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Nice reply l:woot:



I hope you meant the political and economical mainstream only

Yup, I agree with you, cultures and tradition of North-Easterns should be preserved and that is related to economic and political mainstream only.

And thanks for liking my comment Bangladesh existence is based on Bengali nationalism and all non-Bengali groups are not the part of that. That's why I took the name of CHT.

Anyway, can you tell me why Dimapur-Kohima rail project is getting delayed so much.
 
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People of north east are very patriotic. Many of my friends are from Assam, Nagaland and Manipur. Their contribution to India's security build up is no less than anyone else.
 
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@ post 14 : what is CHT?
Chittagong Hill tract, the south eastern hilly area of bangladesh, adjoinig our mizoram , inhabited by indeginous people(read north east like people)called as chakma and some other tribes, buddhism by religion, have been fighting for rights of their land.

Dimapur-Kohima rail project is getting delayed so much
Don`t know the details but the villagers have not reached at any consensus on land prices. They belive the price offered by Railway is too little going by the revenue earned by dimapur station.Singur like situation perhaps.this blog might shed some light ::MyDimapur.com - Dimapur Online | News | Information | Forums | Music | Gallery | Videos and more
 
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That happens in CHT.

No it does not. The tribesmen have rejected Indian allurements and are now totally integrated. Only a handful are maintained by Indian Intel. Reasons:
a. The tribesmen enjoy good perks, job opportunities, education quota, tax -free benefit, etc. In fact in terms of employment and literacy they are ahead of the plains people.
b. It is now known that their leader Manobendra Narayan Larma, who was a socialist, has grown wary of the Indians, and was ultimately gunned down in a plot hatched by Indian Intel.
c. They got quite disillusioned seeing the condition of tribesmen in NE being tortured and ill-treated by Indians, whom they call foreigners. In contrast here in BD we look after them well.
 
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No it does not. The tribesmen have rejected Indian allurements and are now totally integrated. Only a handful are maintained by Indian Intel. Reasons:
a. The tribesmen enjoy good perks, job opportunities, education quota, tax -free benefit, etc. In fact in terms of employment and literacy they are ahead of the plains people.
b. It is now known that their leader Manobendra Narayan Larma, who was a socialist, has grown wary of the Indians, and was ultimately gunned down in a plot hatched by Indian Intel.
c. They got quite disillusioned seeing the condition of tribesmen in NE being tortured and ill-treated by Indians, whom they call foreigners. In contrast here in BD we look after them well.

Your country's existence is based on Bengali nationalism, how come Chakma or other Non-Bengali groups are the part of that Nationalism. Apart from that those people of CHT facing ethnic cleansing by Bengali immigrants. So, your claims of patriotic people of CHT sounds joke to me.
 
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Your country's existence is based on Bengali nationalism, how come Chakma or other Non-Bengali groups are the part of that Nationalism. Apart from that those people of CHT facing ethnic cleansing by Bengali immigrants. So, your claims of patriotic people of CHT sounds joke to me.

CHT was given to Pakistan. Not India.

Chittagong Hill tract, the south eastern hilly area of bangladesh, adjoinig our mizoram , inhabited by indeginous people(read north east like people)called as chakma and some other tribes, buddhism by religion, have been fighting for rights of their land.

Not anymore. The Shanti Bahini were destroyed a long time ago. And army presence have been going down and going down further now.

But nice try from you guys though :azn:
 
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Did we ever claim CHT. I was just talking do people of CHT fit in Bengali nationalism.

Indian leaders were expecting to have CHT as a part of India during the partition plans.

Being given to Pakistan in the end, that led to a lot butthurt sentiments. The one reason why India supported the Shanti Bahini insurgency.

In fact, the people of CHT never even wanted to be a part of India. They wanted to be with Pakistan.

I am from Chittagong myself, and CHT will always remain as an integral part of today's Bangladesh. And the hill people are doing well for themselves for the most part.
 
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Indian leaders were expecting to have CHT as a part of India during the partition plans.

Being given to Pakistan in the end, that led to a lot butthurt sentiments. The one reason why India supported the Shanti Bahini insurgency.

In fact, the people of CHT never even wanted to be a part of India. They wanted to be with Pakistan.

I am from Chittagong myself, and CHT will always remain as an integral part of today's Bangladesh. And the hill people are doing well for themselves for the most part.

If India would have wanted CHT in India, they would have done so like we did with Junagarh even when it merged with Pakistan. And forget CHT, it was Bangladeshi who first started illegal immigration into Assam just after getting independence in 1970s. Illegal Bangladeshi immigration was the reason for AASU anti-immigration movement and 30 yrs long insurgency in the State and census was not done in Assam in 1981 due to disturbance. Your illegal immigrants have annoyed us too and when our troops shoots those illegal immigrants at borders, honestly speaking we Indians feel no mercy for them.

So, please don't try to play innocence card. We know that how innocent you guys are.
 
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If India would have wanted CHT in India, they would have done so like we did with Junagarh even when it merged with Pakistan. And forget CHT, it was Bangladeshi who first started illegal immigration into Assam just after getting independence in 1970s. Illegal Bangladeshi immigration was the reason for AASU anti-immigration movement and 30 yrs long insurgency in the State and census was not done in Assam in 1981 due to disturbance. Your illegal immigrants have annoyed us too and when our troops shoots those illegal immigrants at borders, honestly speaking we Indians feel no mercy for them.

So, please don't try to play innocence card. We know that how innocent you guys are.

lol...drama queen :rofl:

And just where did illegal immigration come from? :lol: That's not at all what I was talking about. And if illegal immigration amounts the same as supporting terrorists in another country, then you need some anger management courses.

Both Pakistan and post-liberation Bangladesh were independent sovereign states. India simply can't randomly go around invading other countries. It wasn't a superpower like the US or USSR and it still isn't. It still doesn't have that free ticket to militarily attack other countries UNLESS attacked or threatened first.

Here's something:
Read S-L-O-W-L-Y.
The early history of the Chittagong Hill Tracts, a part of the Chin National Territory, is a record of constantly recurring raids on the part of the eastern hill tribes, and of the operations undertaken to repress them. The earliest mention of these raids is to be found in a letter from the Chief of Chittagong to Warren Hastings, the Governor-General, dated April to, 1777,' complaining of the violence and aggressions of a mountaineer, the leader of a band of Kukis or Lushais ; and that they continued without any long intermission down to 1891 when the Lushai Hills were annexed to British territory. The recorded population increased from 69,607 in 1872 to 101,597 in 1881, to 107,286 in 1891, and to 124,762 in 1901. The Census of 1872 was, however, very imperfect, and the actual growth of population has probably not exceeded what might be expected in a sparsely inhabited but fairly healthy tract.[2] on the time of parthion Chittagong Hill Tracts had a majority non-Muslim population of 97% (most of them Buddhists), ant it was given to Pakistan.
When the 1901 census was taken there were no towns, and 211 of the villages had a population of less than 500, while only one exceeded 2,000. The population density, excluding the area of uninhabited forest (1,385 square miles), was 33 persons per square mile. There was a little immigration from Chittagong, and a few persons had emigrated to Tripura. The proportion of females to every 100 males was only 90 in the district-born, and 83 in the total population. Buddhists numbered 83,000, Hindus 36,000, and Muslims 5,000.[3]
The Chittagong Hill Tracts, combining three hilly districts of Bangladesh, were once known as Korpos Mohol, the name used until 1860. In 1860 it was annexed by the British and was made an administrative district of Bengal. As of today, it is a semi-autonomous region within Bangladesh comprising the districts, namely, Chengmi (Khagrachari District), Gongkabor (Rangamati District), and Arvumi (Bandarban District).
The last Viceroy, Lord Mountbatten, who considered the grant of independence to India as his act of crowning glory, was ambitious to achieve this "superhuman" task in record time. He said that before accepting the post of Viceroy he had told King George VI, who was his cousin: "I am prepared to accept the job only on one condition. India must be granted independence by July, 1948 and I will not stay there a day longer". Mountbatten came to India in March, 1947 and this left him just about sixteen months to complete such a gigantic task. In reality, he achieved it in five months, on 15 August, 1947 for which he was given so much credit.
Originally, the award of the Boundary Commission was to be made public on 13 August. But Mountbatten was reluctant to make this public. According to Philip Ziegler, the author of Mountbatten's official biography, the case of the Chittagong Hill Tracts was uppermost in Mountbatten's mind. "He (Mountbatten) foresaw an Independence Day marred by rancour, Nehru boycotting the ceremonies, India born in an atmosphere not of euphoria but of angry resentment. So Mountbatten decided to announce the award only on 16 August when the celebrations were over. As Zeigler writes, "India's indignation at the award of the Chittagong Hill Tracts to Pakistan may have been a factor in making up Mountbatten's mind to keep the reports to himself till after independence".
Mountbatten was himself surprised by the ferocity of Sardar Patel's reaction to the issue. In his memoirs he wrote: "The one man I had regarded as a real statesman with both his feet firmly on the ground, and a man of honour whose word was his bond, had turned out to be as hysterical as the rest. Candidly I was amazed that such a terrific crisis should have blown up over so small a matter. However, I have been long enough in India to realise that major crises are by no means confined to big matters." Leonard Mosley in his book The Last Days of the British Raj puts it "This is a matter for Mountbatten's conscience.


During the 1970s and 80s, there were attempts by the Government to resettle the area with Bengali people. These attempts were resisted by the tribals, who, with the latent support of neighbouring India, formed a guerilla force called Shanti Bahini. As a result of the tribal resistance movement, successive governments turned the Hill Tracts into a militarised zone. Professor Bernard Nietschmann wrote a letter about Shanti Bahini and the Chittagong Hill Tracts people to the editor of the New York Times by published on October 25, 1986 (archived by the Fourth World Documentation Project) at the Center for World Indigenous Studies website.

Bengali settlers and soldiers have been accused of human rights violations against the tribal minorities, including the massacre of civilians, extrajudicial killings, torture, and, more recently, the imprisonment of non-violent activists.[4] Members of the Shanti Bahini and other rebel groups have committed similar violations, including the massacre of unarmed Bengali settlers.[4]
Following years of unrest, an agreement was formed between the Government of Bangladesh and the tribal leaders which granted a limited level of autonomy to the elected council of the three hill districts.


The 1997 Peace Treaty signed between the then Sheikh Hasina Government and the Jana Shanghati Shamiti or Shanti Bahini has been opposed by the opposition parties as well as a fraction of the tribal rebels[citation needed]. Opposition parties of the time argued that the autonomy granted in the treaty ignored the Bengali settlers. The successive Khaleda Zia government promised to implement the peace treaty, despite their opposition to it during the previous government's term. According to the Ministry of Chittagong Hill Tracts Affairs, a Peace Treaty between the Government of Bangladesh and Parbattya Chattagram Jana Samhati Samiti was signed on 2 December 1997. However, Shanti Bahini rebels kept on committing killings and harassing the Bengali people living in the area. There are many accusations that they get financial help from a foreign country to fight for their freedom.
Chittagong Hill Tracts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chittagong Hill Tracts Conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the original 1989 report by NYT Special:
Bangladeshi Insurgents Say India Is Supporting Them

By SANJOY HAZARIKA, Special to The New York Times
Published: June 11, 1989

For more than a decade, India has secretly provided arms and money to tribal insurgents fighting for an autonomous state in Bangladesh, rebels given sanctuary in this border area say.

A senior security official here confirmed the assistance and said an undetermined number of rebel fighters had stayed along the border near camps of Indian paramilitary forces.

''The Government is giving them help,'' the official added, without elaborating.

The rebels, who are mostly Buddhists, belong to the Chakma and other tribes in the Chittagong Hills of Bangladesh. They say they are being persecuted and pushed off their fertile land by an influx of ethnic Bengali Bangladeshis, who are overwhelmingly Muslim. Elections Are Planned

President H. M. Ershad of Bangladesh is planning to hold elections on June 25 to give some local autonomy to the Chittagong Hill Tracts, but the Shanti Bahini, the guerrilla organization fighting the Government, has called for a boycott of the vote and declared it will disrupt balloting.

A spokesman for the rebels said Indian officials began to provide arms and money in 1976, after the assassination in a military coup of Sheik Mujibur Rahman, Bangladesh's first President and a friend of India.

The spokesman, Bimal Chakma, said the Indian Government had not given as many weapons as were needed. ''At the beginning we got some consideration, but it is very low compared with what we need.''

The Shanti Bahini has an estimated 500 guerrillas. Over the years, the insurgents have increased their armory by capturing weapons through raids on Bangladesh military units. The rebels in the Chittagong Hill Tracts also picked up large caches of Chinese semi-automatic weapons during the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war. Past Help for Pakistani Rebels

India also armed, trained and financed ethnic Bengali rebels seeking to break away from Pakistan, of which Bangladesh, then East Pakistan, was a part. The guerrilla attacks escalated into a war between India and Pakistan in 1971 after 10 million people fled military atrocities into India. Pakistani troops were routed and Bangladesh was created.

The Shanti Bahini, which means peace corps in the Bengali language, was formed in 1972 after a rejection of demands for autonomy, preferential treatment and an end to the Muslim influx. The Shanti Bahini says it has killed more than 500 members of the Bangladeshi military and the police as well as Muslim settlers.
Source: Bangladeshi Insurgents Say India Is Supporting Them - NYTimes.com
 
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