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I'm sick of some of here on the forum having problem with Germans the first thing they've about Hitler and his army is "Nazi" "Evil" "Maniac" and so on...

You're brain washed with Fox/CNN/BBC/NAT GEO/DISCOVERY...You hear one side of story and believe in it you guys need to research that's what i tell most over here...I do not see any of you calling moronic bush jr/sr as maniac for bombing Chinese embassy in Belgrade or bombing new born facility in Iraq and as well as Belgrade killing all babies and an estimated in million Iraqis displaced and thousands killed..no body calls jews maniac for their killing for the past 41 Years, i do not see people calling Hindu Zionist army as maniac for killing 85 thousand innocents confirmed Kashmiris. The only thing looming in your heads in Nazi..Germany Lost big deal they lost they had not many of allies with them the way the put up fight bravo to them..US bombed Japan and War ended i don't care what most of you say I say Germans did their best to the last.

i agree with you 100% but about Hitler i would say like the Holy Qur'an said "One murder of innocent is equal to the murder of whole mankind" and hitler killed millions of jews, desabled peoples and the list goes on. I personally don't like Jews much but killing even 1 Innocent Jew is equavalant to the killing of whole mankind in my eyes.

So along with Snr Bush, Jnr Bush, Tony Blair, The PM of Israel, Indian policy makers who kills Kashmiris or anybody that kill innonent human is as much guilty as Hitler

@ sathruvinasakh

you have an Indian flag but you do not seems to be an indian to me ..... may i know about your background please
 
@ sathruvinasakh

you have an Indian flag but you do not seems to be an indian to me ..... may i know about your background please

the second country i like is india.because of their ancient civilization
no other reason.
he is one saying.but u take is with heart

the greatest export from India to the other part of the world is its culture and civilization.
like me many germans are so interested in researching about indian ancient culture and prowess.
 
if it is German's internal matter why the preachers of so called peace (lil americans as i call them and others) every now and than use the word nazi as an example of evil regime why don't they stfu for good..The jews by nature are corruptors as they did German regime kicked them and today the middle east mess is the creation of jewish/british monks in parliament of british raj at that time.
 
I sincierely beg your pardon about using the term maniac.
Every country leaders thinks in his countries perspective.Whatever hitler did then was thought to be best for germany after suffering much loss in WWII.
And you indians being pawns of brits and yankees may not know much about nationalism and stuff.
gute that we ruined the birtans economy which in due course led to the freedom of india,else you people might have been under british control till today.

I beg your pardon:undecided: I don't think you have thought about the other side either actually India is the Creation of
Brits they were the ones who united us and how does it really matter that this unification was for their own profit the truth is if Britishers never had entered India we would have been in a completely different situation now at that time we were being ruled by different rulers marathas,Sikhs,rajputs,nawabs and many other the Britishers unified us gave us education may be for the own motives but they made us look like humans(except the fact that they took away our freedom) and why do you think we should not be thankful to them for all this?
you fought against Brits but that was your war for your benefits if you must have defeated them you must have ruled the west and japs must have made the east their colony we would have been in the same position.you people were also supporting imperialism.
I am a nationalist and a socialist(don't know if that equates to your national socialist ideology or not) whatever I have a great respect for Hitler and i always had:cheers:
 
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I am a nationalist and a socialist(don't know if that equates to your national socialist ideology or not) whatever I have a great respect for Hitler and i always had:cheers:

Siege Heil :cheesy:



I respect him :cheers:
 
Honestly speaking
what all the USA boast about today of technology came from Germany.
their rocket technology and stealthy technology and all space science and submarine tech is german.

For germany is it matter of hours to build a brand new atomic bomb from scrap.Can any nation on earth do that? No i highly doubt it.
May be japan might come second in doing that with their technological advances along side germans.

German Technology is the best in this modern world.
If you consider a tunnel boring machine,it has to be a german company who patented most.like wise theire were numerous thing that germans are good at.
Danke.

I don't think anyone can question the German technology no doubt it's the best.:smitten:
 
Mr Sathruvinasakh you are entitled to your view, but it would appear to be a rather blinkered and uninformed one.

Whichever way you look at it Adolf Hitler’s regime in Nazi Germany was despicable; during his years in power political opponents, mental patients, the old and infirm, Jews, Slavs, Russians and many others were ruthlessly exterminated in purpose built camps (as well as other places); the Germans used industrial methods to kill human beings. Asians were regarded as being racially inferior and would have been used as slave labour and worked to death if they fell into the hands of the so-called “master race”. I’m sure that even you might find that aspect of Hitler’s beliefs difficult to defend.

Claiming that other regimes are as bad (as you do) does not excuse the Germans, it just highlights that the other murderous maniacs should also be stopped. It is the kind of argument that children make when caught being bad – “don’t punish me, my brother has done something even worse”; most of us realise the puerility of that argument by the time we are in our teens.

I suggest you go and visit Germany; you would discover that the Germans themselves are embarrassed about their past behaviour – that is why we are now able to welcome them back into the fellowship of the civilised nations; they admit that they were badly wrong and that is the most important stage in the process of reforming.

Your posts make you sound rather juvenile and foolish; I suggest you stick to commenting on subjects that you understand.
 
The only 3 Germans i really respect apart from other Germans too are:
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Note CliveH: refer to what britain did in Africa rape, mass murder/genocide/loot, occupying land, slaves and all the maniac acts those lil brits could do! i ain't gonna take ur S**t in this regards go through the history..
 
Hitler could have led Germany into a brighter future without wars. He could have strengthened german industry and economic without resulting to war and put focus into commercial technology and science. He need not have annexed other countries. He need not have invaded poland, which means britain and france declaring war on germany. He need not have invaded russia.

He could have restored Germany pride and confidence without war.

No Hitler did the above for revenge. Fought britain and france partly for revenge. fought russia partly for revenge. It is as if he demands a rematch for having lost 20 years earlier. He thought Jews were behind germany's defeat and so revenge taken too. Hitler bears grudges.

He is your classical eye for an eye old testament man. Sometimes 10 eyes for one.
 
I have made my point and sadly some of the contributors to this blog are too stupid (and/or ignorant) to see Hitler's political failings.

To excuse any action on the basis that others have done worse is pathetic and certainly indicitative of an inability to tell right from wrong.

This is why some countries are in a political mess and subject to violence and corruption, luckily some countries/societies have grown up and no longer behave in this way.

You who believe Hitler was a great man are ignoring his cruelty and incompetance; if he had been a great man he would have won not lost.

The brave "Mr No Name" above was asleep when as a school child he should have been told that we study history to learn from it and so that we do not to repeat our ancestors mistakes; that is why honest history and freedom of the press are so important in a civilised society - so that the sort of lie that the "maniacs" peddle can be refuted with solid evidence.

The evidence is that Hitler was a mass murderer and a fool, he was never going to keep his ambitions to within the German frontiers, all his speeches, books and actions showed that.

To selectively quote the Old Testament is pointless and can be used to prove anything - try reading the New Testament which sets out a code for harmonious living. I'm not religious but I don't think killing people because they don't agree with you or get in your way is anything other than indicitative of a lack of higher intelligence.
 
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Interesting debate

I wonder if Hitler was really that much of a big bad wolf as the world makes him to be his policies look similar to Geroge W Bush - same type of profiling , and discrimination
Hitler looks like Saddam he was normal guy the media hyped him up to be something greater then satan so a war/killings can be justified

How is home land security policies different then what hitler implemented on jew to wear a name tag - ??? Arent all ppl now wearing a name tag (electronic reference) in Home land security files ??

Humans are interesting creatures they will do anything if you can justify with stories/religion and "good cause" what ever that is ...

May be Hitler burned his victim , Allied froces /Israel used chemical phosporus to do the job which burns untill it completely eats the flesh out, Viet Nam/Afghanistan/Iraq etc just to name a few cases of usage of chemical agents to burn victims

Allied forces say that well they starved the POW .. but .. how is that different for sanctions on food and medical aid to Palestinians or Iraw after 1990 war.

How is burning in some chamber different then a predetor missile hiting civilian target and the whole home , being engulfed in flame and it burns even living person in home who were not even involved in any war

I don't know I don't understand world politics - a killer is always a killer just changes uniforms sometime.

On a softer note if it was not for WW2 I doubt we would have gained our independence from British which we thankfully did - we would have been bringing tea and buscuits to our lords -if it was not for WW2

But its pretty childish to assume - WW2 was just caused by Hitler alone it takes two to tango ... always , and Allied forces were not innocent either ...even now they are building defence shields against Russia and giving weapons to Tiwan -

Sooner or later WW4 will happen in our life times that much is guarenteed

I am still confused on Hitler - as there is un conclusive detail on OTHER VIEW ...the other side of story we keep hearing the one dimensional story in media/books because its pretty much outlawed to speak for the other side of story so it make it hard to understand , sure you can accept a certain view point but there must be more to the story
 
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Well Clive perhapse you misunderstood me.

Where did I say I excuse Hitler's actions?
Where did I say Hitler is not cruel?
Where did I agree killing people because they did not agree with you?
Did I say I blindly respect him?

No all I did was state my facts and view, but it seems you cannot tolerate people who disagree from you. Did I disrespect any person who don't agree with my view? You know intolerant people are the ones to be feared, because once in a while one of them becomes hitler.

No you are the one who misunderstood my post because of your inherent bias.

Hitler has done some things right by building post war German economy situation. Even most historians don't deny some of his positive contributions.

Please take the middle way.
regards,

I have made my point and sadly some of the contributors to this blog are too stupid (and/or ignorant) to see Hitler's political failings.

To excuse any action on the basis that others have done worse is pathetic and certainly indicitative of an inability to tell right from wrong.

This is why some countries are in a political mess and subject to violence and corruption, luckily some countries/societies have grown up and no longer behave in this way.

You who believe Hitler was a great man are ignoring his cruelty and incompetance; if he had been a great man he would have won not lost.

The brave "Mr No Name" above was asleep when as a school child he should have been told that we study history to learn from it and so that we do not to repeat our ancestors mistakes; that is why honest history and freedom of the press are so important in a civilised society - so that the sort of lie that the "maniacs" peddle can be refuted with solid evidence.

The evidence is that Hitler was a mass murderer and a fool, he was never going to keep his ambitions to within the German frontiers, all his speeches, books and actions showed that.

To selectively quote the Old Testament is pointless and can be used to prove anything - try reading the New Testament which sets out a code for harmonious living. I'm not religious but I don't think killing people because they don't agree with you or get in your way is anything other than indicitative of a lack of higher intelligence.
 
So, it seems this forum is filled with Nazi sympathizers.

Why am I not surprised?
 
So, it seems this forum is filled with Nazi sympathizers.

Why am I not surprised?

We are highly intellectual people , we rather debate the validity and logic of previous wars , if we accepted a distorted view , then whats the point of having an intellect. The whole idea of having a brain is to analyse past wars and conflicts and avoid it in future. Its just called discussing and debate

If we don't debate then there is no differece between Taliaban who say its against their law to discuss "Laws" they approved -

Its beneficial to learn from previous wars and what kind of behavioral actions taken by society as a whole to validate war.

If you feel that its ok , to drop bombs on civilians , and justify it with some notion that its a rightous war and for good of greater mankind welll guess what that same old excuse is used by Al Qaida , but I am talking about Allied froces bombing and then apologizing for human loss. Disrespecting civilian structure and plain old bombardment

So when our own character is blemished with blood stains who are we to judge the past history and call Hitler a Evil person? Did he not do the exact same thing ?

But if some one is forced to accept - what ever 1 sided history is recorded in record books then so be it ... there is no vocal support for the other side ( if you ban other side from debate) how can you really call the stroy reflective of a true picture of that time.

Studying ww2 is also a subject in most universities, but one has to have a brain and reason in order to really uncover the atrocities of past conflict so future conflicts can be avoided.


Here is a passage which shows Ghandhi's view on WW2
"Gandhi was criticized by some Congress party members and other Indian political groups, both pro-British and anti-British. Some felt that not supporting Britain more in its life or death struggle against the evil of Nazism was unethical. Others felt that Gandhi's refusal for India to participate in the war was insufficient and more direct opposition should be taken, while Britain fought against Nazism yet continued to contradict itself by refusing to grant India Independence. Quit India became the most forceful movement in the history of the struggle, with mass arrests and violence on an unprecedented scale. Thousands of freedom fighters were killed or injured by police gunfire, and hundreds of thousands were arrested. Gandhi and his supporters made it clear they would not support the war effort unless India were granted immediate independence. He even clarified that this time the movement would not be stopped if individual acts of violence were committed, saying that the "ordered anarchy" around him was "worse than real anarchy." He called on all Congressmen and Indians to maintain discipline via ahimsa, and Karo Ya Maro ("Do or Die") in the cause of ultimate freedom."

Again if you view the history thru eyes of our leaders from that past we can see -
THEY SAW... what was going on , yet they did not blindly supported the view point that person xyx is evil - etc .... the information they had was less polluted the when we have now , now we have hollywood movies, writers and authors , writing fictions and also adding in flare , love stories and this and that - it has become an art to criticize Hitler
Think about it if he was such a devil - why did india's most prominet leader say NO ... to helping british Raj?? Does that means the stories we hear now are a bit more ... "MADE UP" or spiced up.... why did people back they from India (Paksitan/India/Bangladesh/Afghanistan) did not rejected Britain?

QUICK FACTS:
->BRITAIN WAS FIRST COUNTRY TO USE POISON GAS
->BRITAIN WAS ALSO ONE OF FIRST COUNTRIES TO USE CHLORINE GAS
->US used WMD on Japan (when war was practically over)
->US used WMD on Japan again (when war was practically over)

And who controled the world with cannons from 1800 on ward and enslave nations it was surely not the Germans -

Don't believe what you see , you need to debate and analyse data coming thru from all angles to create a view point

Does it not amazes you that great leaders from that time - SAW THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY then what we see - the differece is we get our knowledge now thur books written by biased historians who tell the story from 1 view point only - but our old leaders who got us freedom they looked beyond that they saw and heard stories
and they worked hard to get our freedom back....they did not bought the stories Now we on other hand we get our knowledge thru the media ad the media shapes our views and understading... but I find it facinating if Hitler was such a bad person why did our own leaders Ghandi (Indian congress party ) and pretty much did not bother to fight him ??? You should think about it sometime

The most recent example is how Saddam was created into this "Monster" yet 6-10 years ago the same guy was eating stake dinner with Rumsfield , and drinking tea in a tent.. etc so if media/writers ca demonize Saddam before our eyes of course they will make up stories to also demonize Hitler , otherwise how can all the allied forces killings can be justified?

Now we read the VIEW how evil such and such , but wait a second our own leaders did not care back then??Why becasue they were smart to see the big picture ...NOW of course history is polluted with stories from just 1 view point but if one analyses actions of leaders in past you can see what was going on
 
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