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The problem is you hear all BS the list is not by me but Wikipedia and thats no BS

I am proud of this :-

Sushil Kumar Sharma, Ex-Hindu Priest, India Converted to Islam

Returning to his room after praying the Isha prayer[1], Abdur Rahman, 42, an Indian national, sits down with a pen and a mind full of thoughts. He is writing the story of his life, “Pandit bane Musalmaan” (Hindu priest becomes Muslim) in his mother tongue, Hindi.
Sushil Kumar Sharma, Ex-Hindu Priest, India - The Religion of Islam

You guys said all low life convert to Islam so now a Hindu pandit is also a low life?

U guys r truly racist.
show me from neutral source.. these sites are fraudulent.. neutral source
 
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i find some funny thing .
Why Are Muslims So Backward?
Nafisa, a friend, forwarded the following e-mail to me recently. It was one of those e-mails called junk that fly about on the Internet. While I merely chuckle after reading such mails, this one is so hautingly true and real that I felt strong enough about it as to reproduce it here as food for thought for my readers. We’ll conclude it next week and then I’ll answer the above question. Meanwhile, read. And think.

Happy 1430 Hijrah!
Happy? But the situation in the Muslim world is still sad as it was 500 years ago. Global influence and power have shifted to the Christian world - and have remained there ever since. The following figures speak for themselves. They are extracts of a speech delivered by Hafez A.B. Mohamed, Director-General of Al Baraka Bank.

Demographics:
o World Jewish population: 14 million
o Distribution: 7m in America
5m in Asia
2m in Europe
100 thousands in Africa
o World Muslim population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: 1 billion in Asia/Mid-East
400m in Africa
44m in Europe
6m in the Americas

o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1.5 billion Muslims...
Why..?
Here are some of the reasons.

Movers of Recent History
o Albert Einstein - Jewish
o Sigmund Freud - Jewish
o Karl Marx - Jewish
o Paul Samuelson - Jewish
o Milton Friedman - Jewish

Medical Milestones
o Vaccination needle: Benjamin Ruben - Jewish
o Polio vaccine: Jonas Salk - Jewish
o Leukaemia drug: Gertrude Elion - Jewish
o Hepatitis B: Baruch Blumberg - Jewish
o Syphilis drug: Paul Ehrlich - Jewish
o Neuro muscular: Elie Metchnikoff - Jewish
o Endocrinology: Andrew Schally - Jewish
o Cognitive therapy: Aaron Beck - Jewish
o Contraceptive pill: Gregory Pincus - Jewish
o Understanding of human eye: G. Wald - Jewish
o Embryology: Stanley Cohen - Jewish
o Kidney dialysis: Willem Kloffcame - Jewish

Nobel Prize Winners
In the past 105 years, the 14 million Jews have won 180 Nobel prizes whilst the 1.5 billion Muslims have achieved only 3 Nobel winners.

Inventions that changed History
o Micro-processing chip: Stanley Mezor - Jewish
o Nuclear chain reactor: Leo Sziland - Jewish
o Optical fibre cable: Peter Schultz - Jewish
o Traffic lights: Charles Adler - Jewish
o Stainless steel: Benno Strauss - Jewish
o Sound movies: Isador Kisee - Jewish
o Telephone microphone: Emile Berliner - Jewish
o Video tape recorder: Charles Ginsburg - Jewish

Influential Global Businesses
o Polo: Ralph Lauren - Jewish
o Coca-Cola: - Jewish
o Levi’s: Levi Strauss - Jewish
o Starbuck’s: Howard Schultz - Jewish
o Google: Sergey Brin - Jewish
o Dell Computers: Michael Dell - Jewish
o Oracle Computers: Larry Ellison: - Jewish
o DKNY: Donna Karan - Jewish
o Baskin Robbins: Irv Robbins - Jewish
o Dunkin’ Donuts: Bill Rosenberg - Jewish

Influential Policy-makers/Politicians
o Henry Kissinger, US Secretary of State - Jewish
o Richard Levin, President of Yale University - Jewish
o Alan Greenspan, Chairman of US Federal Reserve (i.e. Central Bank) - Jewish
o Joseph Lieberman, US Senator - Jewish
o Madeleine Albright, US Secretary of State - Jewish
o CasperWeinberger, US Secretary of Defence - Jewish
o Maxim Litvinov, USSR Foreign Minister - Jewish
o David Marshal, Singapore Chief Minister - Jewish
o Isaac Isaacs, Governor-General of Australia - Jewish
o Benjamin Disraeli, British statesman - Jewish
o Yevgeny Primakov, Russian PM - Jewish
o Barry Goldwater, US politician - Jewish
o Jorge Sampaio, President of Portugal - Jewish
o Herb Gray, Canadian Deputy PM - Jewish
o Pierre Mendes, French PM - Jewish
o Michael Howard, British Home Secretary - Jewish
o Bruno Kriesky, Austrian Chancellor - Jewish
o Robert Rubin, US Secretary of Treasury - Jewish

Global Media Figures
o Wolf Blitzer, CNN - Jewish
o Barbara Walters, ABC News - Jewish
o Eugene Meyer, Washington Post - Jewish
o Henry Grunwald, Time magazine - Jewish
o Katherine Graham, Washington Post publisher - Jewish
o Joseph Lelyeld, New York Times - Jewish
o Max Frankel, New York Times - Jewish

Global Philanthropists
o George Soros - Jewish
o Walter Annenberg - Jewish

Education/Literacy
o In the entire Muslim world (57 Muslim countries) there are only 500 universities
o In USA alone, 5,758 universities
o In India alone, 8,407 universities

Not one university in the entire Islamic World features in the Top 500 Ranking Universities of the World.

o Literacy in the Christian world - 90%
o Literacy in the Muslim world - 40%

•15 Christian-majority countries’ literacy rate - 100%,
•Muslim-majority countries with 100% - None;
•98% in Christian countries completed primary education,
•Only 50% in Muslim countries completed primary education;
•40% in Christian countries attended university,
•In Muslim countries, a dismal 2% attended university;
•Muslim-majority countries have 230 scientists per million,
•The USA has 5,000 per million;
•The Christian world - 1,000 technicians per million,
•Entire Arab world - only 50 technicians per million;
•Muslim world spending on R&D - 0.2% of GDP,
•Christian world’s R&D - 5.0% of GDP.
Another way of testing the degree of knowledge is the degree of diffusing knowledge:•Pakistan: 23 daily newspapers per 1,000 citizens,
•Singapore: 460 per 1,000 citizens.
•UK book titles per million is 2,000.
•Egypt book titles per million is only 17.
The Muslim World is failing to diffuse knowledge.
Applying knowledge is another such test.
•Exports of high-tech products from Pakistan: 0.9%
•In Saudi Arabia: only 0.2%
•Kuwait, Morocco and Algeria: only 0.3%
•Tiny Singapore (4mil pop.): 68% ...!

...What I Think

Facts, it is said, do not lie. The above facts and figures, as well as the ones we published in this space last week, are proof enough that the 14 million Jews of this world have surpassed the Muslim (millions of whom are their cousins) in worldly accomplishments. From science to policy-making and politics, from inventions that changed history, to philanthropy, publishing and global business, the comparatively minority Jews have demonstrated greater clout than the Muslims (whose population is put at 1.5 billion). Here, the Jews may be seen in isolation, but their world has become part and parcel of the Christian world even though the duo have different faiths and cultural mores. From some of the reactions I received since last week, it seems that even Christians regard themselves as closer to the Jews than to the Muslims. It can, therefore, be argued that even though the focus of the above list is the Jews, the apparent competition for accomplishment in various human endeavours is strictly between the Judeo-Christian and the Muslim worlds. No doubt, the latter has been left far behind.

The list developed by Hafez A.B. Mohamed, Director-General of Al Baraka Bank, is not exhaustive, though. Many other prominent Jews have not been mentioned, such as CNN’s Larry King and French Prime Minister Sarcozy. Nor is the role being played by the Jews in the life of various countries, such as Nigeria where their companies have built bridges, roads and other structures, as well as their consulting in security matters.

The question then arises: Why are the Jews powerful and why are Muslims powerless? To answer the question, I must stress the fact that I’m not talking about spiritual superiority but achievements in mundane issues. Secondly, I am not saying Muslims did not achieve anything in history. After all, it is a known fact that Muslims had built one of the leading civilisations in world history, with Islam as the fastest growing religion in the largely Judeo-Christian Europe and America. And yes, many Judeo-Christian scientists that have etched their names in the annals of history used the seeds of knowledge and discoveries of early Muslim scientists and astronomers. Moreover, many scientific theories were found in Qur’anic verses.

But why are the Muslims less influential than the Jews and the Christians in the last 500 years? Why do the Muslim nations rely heavily on Western technology and other expertise for their comfort and security, as well as for developing their societies economically and socially? Is there anything like Muslim science and technology today?

Hafez A.B. Mohamed, in his speech, has given us reasons why Muslims are so backward compared to the Jews. In simple term, he summarised the problem thus: “The Muslim world lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.” This does not, I reckon, mean that the Muslims had never produced knowledge; otherwise the accomplishments of early Muslim scholars would not have been possible. The stark reality is that Muslims seem to have ceased producing knowledge. They have, in addition, failed to apply the knowledge that their ancestors had produced. Instead, they have embraced Western expertise, upgrading it to the status of universal knowledge. In contrast, the Chinese, for example, have been applying their pristine knowledge system even as they use the West’s in some respects.

In the e-mail I received last week, Hafez A.B. Mohamed was quoted to have advised Muslims (or was it the view of an e-mailer?) thus: “Please educate yourself and your children. Excuses like lack of money, ability or opening are nothing more than that - excuses. Always promote education, don’t compromise on it. We hate to be weak, illiterate and poor but are we too weak to give our children the opportunity to break the curse?

“Don’t ignore your children’s slightest misguidance from education... and please, for Allah’s sake, don’t use your personal contacts to promote your children in their education. If they fail, let them because it will make them learn the sweetness of success. Remember, if they can’t do it now, they can’t ever.

“With knowledge comes power, and with it even the small can rule over the big. We are world’s biggest but sadly NOT strongest nation... Our opportunity to save all humankind is best through knowledge, creativity, literacy... And nothing else.”

There are other reasons for the Muslims’ backwardness. Muslims are divided on most of the important issues. The ummah has lost its grip on the rope of unity which the Almighty decrees for it to hold fast. Islamic political and religious leaders have created the disunity and ensured that it remains so because they benefit from its fallouts.

Muslims are also averse to self-criticism. A self-reappraisal of Muslim society and attitude is misinterpreted by some as an attack on the religion. This dogma is promoted by some zealots who, in turn, derive benefits from it. The problem is global: from Saudi Arabia to Malaysia and from Canada to Nigeria.

Muslims have no reason to be overtaken by the Jews in human endeavour. We must break the psychological chains that hold us back. Five hundred years of Judeo-Christian ascendancy has created enough reasons to galvanise us to attain greater heights. This is the wake-up call of any serious-minded Muslim. Barack Obama has just announced a new dawn for America. When will the Muslims wake up to their own?
:woot:

Bahaushe Mai Ban Haushi!: Why Are Muslims So Backward?
 
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According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year.
Approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity.

“…there is much that the world can learn from Islam. It is now practiced by one of every four people on Earth.”HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON

"BREAKING NEWS " FOX TV News _ Islam Worlds Most Growing Religion.flv - YouTube

Conclusion
You wanted evidence, you got it. It should now be clear as light that Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. Islam is growing at an incredible speed because it is the religion of truth which offers you the answers to the questions of life and gives you a complete code of life. Don’t just be amazes at the growth of Islam; study it, accept it and practice it.

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You should aim for quality, not quantity.... Contemporary Islam is defunct, it's spiritual empty. What do present day Muslims have to offer Europe? Huge police records? High percent of school dropouts? Or should we talk about the massive social benefits that European Muslims are reaping?
And what of the Muslim world? In every corruption list, Muslim countries rank in the top. The countries often associated with terrorism, sectarian violence, social injustice, intolerance, oppression of women and minorities. Almost every Islamic major city, except for the wealthy oil states, looks like a dump or a war zone, even depriving its citizens of basic needs such as clean water and electricity.

Even in this thread a so called 'moderate' Muslim is abusing another religion, and boosting how much he hates its followers...
 
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so you are equating me with prophet mohammad or with allah?


okay one priest is a crook.. so what.. most of the mullahs preach terror, which is worse? this video says nothing about hinduism

With none.... You are yourself nothing else.....You said other are doing wrong by calling others religion false and yet you do it yourself....... But now you are trying to change the topic......

You should aim for quality, not quantity.... Contemporary Islam is defunct, it's spiritual empty. What do present day Muslims have to offer Europe? Huge police records? High percent of school dropouts? Or should we talk about the massive social benefits that European Muslims are reaping?
And what of the Muslim world? In every corruption list, Muslim countries rank in the top. The countries often associated with terrorism, sectarian violence, social injustice, intolerance, oppression of women and minorities. Almost every Islamic major city, except for the wealthy oil states, looks like a dump or a war zone, even depriving its citizens of basic needs such as clean water and electricity.

Even in this thread a so called 'moderate' Muslim is abusing another religion, and boosting how much he hates its followers...

Anyone would say the same about other religion........ many have found spiritual happiness in Islam.... Other than this statement i do agree on most of the post. But also mind muslims themselve are not the only one who are responsible for terrorism, warzone etc....
 
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i said most people are lowlife.. if out of 12 million converts 11.9 millions are lowlifes there is still a few thousands who are ok. so maybe he falls in that .
btw that yahya khan converted to islam to take revenge on one of the invaders (ghori i think) and poiseoned him.. lol..

11.9 millions are lowlifes? where u got this figure from one of ur fraud pandit or ur low life society gave u this info?

so ur logic is if any one converts to Islam is low life?

A.R Rehman Indias best and world top 5th is a low life?

i can also call u all cockroaches but i dont because i am not a low life like u

Muslims ruled India with a soft corner if we did with an Iron fist none of u would have been Hindus or what ever u call ur so called religion.

and we regret that its just 60 or so yrs that u have got the role of leadership and this is how u rule with spiting out venoms

Shameless indians for calling others low life, till today when ever i see a poverty infested country photo sply in the UN its an Indian bagger in some slums.
 
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With none.... You are yourself nothing else.....You said other are doing wrong by calling others religion false and yet you do it yourself....... But now you are trying to change the topic......



Anyone would say the same about other religion........ many have found spiritual happiness in Islam.... Other than this statement i do agree on most of the post. But also mind muslims themselve are not the only one who are responsible for terrorism, warzone etc....

No doubt, a person can find spiritual happiness in Islam. I have no problem with anyone practicing his beliefs on a personal level , but when this happiness involves denying or infringing the rights of others, or these ways hold societies backwards, I do object. It doesn't matter to me, if it these movements are Islamic, Christian or Hinduistic in nature.
 
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i find some funny thing .
Why Are Muslims So Backward?
Nafisa, a friend, forwarded the following e-mail to me recently. It was one of those e-mails called junk that fly about on the Internet. While I merely chuckle after reading such mails, this one is so hautingly true and real that I felt strong enough about it as to reproduce it here as food for thought for my readers. We’ll conclude it next week and then I’ll answer the above question. Meanwhile, read. And think.

Happy 1430 Hijrah!
Happy? But the situation in the Muslim world is still sad as it was 500 years ago. Global influence and power have shifted to the Christian world - and have remained there ever since. The following figures speak for themselves. They are extracts of a speech delivered by Hafez A.B. Mohamed, Director-General of Al Baraka Bank.

Demographics:
o World Jewish population: 14 million
o Distribution: 7m in America
5m in Asia
2m in Europe
100 thousands in Africa
o World Muslim population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: 1 billion in Asia/Mid-East
400m in Africa
44m in Europe
6m in the Americas

o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1.5 billion Muslims...
Why..?
Here are some of the reasons.

Movers of Recent History
o Albert Einstein - Jewish
o Sigmund Freud - Jewish
o Karl Marx - Jewish
o Paul Samuelson - Jewish
o Milton Friedman - Jewish

Medical Milestones
o Vaccination needle: Benjamin Ruben - Jewish
o Polio vaccine: Jonas Salk - Jewish
o Leukaemia drug: Gertrude Elion - Jewish
o Hepatitis B: Baruch Blumberg - Jewish
o Syphilis drug: Paul Ehrlich - Jewish
o Neuro muscular: Elie Metchnikoff - Jewish
o Endocrinology: Andrew Schally - Jewish
o Cognitive therapy: Aaron Beck - Jewish
o Contraceptive pill: Gregory Pincus - Jewish
o Understanding of human eye: G. Wald - Jewish
o Embryology: Stanley Cohen - Jewish
o Kidney dialysis: Willem Kloffcame - Jewish

Nobel Prize Winners
In the past 105 years, the 14 million Jews have won 180 Nobel prizes whilst the 1.5 billion Muslims have achieved only 3 Nobel winners.

Inventions that changed History
o Micro-processing chip: Stanley Mezor - Jewish
o Nuclear chain reactor: Leo Sziland - Jewish
o Optical fibre cable: Peter Schultz - Jewish
o Traffic lights: Charles Adler - Jewish
o Stainless steel: Benno Strauss - Jewish
o Sound movies: Isador Kisee - Jewish
o Telephone microphone: Emile Berliner - Jewish
o Video tape recorder: Charles Ginsburg - Jewish

Influential Global Businesses
o Polo: Ralph Lauren - Jewish
o Coca-Cola: - Jewish
o Levi’s: Levi Strauss - Jewish
o Starbuck’s: Howard Schultz - Jewish
o Google: Sergey Brin - Jewish
o Dell Computers: Michael Dell - Jewish
o Oracle Computers: Larry Ellison: - Jewish
o DKNY: Donna Karan - Jewish
o Baskin Robbins: Irv Robbins - Jewish
o Dunkin’ Donuts: Bill Rosenberg - Jewish

Influential Policy-makers/Politicians
o Henry Kissinger, US Secretary of State - Jewish
o Richard Levin, President of Yale University - Jewish
o Alan Greenspan, Chairman of US Federal Reserve (i.e. Central Bank) - Jewish
o Joseph Lieberman, US Senator - Jewish
o Madeleine Albright, US Secretary of State - Jewish
o CasperWeinberger, US Secretary of Defence - Jewish
o Maxim Litvinov, USSR Foreign Minister - Jewish
o David Marshal, Singapore Chief Minister - Jewish
o Isaac Isaacs, Governor-General of Australia - Jewish
o Benjamin Disraeli, British statesman - Jewish
o Yevgeny Primakov, Russian PM - Jewish
o Barry Goldwater, US politician - Jewish
o Jorge Sampaio, President of Portugal - Jewish
o Herb Gray, Canadian Deputy PM - Jewish
o Pierre Mendes, French PM - Jewish
o Michael Howard, British Home Secretary - Jewish
o Bruno Kriesky, Austrian Chancellor - Jewish
o Robert Rubin, US Secretary of Treasury - Jewish

Global Media Figures
o Wolf Blitzer, CNN - Jewish
o Barbara Walters, ABC News - Jewish
o Eugene Meyer, Washington Post - Jewish
o Henry Grunwald, Time magazine - Jewish
o Katherine Graham, Washington Post publisher - Jewish
o Joseph Lelyeld, New York Times - Jewish
o Max Frankel, New York Times - Jewish

Global Philanthropists
o George Soros - Jewish
o Walter Annenberg - Jewish

Education/Literacy
o In the entire Muslim world (57 Muslim countries) there are only 500 universities
o In USA alone, 5,758 universities
o In India alone, 8,407 universities

Not one university in the entire Islamic World features in the Top 500 Ranking Universities of the World.

o Literacy in the Christian world - 90%
o Literacy in the Muslim world - 40%

•15 Christian-majority countries’ literacy rate - 100%,
•Muslim-majority countries with 100% - None;
•98% in Christian countries completed primary education,
•Only 50% in Muslim countries completed primary education;
•40% in Christian countries attended university,
•In Muslim countries, a dismal 2% attended university;
•Muslim-majority countries have 230 scientists per million,
•The USA has 5,000 per million;
•The Christian world - 1,000 technicians per million,
•Entire Arab world - only 50 technicians per million;
•Muslim world spending on R&D - 0.2% of GDP,
•Christian world’s R&D - 5.0% of GDP.
Another way of testing the degree of knowledge is the degree of diffusing knowledge:•Pakistan: 23 daily newspapers per 1,000 citizens,
•Singapore: 460 per 1,000 citizens.
•UK book titles per million is 2,000.
•Egypt book titles per million is only 17.
The Muslim World is failing to diffuse knowledge.
Applying knowledge is another such test.
•Exports of high-tech products from Pakistan: 0.9%
•In Saudi Arabia: only 0.2%
•Kuwait, Morocco and Algeria: only 0.3%
•Tiny Singapore (4mil pop.): 68% ...!

...What I Think

Facts, it is said, do not lie. The above facts and figures, as well as the ones we published in this space last week, are proof enough that the 14 million Jews of this world have surpassed the Muslim (millions of whom are their cousins) in worldly accomplishments. From science to policy-making and politics, from inventions that changed history, to philanthropy, publishing and global business, the comparatively minority Jews have demonstrated greater clout than the Muslims (whose population is put at 1.5 billion). Here, the Jews may be seen in isolation, but their world has become part and parcel of the Christian world even though the duo have different faiths and cultural mores. From some of the reactions I received since last week, it seems that even Christians regard themselves as closer to the Jews than to the Muslims. It can, therefore, be argued that even though the focus of the above list is the Jews, the apparent competition for accomplishment in various human endeavours is strictly between the Judeo-Christian and the Muslim worlds. No doubt, the latter has been left far behind.

The list developed by Hafez A.B. Mohamed, Director-General of Al Baraka Bank, is not exhaustive, though. Many other prominent Jews have not been mentioned, such as CNN’s Larry King and French Prime Minister Sarcozy. Nor is the role being played by the Jews in the life of various countries, such as Nigeria where their companies have built bridges, roads and other structures, as well as their consulting in security matters.

The question then arises: Why are the Jews powerful and why are Muslims powerless? To answer the question, I must stress the fact that I’m not talking about spiritual superiority but achievements in mundane issues. Secondly, I am not saying Muslims did not achieve anything in history. After all, it is a known fact that Muslims had built one of the leading civilisations in world history, with Islam as the fastest growing religion in the largely Judeo-Christian Europe and America. And yes, many Judeo-Christian scientists that have etched their names in the annals of history used the seeds of knowledge and discoveries of early Muslim scientists and astronomers. Moreover, many scientific theories were found in Qur’anic verses.

But why are the Muslims less influential than the Jews and the Christians in the last 500 years? Why do the Muslim nations rely heavily on Western technology and other expertise for their comfort and security, as well as for developing their societies economically and socially? Is there anything like Muslim science and technology today?

Hafez A.B. Mohamed, in his speech, has given us reasons why Muslims are so backward compared to the Jews. In simple term, he summarised the problem thus: “The Muslim world lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.” This does not, I reckon, mean that the Muslims had never produced knowledge; otherwise the accomplishments of early Muslim scholars would not have been possible. The stark reality is that Muslims seem to have ceased producing knowledge. They have, in addition, failed to apply the knowledge that their ancestors had produced. Instead, they have embraced Western expertise, upgrading it to the status of universal knowledge. In contrast, the Chinese, for example, have been applying their pristine knowledge system even as they use the West’s in some respects.

In the e-mail I received last week, Hafez A.B. Mohamed was quoted to have advised Muslims (or was it the view of an e-mailer?) thus: “Please educate yourself and your children. Excuses like lack of money, ability or opening are nothing more than that - excuses. Always promote education, don’t compromise on it. We hate to be weak, illiterate and poor but are we too weak to give our children the opportunity to break the curse?

“Don’t ignore your children’s slightest misguidance from education... and please, for Allah’s sake, don’t use your personal contacts to promote your children in their education. If they fail, let them because it will make them learn the sweetness of success. Remember, if they can’t do it now, they can’t ever.

“With knowledge comes power, and with it even the small can rule over the big. We are world’s biggest but sadly NOT strongest nation... Our opportunity to save all humankind is best through knowledge, creativity, literacy... And nothing else.”

There are other reasons for the Muslims’ backwardness. Muslims are divided on most of the important issues. The ummah has lost its grip on the rope of unity which the Almighty decrees for it to hold fast. Islamic political and religious leaders have created the disunity and ensured that it remains so because they benefit from its fallouts.

Muslims are also averse to self-criticism. A self-reappraisal of Muslim society and attitude is misinterpreted by some as an attack on the religion. This dogma is promoted by some zealots who, in turn, derive benefits from it. The problem is global: from Saudi Arabia to Malaysia and from Canada to Nigeria.

Muslims have no reason to be overtaken by the Jews in human endeavour. We must break the psychological chains that hold us back. Five hundred years of Judeo-Christian ascendancy has created enough reasons to galvanise us to attain greater heights. This is the wake-up call of any serious-minded Muslim. Barack Obama has just announced a new dawn for America. When will the Muslims wake up to their own?
:woot:

Bahaushe Mai Ban Haushi!: Why Are Muslims So Backward?

Please also read about Al razi, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd etc , uptill 1500AD you could not find any europian scientist.Present Modren science and development is based on muslim scientists research.

15 Famous Muslim (Arab & Persian) Scientists and their Inventions | Science Blog
 
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Please also read about Al razi, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd etc , uptill 1500AD you could not find any europian scientist.Present Modren science and development is based on muslim scientists research.

15 Famous Muslim (Arab & Persian) Scientists and their Inventions | Science Blog
please don't live in past .this is 2012 not 4th century .i also post many invention like yoga ,ayurveda ,numerical system and many more who done by hindus but i don't belive to live in past.
 
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You should aim for quality, not quantity.... Contemporary Islam is defunct, it's spiritual empty. What do present day Muslims have to offer Europe? Huge police records? High percent of school dropouts? Or should we talk about the massive social benefits that European Muslims are reaping?
And what of the Muslim world? In every corruption list, Muslim countries rank in the top. The countries often associated with terrorism, sectarian violence, social injustice, intolerance, oppression of women and minorities. Almost every Islamic major city, except for the wealthy oil states, looks like a dump or a war zone, even depriving its citizens of basic needs such as clean water and electricity.

Even in this thread a so called 'moderate' Muslim is abusing another religion, and boosting how much he hates its followers...

Unfortunately its easy to call others names let me open ur eyes:-

Top 40 countries with highest Crime rate in the history of man kind

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Prison population

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The above list are all Non muslim countries with the Highest crime rates

The amount of crime committed in New York alone in 1 week is equil or less then total crime committed in 7 years in Saudia.(FBI Fact book).

stop pointing finger and look how deep u r in.
 
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11.9 millions are lowlifes? where u got this figure from one of ur fraud pandit or ur low life society gave u this info?

so ur logic is if any one converts to Islam is low life?

A.R Rehman Indias best and world top 5th is a low life?

i can also call u all cockroaches but i dont because i am not a low life like u

Muslims ruled India with a soft corner if we did with an Iron fist none of u would have been Hindus or what ever u call ur so called religion.

and we regret that its just 60 or so yrs that u have got the role of leadership and this is how u rule with spiting out venoms

Shameless indians for calling others low life, till today when ever i see a poverty infested country photo sply in the UN its an Indian bagger in some slums.
hey don't post bs a.r. rahman is sufi muslim and he is not typical muslim (i think muic is ban in islam and sufi muslims are not orignal muslims).and his sister marry to hindus .and one more thing slum indians won more nobel prize than 1.6 billion rich and smart muslims.
 
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No doubt, a person can find spiritual happiness in Islam. I have no problem with anyone practicing his beliefs on a personal level , but when this happiness involves denying or infringing the rights of others, or these ways hold societies backwards, I do object. It doesn't matter to me, if it these movements are Islamic, Christian or Hinduistic in nature.

The current laws in muslim countries does not necessarily means they are orders from Islam...... To point out Islam as such you should read it first and then decide.
 
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Unfortunately its easy to call others names let me open ur eyes:-

Top 40 countries with highest Crime rate in the history of man kind

0105129.gif


Prison population

prison.PNG


The above list are all Non muslim countries with the Highest crime rates

The amount of crime committed in New York alone in 1 week is equil or less then total crime committed in 7 years in Saudia.(FBI Fact book).

stop pointing finger and look how deep u r in.

Calling names? Where did I do such a thing? :D

How does your post have any relevance to which I stated earlier? Looks like you entirely missed the drift of my post.

On the side note, if anything, this data tell us that non-Muslim societies have better record keeping of things and keep their criminals in check by better law enforcement, while in Muslim societies most criminals roam around freely (some even becoming head of state!).;)
 
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Calling names? Where did I do such a thing? :D

How does your post have any relevance to which I stated earlier? Looks like you entirely missed the drift of my post.

On the side note, if anything, this data tell us that non-Muslim societies have better record keeping of things and keep their criminals in check by better law enforcement, while in Muslim societies most criminals roam around freely (some even becoming head of state!).;)

These statistics are internationally taken all countries were accounted.

u claimed You should aim for quality, not quantity for the% of Muslims, i just showed u the quality of criminal products coming out from non Muslim countries.

India has the highest number of cases against its head of state and all are non muslims
ur points fail every time.

I say again stop pointing finger and look how deep u r in.
 
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These statistics are internationally taken all countries were accounted.

u claimed You should aim for quality, not quantity for the% of Muslims, i just showed u the quality of criminal products coming out from non Muslim countries.

India has the highest number of cases against its head of state and all are non muslims
ur points fail every time.


I say again stop pointing finger and look how deep u r in.
hey united in india 40% criminals in jail are muslims and their population is only 13.4%.
Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
most curropted countries are muslims.
 
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