Hindu militants in Kashmir insurgency killed

[karan.1970]

Again, you have a problem comprehending basic English. The article mentions 'alias', meaning a fake identity, not a real one. They used their 'aliases' (Muslim names) inside the HuM. They were Hindu fighters, & there was no conversion. Read the article carefully.

The Kashmir is not a Muslim or Hindu cause. It is a Kashmiri cause.

actually its not.. Its a Hindu Muslim thing in Kashmir to a large extent as religion is the plank used by Pakistan to instigate trouble in Jammu and Kashmir

 

[karan.1970]

I dont understand the point of this article. 4 Hindu Ultras killed in 22 years.. And??

 

[53fd]

actually its not.. Its a Hindu Muslim thing in Kashmir to a large extent as religion is the plank used by Pakistan to instigate trouble in Jammu and Kashmir

I do not deny that Kashmir has a large Muslim component to it today. But you forget that there was no Muslim component to it before the 90s, & Kashmir has been an issue since 1947.

 

[53fd]

I dont understand the point of this article. 4 Hindu Ultras killed in 22 years.. And??

If there are 4 Hindu militant commanders of Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, suppose how many more Hindus are present in the organization that are unaccounted for.

 

[karan.1970]

I do not deny that Kashmir has a large Muslim component to it today. But you forget that there was no Muslim component to it before the 90s, & Kashmir has been an issue since 1947.

No muslim component before 90's?? Its not that Muslims migrated to Jammu and Kashmir in 1990's.. And from the time of independence, the whole story has been on the religion based on which Pakistan questioned the legal accession of Kashmir by its maharaja to India..

 

[Desert Fox]

first of all they were not hindus. they had converted to islam. secondly 3 or 4 hindus out of 1 billion do not make any sense at all.

Kashmir population is not 1 billion, if you were talking in context to indians population then your wrong again as Kashmir is not a part of india Kashmir is a disputed territory and does not have a international border but rather LoC (Line of Control).

 

[53fd]

No muslim component before 90's?? Its not that Muslims migrated to Jammu and Kashmir in 1990's.. And from the time of independence, the whole story has been on the religion based on which Pakistan questioned the legal accession of Kashmir by its maharaja to India..

Correction: The Kashmiri movement did not have an Islamic component to it before the 90s. It was a fairly secular movement comprising of a majority of Muslims, fighting for Kashmiri nationalism, rather than on the basis of Islam. The JKLF is a good example of that.

 

[karan.1970]

If there are 4 Hindu militant commanders of Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, suppose how many more Hindus are present in the organization that are unaccounted for.

Could be 100, 400.. whatever or may be none.. Immaterial actually.. Since the target of Security forces in not Hindus or Muslims, but the terrorists. In an encounter, the CRPF does not first interview the surrounded terrorist about his religion.

 

[somebozo]

The indian bigotted police and politicians fail to see that freedom is an aspiration of all Kashmirs regardless of religion.

 

[karan.1970]

Correction: The Kashmiri movement did not have an Islamic component to it before the 90s. It was a fairly secular movement comprising of a majority of Muslims, fighting for Kashmiri nationalism, than on the basis of Islam. The JKLF is a good example of that.

Buddy, you lost me there.. As I said, the whole discussion of Kashmir has been based on religion only.. Name a few non muslim Kashmiri separatists who had been advocating merger with Pakistan ??

 

[karan.1970]

The indian bigotted police and politicians fail to see that freedom is an aspiration of all Kashmirs regardless of religion.

Make up your mind. Are you contesting on the aspirations of freedom plank or the issue of disputed land between India and Pakistan. Because if its the 1st, then Balochistan etc can be thrown in the mix. Aspirations of freedom have nothing to do with the disputed status and UN resolutions. UN resolution is to decide who gets Kashmir. Independence is not an option in that resolution.

 

[53fd]

Buddy, you lost me there.. As I said, the whole discussion of Kashmir has been based on religion only.. Name a few non muslim Kashmiri separatists who had been advocating merger with Pakistan ??

The point is not about merging with Pakistan, but about those insurgents that are part of the insurgency, which can also mean those advocating an independent state. You said the Kashmir insurgency is fueled by religion only, but this article claims otherwise. History also states that religion was not a factor in fueling the Kashmir insurgency prior to the 90s. If the religion aspect is not true, it can imply that these insurgencies are fueled by genuine grievances of the people, no?

 

[karan.1970]

The point is not about merging with Pakistan, but about those insurgents that are part of the insurgency, which can also mean those advocating an independent state. You said the Kashmir insurgency is fueled by religion only, but this article claims otherwise. If the religion aspect is not true, it can imply that these insurgencies are fueled by genuine grievances of the people, no?

4 out of some 20000 terrorists killed in 2 decades being Hindu does not even statistically back the claim of insurgency being across religions

And actually the article claims exactly the opposite. It talks about the lure of the power of gun driving misguided youth to go in this direction

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

A terrorist is a terrorist.. Hindu or Muslim does not matter. This is not a war between Hindus and Muslims, but between India and Pakistan.

its a war between foreign forces and local Kashmiris

 

[53fd]

4 out of some 20000 terrorists killed in 2 decades being Hindu does not even statistically back the claim of insurgency being across religions

Again, these are the only 4 that are known about. They were commanders of the HuM too, not just some ordinary ranking fighters. Implying that there are a lot of lower level Hindu fighters as well. History has shown that religion was not the factor that drove the Kashmir insurgency prior to the 90s. The JKLF, for example, was not an Islamist insurgency, but one based on Kashmiri nationalism.