HK gov't to hold meeting with Occupy students on Friday: Xinhua

[Shishike]

Do you know anyone personally who's working inside the western media industry?



If you're not smart enough to comprehend what I said then read it again slowly.

If you're only here to write a one-liner to act cool on the net and boost your ego then I suggest writing these one-liners elsewhere in the other threads where there's a lot more readers so you can feel slightly better about yourself.

so sorry you just cannot get understand what i said.

As you said the only difference is China only know....

but did you realize that China works much better than the democracy area you mentioned? and could you name one country with huge population and good development under "democracy"?

Not we dont know how to run democracy, you can see the Chaos happens on Taiwan and Hongkong, just not a good idea for a big country, and for the democracy issues, I think whatever the country you live in, democracy doesn't work well.

Forgive my guessing, but may I know where are you from?

 

[William Hung]

Not in Australia.
In Los Angeles, I used to know some people in Hollywood.

Well, I don't know too much about the news industry in the US.

But I used to have a classmate in Uni back in Aus, his auntie was working for Fairfax media in the sales department (for ads, etc). Well I don't know her personally, but I had a chance to talk with her on two occasion and we chatted about her jobs and her industry, etc.

I also had a uni lecturer who was familiar with the news+media industry.

Both of them told me similar stories. The story about the news+media industry being controlled by capitalists and private interest group and is secretly funded by them is simply over exaggerated. Big news media company are owned or run by wealthy elites (businessman) but their control and influence is quite small. It's mostly controlled in the sense that the owners/shareholders or board of directors are wealthy elite themselves so there is a bias to look after their friends, who are often other wealthy business folks or politicians. But they don't certainly have a check list or command list dictating the journos and editors what to write.

It is actually run just any other big private business. They do whatever they must do to increase more readership and sell those ads. And here's a thing they both mentioned... it is as much about catering to readers demand as it is about trying to inform and mold public opinion. It's a two way thing, thats why there's a lot of rubbish on the news like celebrity nonsense and tabloid piece. They are just giving what the public wants, to increase the sales and revenues. So when they bash a country or politician, sometime it's because that's what the readers like to read and so they want to ride the trend.

They don't have bucket loads of financial funds from elites to be their mouthpiece like most people think.

This was back in Aus, not sure about the US.

so sorry you just cannot get understand what i said.

As you said the only difference is China only know....

but did you realize that China works much better than the democracy area you mentioned? and could you name one country with huge population and good development under "democracy"?

Not we dont know how to run democracy, you can see the Chaos happens on Taiwan and Hongkong, just not a good idea for a big country, and for the democracy issues, I think whatever the country you live in, democracy doesn't work well.

Forgive my guessing, but may I know where are you from?

Man you people just don't get it.

I don't care about democracy or Authoritarian rule or whatever political system you want to talk about. My post was not even about political system. I don't care about your debate about whether Authoritarian or democracy will help your country grow, etc.

I'm talking about something else completely. I thought that first post of mine was clear enough. Did you read it?

 

[tranquilium]

You still don't get it. You've completely missed my point.

You're thinking I'm challenging your country to open up to democracy. You're thinking I believe US democracy is better than your country's political system and so you're trying to give a defense why PRC should not adopt the US system. You've completely missed the point.

I wasn't even comparing about political systems nor was I arguing which one is superior than the other.

@Developereo and I was talking about this skills set that the US political establishment have that the CCP lack.

I do get it. Your point is on methods to handle these types of problems, which every country experiences. My point is simply there are more than one way of doing things. Look, there are some very important advantages when you tie in social sanctification with advancement of the society. Chief being the main focus of the politicians are now being focused on social development instead of winning the next election. Of course, the draw back is that if you fail, the result will be so much worse, this is why this method is only useful for very large countries that stood a very realistic chance of beating the other competitors.

 

[William Hung]

I do get it. Your point is on methods to handle these types of problems, which every country experiences.

Not to handle problems, but to handle humans.

My point is simply there are more than one way of doing things. Look, there are some very important advantages when you tie in social sanctification with advancement of the society. Chief being the main focus of the politicians are now being focused on social development

And that's the weakness of your approach. You're trying to control external factors such as the economy, security, stability, etc, to win the hearts and minds of people. The other approach is to control directly the hearts and minds of the people.

instead of winning the next election.

Elections in the West is nothing more than a farce.

Of course, the draw back is that if you fail, the result will be so much worse, this is why this method is only useful for very large countries that stood a very realistic chance of beating the other competitors.

And that's why the US is several steps ahead of you in controlling their population. Look at it this way, if your country somehow collapse, economically or militarily, etc, your people will no longer respect your political establishment, perhaps they will look for other type of political systems and leaders.

If the US collapse economically, or whatever, you'll most likely won't see their people asking for other political systems. They may push for leaders to resign, but they won't change their constitution. It takes more skills to mold the hearts and minds of people to become like that.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The HK strike will have support from Mao. Above poster is Mao go Anyuan go incite riots.