Hot Pursuit to Eliminate Hafiz saeed, probablity and possible strategy

[GURU DUTT]

Do they have Naswar in India? Or Garda? Or Samad Bond?

whats that

are you taking them all

 

[Maarkhoor]

Do they have Naswar in India? Or Garda? Or Samad Bond?

Yeh log guter soongh ker guzara kr leytey hien. Guru bhai tu addict hien.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Rutba b na nila na wisalay sanam na idher k rehay na udhr k rehay..
Konsa rutba kahan ki izat
chalay they UNSC mien seat leney unhoun ney hath mien dey diya.
Andheri raat mien hath mien diya

well you can dream waise bhi kissi tazir ko kissi miraasi ki gaali ka koi faraq nahi perta

ab hame UNSC seat ke liye CHINA ke ilaawa saare mulk support ker rahe hain

rahi baat rutbbe ki to iska andaaza aapko NaMo ko USA , France , Germany, Japan, Australia, Russia aur deegar mulko ke dauron ke doraan milne waale protocall se ho hi gaya hoga ... per haye ree jallann

 

[I.R.A]

whats that

are you taking them all

If I was doing any of this stuff I will be saying things like "Jab Sharafat ke kapre utarte hain to sabse zyada mazza sharifon ko hi ata hai".

Sharafat is by the way name mainly given to males. Gandhi waly shok hain bahi kay?

 

[GURU DUTT]

If I was doing any of this stuff I will be saying things like "Jab Sharafat ke kapre utarte hain to sabse zyada mazza sharifon ko hi ata hai".

Sharafat is by the way name mainly given to males. Gandhi waly shok hain bahi kay?

to apko lagta hai mai shareef insaan hoon

maqi sadke sirji

so inshort the thread was about indian palns to eliminate hafeez saeed and here there is pakistanies calling me naswar addict and gay while the other one is lecturing me over izzat and bezaddi ..... i wonder what they call this attitude ... khisyaani billi khanbhaa nochhe

 

[Maarkhoor]

well you can dream waise bhi kissi tazir ko kissi miraasi ki gaali ka koi faraq nahi perta

ab hame UNSC seat ke liye CHINA ke ilaawa saare mulk support ker rahe hain

rahi baat rutbbe ki to iska andaaza aapko NaMo ko USA , France , Germany, Japan, Australia, Russia aur deegar mulko ke dauron ke doraan milne waale protocall se ho hi gaya hoga ... per haye ree jallann

Burnoll laga lo washroom jakey...I bet you k india ever get seat in UNSC

 

[Saahil84]

If american can do it (OBL killing), why couldn't we (indians) can do so. The supporters of this logic are growing in india, among the masses, media and gov. Circles.

Using movies and novels the indian gov. has slowly made up the minds of their people to support any such adventure to eliminate hafiz saeed.

The success of any such attempt will give a great boast to modi sarkar, who has failed to come up to the expectations of its over whelming vote bank in last elections.

So following are the two possible way indian hawks might consider to eliminate hafiz saeed inside pakistani territory.

Option1: Murder attempt using local agents and proxies

This option seems difficult but not impossible. Unlike obl, Hafiz saeed is a free man, who moves freely in cities, give tv intervurss and even address open public gathering (such as in meenar pakistan).

It is possible to target him using a suicide bomber or a sniper in a public gathering.

Incase, the person who make such attempt is captured by hafiz saeed body guards and general public, it will makes no difference.
Indians wont mind sacrificing a person if he is successful in eliminating the prime indian target.


Option2: Precision Air strikes

Hafiz saeed mostly resides in JuD markaz or in his 2 or 3 houses in outskirts of lahore and mureedkay.
Unlike abbotabad which is deep inside Pakistan, the residences and JuD markaz of hafiz saeed are very well known places and very close to indian boarder [around 20 miles].

Targetting HS using Precision guided bombs can not be ruled out. A Sukhoi MKI at supercruise speed will reach the JuD markaz or HS residence in hardly 2 to 3 minutes. During peace time, the response time to counter intercept such enemy planes is more than 5 to 7 minutes.

With accurate intelligence
Of HS presence at his residence, IAF can carry out such attack, even if they lose their aircraft and pilot while returning home.

It isnt any film Or drama, but such actions can not be ruled out, considering the OBL episode in mind.

Conclusion:
1. After myanmar fiasco, hawks on indian side may consider any such adventure.

2. Incase of any such action, on the diplomatic front, India will take the stance that they have not attacked pakistan but have only targeted mumbai attack master mind who is on UN security council list of terrorist.

3. Only thing that is restricting indians from any such miss adventure is the unknown Pakistani response. Indians are not sure how pakistan will respond to all this, will pakistan give a similar response to India or make a judicial commission like OBL issue.


(Plz discuss the issue on merit, no trolling please)

No trolling allowed...that's a shame

Why do Indian officials keep giving statements like "we nearly decided to kill Dawood" or "hot pursuit into Pakistan is an option"? If they think it is feasible, why don't they just do it?

I really think that Pakistanis credit RAW with way more than it is capable of, or intends to do. The reason is that Pakistanis are used to an intelligence agency that is omni-present and all-powerful in Pakistan. So they assume that the same must be true about RAW as well. Similarly, since ISI conducts covert terrorism in so many theaters, Pakistanis assume that RAW must be doing so as well.

From what I know of India, it is not possible. RAW has ZERO say in these matters. Successive civilian governments have not allowed either their military or intelligence apparatus to become effective. Didn't I.K. Gujral shut down all covert assets in Pakistan as a CBM? Hah, fat load of confidence building that did!!! In most other countries he would have been tried for treason. In India, they didn't bat an eyelid.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Burnoll laga lo washroom jakey...I bet you k india ever get seat in UNSC

hamme UNSC ki seat mille ya na mille aapko kashmir nahi minle wala

hum lakh miskeen mulk sahi per itne bhi girre hue nahi hain ki hamme apnee masheehat chalane ke liye Coilataion support fund , war remitence or IMF/WB loans ke liye apne hi logo per apni hi fauj aur airforce istemaal kerni parre aur salalla aur raymond davis affairs jaisee lanat ke bavjood kerry lugar bill ke liye raazi hona parre

 

[Viny]

ahh so your a doctor i guess

you mean

 

[lastofthepatriots]

A story you wish was true. LOL


Lagar Bagar bhartis...

 

[Razia Sultana]

No trolling allowed...that's a shame

Why do Indian officials keep giving statements like "we nearly decided to kill Dawood" or "hot pursuit into Pakistan is an option"? If they think it is feasible, why don't they just do it?

I really think that Pakistanis credit RAW with way more than it is capable of, or intends to do. The reason is that Pakistanis are used to an intelligence agency that is omni-present and all-powerful in Pakistan. So they assume that the same must be true about RAW as well. Similarly, since ISI conducts covert terrorism in so many theaters, Pakistanis assume that RAW must be doing so as well.

From what I know of India, it is not possible. RAW has ZERO say in these matters. Successive civilian governments have not allowed either their military or intelligence apparatus to become effective. Didn't I.K. Gujral shut down all covert assets in Pakistan as a CBM? Hah, fat load of confidence building that did!!! In most other countries he would have been tried for treason. In India, they didn't bat an eyelid.

There is no official statement on killing Dawood. Our ex-home secretary told a tv channel about a plot to punish dawood ibrahim by ex IB chief and present NSA Ajit Doval that was sabotaged by the Mumbai Police.
When India has gathered so much of evidence against Dawood, its no difficult for a security agency like RAW to carry out a covert operation. But why should India do this? As long as Dawood and Hafiz Sayeed are roaming free in Pakistan, India is able to cause more damage to Pakistan. Anyone remembers Clive Lloyd dropping the catch of Geoffrey Boycott in the finals of world cup 1979?

 

[GURU DUTT]

you mean

na karro ji ... becharra gareeb dil hai ... reham

 

[Maarkhoor]

hamme UNSC ki seat mille ya na mille aapko kashmir nahi minle wala

hum lakh miskeen mulk sahi per itne bhi girre hue nahi hain ki hamme apnee masheehat chalane ke liye Coilataion support fund , war remitence or IMF/WB loans ke liye apne hi logo per apni hi fauj aur airforce istemaal kerni parre aur salalla aur raymond davis affairs jaisee lanat ke bavjood kerry lugar bill ke liye raazi hona parre

Kashmir to cheer kr bhi leyngey
I think you forget me yaad karo laal qila flag changing ceremony

 

[GURU DUTT]

Kashmir to cheer kr bhi leyngey
I think you forget me yaad karo laal qila flag changing ceremony

kyon nahhi kyon nahhi ye koshish bhi ker ke dekh lo

 

[Saahil84]

Anyone remembers Clive Lloyd dropping the catch of Geoffrey Boycott in the finals of world cup 1979?

Awesome point!!!

 

[Viny]

na karro ji ... becharra gareeb dil hai ... reham

Lagta hai shadi ho gayi....isliye dil ki gareebi sata rahi hai