HK police officer: HK protesters "are like zombies"

[Three_Kingdoms]

Yeah, yesterday the EU just BSed about those excessive police violence but didn't say a thing about those rioters. Very insidious. Beside the hand-gestures, they use soical media to communicate each other and spread fake informations about PLA and police to mislead those cannon fodders. I have a relative who is one of the hooligans that participates every riots. Only thing I could describle him now is a religious fanatic, who can't reason and full of deep hatrd for gov't with no obvious reason (he is a property owner).

The whole is a conspiracy plot Brother, aiming first to bring down the whole advancing economy of China and then the collapse of the Country.

 

[obj 705A]

Beside the West, who ringleaders do you know that is from the inside of HK?

Simply put arrest the organizers of these protests, they are not even hiding themselves, like for instance these people:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...li_medium=hong_kong_section_top_picks_for_you
with a little bit more Googling Im sure I could find out who are the members of this "Civil Human Rights Front", and Im sure the capabilities of the Chinese intelegence agency is much more than just having Google.

Im just a common citizen yet Im 100% sure I would do 10 times better at dealing with the issue in HK than Xi Jinping:-

for starters I would delete all posts & accounts on social media that call for protests.

SECOND I would direct all local news channels/agencies/newspapers in HK to publish news that do nothing but demonize the protests & praise the police & the government & support law & order, and I would start with the SCMP & if for any reason Jack Ma or any other owner of the news papers/agencies refuse to do so then I would strip them off their money & let them rot in jail & appoint some one loyal in their place.

THIRD I would allow the the police to use all measures against the protests (except live ammunition).

FOURTH I wont give approval to any more protests, and if you do protest then you would be breaking the law and would be punished accordingly.

FIFTH I would arrest all those organizers that I previously mentioned at the beginning of my post & punish them with the death penalty for treason & conspiring against the state, conspiring against the state is not some fun game & I would teach them that the hard way, if you indanger the well being of a nation of 1.4 billion people then be prepared to die.

and in the worst case scenario if all that does not work then I would abolish the one country two systems, send in the PLA to restore order and open reeducation centers where HKers would be taught to love the state.

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frankly speaking when some members here say some thing like 'HK decending into chaos is part of some grand master plan by Xi Jinping to lure out ringleaders' I think that is nothing more than wishfull thinking, a wishfull thinking that their government is actually doing something & not just being indefferent and/or a coward.

 

[Rasengan]

Yeah, yesterday the EU just BSed about those excessive police violence but didn't say a thing about those rioters. Very insidious. Beside the hand-gestures, they use soical media to communicate each other and spread fake informations about PLA and police to mislead those cannon fodders. I have a relative who is one of the hooligans that participates every riots. Only thing I could describle him now is a religious fanatic, who can't reason and full of deep hatrd for gov't with no obvious reason (he is a property owner).

I feel sorry for you brother. I hope your relative eventually uses his common sense and realizes he is being used.

 

[bbccdd1470]

The HK Police just arrested a person last night and in his flat they found 10 petrol bombs, TATP dynamites, knifes, safty helmets, acidic liquids, iron pipes and some T-shirts with "反送中" in it. Those rioters (the foreign trained and sponsored terrorists) are going to make a bloody scenes on this Sunday. The time has come, prepare for the worst my HK brothers.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

The HK Police just arrested a person last night and in his flat they found 10 petrol bombs, TATP dynamites, knifes, safty helmets, acidic liquids, iron pipes and some T-shirts with "反送中" in it. Those rioters (the foreign trained and sponsored terrorists) are going to make a bloody scenes on this Sunday. The time has come, prepare for the worst my HK brothers.

All together 3 persons so far have been arrested in connection with the raid on the bombs:


Three arrested over Hong Kong’s ‘largest-ever’ bomb plot on eve of major anti-government protest

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/bomb-disposal-squad-called-explosive-040825047.html
Clifford Lo
South China Morning Post 20 July 2019

Hong Kong police have detained three men after seizing what is being billed as the largest amount of the deadliest explosives ever uncovered in the city, along with pro-independence materials, from a home-made laboratory in a Tsuen Wan industrial building on the eve of another major anti-government march.

Controlled explosions were conducted on site at the Lung Shing Factory Building on Texaco Road on Saturday as the police bomb squad disposed of some of the extremely powerful and highly unstable explosives.

Senior superintendent Steve Li Kwai-wah of the Organised Crime and Triad Bureau said investigators were looking into the background of a 27-year-old man who was arrested in connection with the case to determine if it was related to the mass protest planned for Sunday, which has already sparked concerns about potential chaos because of a dispute over the route and duration of the march.

Two men, both aged 25, were also arrested on Saturday night in connection with the find, one in Tsuen Wan and the other in Sheung Shui.

Some of the items seized at the site. Photo: Felix Wong


Superintendent Alick McWhirter of the Explosive Ordnance Disposal unit said: “I think, without a doubt, this is the largest seizure we have ever come across in Hong Kong.”

Referring to triacetone triperoxide, also known as TATP, an explosive substance among the materials seized, he added: “It is well known, unstable and dangerous.”

The drama began at 10:30pm on Friday night when officers, acting on intelligence received, raided the building and found 2kg of powerful explosives, 10 petrol bombs and acidic substances being manufactured in the home-made lab, along with knives and metal rods.

Petrol bombs, knives and rods were among items seized. Photo: Felix Wong

McWhirter said his squad handled about 1kg of TATP on Saturday morning and were still working on another kilogram of the explosives – the detonation and disposal process was expected to take some time.

He said TATP was highly unstable and powerful, with the potential to cause exceptional damage.

“There are multiple problems because we are dealing with the explosive in different stages of its manufacture … from ice-cold conditions to room temperature,” McWhirter said.

“The nature of this explosive means that … over a number of hours, its sensitivity can change, making it a constant challenge for my officers to adapt.”

All explosives had been safely handled by 9pm on Saturday.

Over a number of hours, its sensitivity can change, making it a constant challenge for my officers to adapt

Bomb disposal superintendent Alick McWhirter

TATP has been used in deadly terrorist attacks around the world, including in Israel and the London bombings of July 7, 2005, in which 52 people were killed and more than 700 injured. A small amount of TATP is powerful enough to blow a car to bits, and it can be treacherous for handlers as well because of its instability.

Firefighters on standby at the industrial building. Photo: Felix Wong


Items seized at the site on Saturday included a T-shirt with the logo of the Hong Kong National Front, a pro-independence group, leaflets saying “no extradition to China”, and a pamphlet on the June 9 protest march that drew historic numbers out onto the streets.

Police also seized several sets of portable loudspeakers, gas masks, goggles, hard hats and catapults, along with at least one can of kerosene.

Disqualified lawmaker Sixtus Baggio Leung Chung-hang, the spokesman of the Hong Kong National Front, was unavailable for comment by publishing time.

Sixtus Baggio Leung Chung-hang, the spokesman of the Hong Kong National Front (inserted photo by Three_Kingdoms)

His group issued a statement through its Telegram messaging app channel, acknowledging that the man arrested was a member, but denying any knowledge of the explosives.

The group said the industrial unit was used to store acoustic equipment and other promotional materials.

Senior superintendent Li said the unit had been rented out for several months and the police would not rule out more arrests.

He condemned those behind the explosives lab for being irresponsible and posing a danger to society. They could face jail terms of up to 20 years under the law.

Officers seen in the building. Photo: TVB News


Firefighters were called in early on Saturday morning and people were evacuated from the factory building as police cordoned off the scene for bomb experts to carry out controlled detonations.

Six fire engines and two ambulances were sent to the scene.

The case raised tensions in the middle of a weekend of ongoing and planned protests against the government’s now-suspended extradition bill, even as police ramped up security measures over fears of continued violence.

In December 2017, three alleged members of a pro-independence party in Hong Kong were jailed for up to 46 months for making or possessing materials, including TATP, that could be used to produce explosives at the former ATV film studios in Ho Chung, Sai Kung.

The case was uncovered shortly before the city’s legislature was to vote on a controversial electoral reform bill in 2015.

They were suspected to be from the National Independent Party, which sought to make smoke bombs to sabotage the vote, according to a recorded police interview with one of the defendants that was played in court.

Pro-Beijing camp to hold rival rallies
Local | 18 Jul 2019 5:58

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  Pro-government figures are organizing a series of demonstrations to "safeguard Hong Kong", with the first planned for Saturday evening at Tamar, RTHK reports.
  
  Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong chairwoman Starry Lee Wai-king and former health secretary Ko Wing-man are among those organizing the rallies.
  
  They said the events will be peaceful and participants should dress in white and not wear any face masks or helmets, and not to engage in any conflicts.
  
  One of the organizers of the rally, CPPCC member Kennedy Wong Ying-ho, said they want to provide a platform for people to voice their message against violence.
  
  “We are going to show to Hong Kong that we can voice [our views] in a peaceful manner and we hope the society can restore its peace and develop the economy, and allow the government to continue to press on and to develop its policy for people’s livelihood,” he said.
  
  Meanwhile, a pro-Beijing group formed mainly of CPPCC delegates held a demonstration outside the police's headquarters in Wan Chai to show their support for officers.
  
  The Friends of Hong Kong Association said it also handed over a donation of HK$10 million to the police welfare fund.
  
  David Lan Hong-Tsung, who was the SAR's first secretary for Home Affairs, also joined the demonstration.
  
  “Who give us the rule of law in Hong Kong? Who give us its confidence? It’s the Hong Kong police. They are doing a very good job,” he said.
  
  “I’ve seen many police force round the world. Among the cleanest, among the most law-abiding members on the force, you can find them in Hong Kong," he said.
  
  "No force is a hundred percent perfect, but I can tell you that the Hong Kong police force can stand up and tell the world – we are among the cleanest,” the former official said.

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news.php?id=131617&sid=4

The rally on July 20, 2019:

Another embedded vid on the 20th July rally:

https://www.scmp.com/video/hong-kon...ort-hong-kong-police-who-earlier-foiled-citys

 

[Rasengan]

This news is rather troubling. But more importantly, questions need to be answered. 1) How did they get the material? In Britain, the intelligence service and the police put a red flag on individuals who purchase a dangerous substance in large quantities. 2) Where did they learn to make these bombs? They must interrogate those arrested and find out if they have foreign handlers. But if the terrorists gained information to construct a bomb from the internet then HK must censor these websites. In Britain, it's a criminal offence in entering such sites. 3) Who has funded their operation. 4) What are there motives? But good job HK police.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Just very sad last night...HK people fought HK people, and now gangsters vs gangsters for revenge...Violence only incites more violence. We the HK people are the only loser here...I do not want to say anymore...

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

Just very sad last night...HK people fought HK people, and now gangsters vs gangsters for revenge...Violence only incites more violence. We the HK people are the only loser here...I do not want to say anymore...

Before that and their riots at Western District, the "black" T-shirt hooligans attacked and vandalised the Liaison Office of the Central People's Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region which is very very digusting.

This news is rather troubling. But more importantly, questions need to be answered. 1) How did they get the material? In Britain, the intelligence service and the police put a red flag on individuals who purchase a dangerous substance in large quantities. 2) Where did they learn to make these bombs? They must interrogate those arrested and find out if they have foreign handlers. But if the terrorists gained information to construct a bomb from the internet then HK must censor these websites. In Britain, it's a criminal offence in entering such sites. 3) Who has funded their operation. 4) What are there motives? But good job HK police.

1. the materials for the bombs are easy purchases from industrial suppliers / chemical joints which I admit we have little or very loose control over the transactions before it is extremely rare for a peaceful and muli-cultural place like HK to have bomb attacks on civilians. Perhaps after this event, we should work a lot harder on both on the intelligence collection and on law control over this.
2. I think the thugs are not learning to make a nuke; the process of how to make this bombs can be easily found on the net or just go to the us embassies, they will be happy to guide the thugs through.
3. the rogue state through their agencies in HK
4. Motives are clear, as clear as any "colour revolutions" that the rogue state has initiated, funded and assisted around the globe.

Hereunder are just tip-of-iceberg lists of the source of funding:

Funding flow-chart:

Some of he scumbag receivers (ring-leaders and the rogue state proxies) of the $$$:

Traitors:

Also I have posted the following article several times on this forum:

US Now Admits it is Funding “Occupy Central” in Hong Kong
By Tony Cartalucci
Global Research, July 06, 2019
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-now-admits-it-is-funding-occupy-central-in-hong-kong/5405680

 

[obj 705A]

Just very sad last night...HK people fought HK people, and now gangsters vs gangsters for revenge...Violence only incites more violence. We the HK people are the only loser here...I do not want to say anymore...

well what can you do, Carrie Lam is hiding in the corner of her room & Xi Jinping seems to have forsaken HK, he is acting as if it is not even part of China, honestly it is at these times that I realize that China needs a second Mao Zedong because for all his faults I dont think he would let a Chinese city decend to that extent into lawlessness.

at this point the only ones protecting HK are the police, the police should not wait for anything from Carrie & Xi because these two are in sleep mode, IMO the police deserves a significant pay raise.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

well what can you do, Carrie Lam is hiding in the corner of her room & Xi Jinping seems to have forsaken HK, he is acting as if it is not even part of China, honestly it is at these times that I realize that China needs a second Mao Zedong because for all his faults I dont think he would let a Chinese city decend to that extent into lawlessness.

at this point the only ones protecting HK are the police, the police should not wait for anything from Carrie & Xi because these two are in sleep mode, IMO the police deserves a significant pay raise.

A big NO!

President Xi and Company are smart not to fall into this dirty trap set up by the rogue state usa!

 

[obj 705A]

A big NO!

President Xi and Company are smart not to fall into this dirty trap set up by the rogue state usa!

trap? elaborate please what trap do you think the US has put?

 

[bbccdd1470]

A big NO!

President Xi and Company are smart not to fall into this dirty trap set up by the rogue state usa!

He is not from HK, that's why he doesn't understand the ground reality and what the gov't could do or not. However, I feel that he sincerely wants to help and provides any advices.

 

[YeBeWarned]

We need Rick Grimes in HK.

 

[vi-va]

A big NO!

President Xi and Company are smart not to fall into this dirty trap set up by the rogue state usa!

It will take time when most of the enthusiasm and momentum of political movement released. Political movement is irrational, it never was. When it happens, knock down by polices won't work.

Anyone who read The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind, not hard to understand this basic logic.

 

[Brainsucker]

petrol bomb? A molotov bomb?