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As the Indian Army reports striking terrorist camps across the border, and a member of Parliament (MP) of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) urges a nuclear attack and the Pakistan defence minister threatens to “annihilate” India in return, these projections, made by researchers from three US universities in 2007, are a reminder of the costs of nuclear war.


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If India and Pakistan fought a war detonating 100 nuclear warheads (around half of their combined arsenal), each equivalent to a 15-kiloton Hiroshima bomb, more than 21 million people will be directly killed, about half the world’s protective ozone layer would be destroyed, and a “nuclear winter” would cripple the monsoons and agriculture worldwide.

As the Indian Army reports striking terrorist camps across the border, and a member of Parliament (MP) of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) urges a nuclear attack and the Pakistan defence minister threatens to “annihilate” India in return, these projections, made by researchers from three US universities in 2007, are a reminder of the costs of nuclear war.
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BJP Rajya Sabha MP Subramanian Swamy said, on 23 September, 2016, that if 100 million Indians died in a Pakistani nuclear attack, India’s retaliation would wipe out Pakistan.

But the real costs would be higher and not just in India and Pakistan, where the first 21 million people–half the death toll of World War II–would perish within the first week from blast effects, burns and acute radiation, according to the 2007 study by researchers from Rutgers University, University of Colorado-Boulder and University of California, Los Angeles, all in the USA.

This death toll would be 2,221 times the number of civilians and security forces killed by terrorists in India over nine years to 2015, according to an IndiaSpend analysis of South Asia Terrorism Portal data.

Another two billion people worldwide would face risks of severe starvation due to the climatic effects of the nuclear-weapon use in the subcontinent, according to this 2013 assessment by the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, a global federation of physicians.

Pakistan has an estimated 110 to 130 nuclear warheads as of 2015–an increase from an estimated 90 to 110 warheads in 2011–according to this report from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, a global disarmament advocacy. India is estimated to have 110 to 120 nuclear warheads.
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Talk of war began after a terrorist attack on an army garrison in the Kashmir town of Uri claimed the lives of 18 Indian soldiers. The Indian Army said the attack was carried out by four terrorists from the Jaish-e-Mohammed (Army of Mohammed) group, based in Pakistan.
Pakistan’s defence minister Khawaja M Asif responded to threats from India by saying, “If Pakistan’s security is threatened, we will not hesitate in using tactical (nuclear) weapons.”

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Pakistan’s nuclear weapons capability has previously deterred India from responding to previous attacks.
“At the end of the day, India has to ensure that the options it exercises–particularly the military ones–do not leave it worse off than before in terms of casualties and costs,” wroteanalyst Manoj Joshi in The Wire.

It does not really matter if India has fewer nuclear weapons than Pakistan, IndiaSpend reportedin April, 2015, primarily because of the doctrine of “mutually assured destruction”, or MAD, as it is commonly known (See this IndiaSpend report for more about India’s nuclear weapons program).
66% Pakistan’s nuclear weapons on ballistic missiles

As many as 66% Pakistani nuclear warheads are mounted on 86 land-based ballistic missiles, according to Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists data estimates.
Pakistan’s Hatf (named after the sword of Prophet Muhammad) series of ballistic missiles has been developed–and is still under development–keeping India in mind.
A major attack by Pakistan’s nuclear-tipped medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs) would likely target India’s four major metropolitan cities–New Delhi, Mumbai, Bengaluru and Chennai (depending on where the missile is fired from), according to Sameer Patil, fellow, national security, ethnic conflict and terrorism at Gateway House, a think tank in Mumbai.

The MRBMs would also target “the major commands of the Indian Army”, Patil told IndiaSpend.

Nearly half (40) of Pakistan’s ballistic missile warheads could be mated to Ghauri (named after 12th-century Afghan king Shahbuddin Ghauri, also known as Muhammad of Ghauri) MRBMs. The missile has a claimed range of 1,300 km and can target Delhi, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Mumbai, Pune, Nagpur, Bhopal and Lucknow, according to this 2006 report on Pakistan’s ballistic missile programme by the National Institute of Advanced Studies (NIAS), Bengaluru.
Pakistan has an estimated eight warheads which could be mated to the Shaheen (Falcon) II. This MRBM has a range of 2,500 km and can target most major Indian cities, including Kolkata on the east coast.

An estimated 16 warheads could be fired atop the short-range Ghaznavi (named after the 11th-century Afghan invader Mahmud Ghazni) ballistic missile. With a range of 270 km to 350 km, it can target Ludhiana, Ahmedabad and the outer perimeter of Delhi.
Pakistan has an estimated 16 nuclear-tipped Shaheen1 (falcon), short-range ballistic missiles (IRBM), having a 750 km range which can reach Ludhiana, Delhi, Jaipur and Ahmedabad.

Pakistan has an estimated six 60-km range Nasr missiles, which could be mated to nuclear weapons. These tactical nuclear missiles could target “advancing battle formations of the Indian Army”, according to Patil. These missiles could be what Asif referred to.

Pakistan also has eight nuclear-tipped 350-km Babur cruise missiles with nuclear warheads.

An estimated 36 nuclear warheads, accounting for 28% of Pakistan’s total, can be delivered using aircraft. US-made F-16 A/B aircraft can deliver 24 nuclear bombs while the French-made Mirage III/V can deliver 12.

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India has deployed 56 Prithvi (earth) and Agni (fire) series of surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, which carry 53% of India’s 106 estimated warheads, according to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.

This doesn’t take into account the estimated 12 warheads for the K-15 Sagarika submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), which India has possibly produced for the nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine INS Arihant.

Once commissioned, Arihant would give India a strategic nuclear triad and second strike capability, as this July 2015 IndiaSpend report notes.
“Given the smaller geographical size of Pakistan,” said Patil, India would likely target “Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Lahore and Karachi and the Pakistani Army Armed Corps headquarters at Nowshera”.

However, he cautioned: “The fallout of the nuclear attacks on Lahore and Karachi, for instance, would not just be restricted to the Pakistani territory, and depending on the wind directions, can affect both Indian and Afghan border territories.”

The 250 km-range Prithvi SRBM acts as a delivery system for 24 of India’s warheads. These are capable of hitting major Pakistani cities, such as Lahore, Sialkot, the capital Islamabad, and Rawalpindi, according to this May 2015 IndiaSpend analysis.

India has 20 nuclear-tipped Agni I SRBM and eight Agni II intermediate range ballistic missiles (IRBMs), with ranges of 700 km and 2,000 km, respectively. These are capable of covering almost all Pakistani cities, including Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Multan, Peshawar, Karachi, Quetta and Gwadar.

Agni III, IV and V, with their longer ranges, might be able to reach all of Pakistan, but it can be safely said that they are directed more towards China.
India also possesses an estimated two ship-launched 350-km range Dhanush SRBM, which could be fitted with nuclear warheads.

India’s aircraft can deliver an estimated 45% of 106 warheads. The Indian Air Force’s Jaguar fighter bombers can deliver about 16 nuclear warheads, while the French-built Mirage-2000 fleet can deliver 32.

Update: This story has been updated to reflect news of Indian strikes in Pakistan.

(Sethi is a Mumbai-based freelance writer and defence analyst.)

The story was first published by IndiaSpend, India’s first data journalism initiative.
 
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it will be even worse, so lets not talk about WAR, lets solve our issues together once and for all and live in harmony .. even North and South Korea has now come close to each other, we both Pakistani's and Indians should be ashamed .
 
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about half the world’s protective ozone layer would be destroyed, and a “nuclear winter” would cripple the monsoons and agriculture worldwide.

:lol::lol::lol:

So if we use 100 15kT bombs, which is just 1.5MT combined, we will see nuclear winter. But when the Russians detonated a 50MT bomb, nothing happened.

Wah, bhai. Logic and common sense RIP.
 
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There is a reason no one will ever attack Pakistan and vice versa, I'm sure.
So, lets resolve the issues.
 
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I not think this is true russia tsar hydrogen bomb was much powerful than our nukes but nothing happened when it is detonated nukes of india and Pakistan are overestimated to create fear in public and world but their affect will last only for few years
 
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about half the world’s protective ozone layer would be destroyed, and a “nuclear winter” would cripple the monsoons and agriculture worldwide.

:lol::lol::lol:

So if we use 100 15kT bombs, which is just 1.5MT combined, we will see nuclear winter. But when the Russians detonated a 50MT bomb, nothing happened.

Wah, bhai. Logic and common sense RIP.
then let’s do it.. kashmir will really to fall like and indan punjab will follow..
 
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Sure. Right after we finish setting up our BMD.
Hyper-sonic Gliders can defeat modern BMD systems; which is why some countries wants to prevent its proliferation. Should Pakistan procure it, the Indian investments in BMD will be for naught. Combined with MIRV Buses carrying decoys to use up the BMD defense will be a cheap way to blunt Indian defenses.

Also if Pakistan operationalize Hydrogen devices with yields from 150-300 kilotons, a single weapon to get through would have the effect of 3-5 lower yield weapons in the 15 kiloton range.

The numbers should be ran again to see what would be the effect of 100 weapons in the 150-300 kiloton range and that should scare the world to stop this standoff episode.
 
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Hyper-sonic Gliders can defeat modern BMD systems; which is why some countries wants to prevent its proliferation. Should Pakistan procure it, the Indian investments in BMD will be for naught. Combined with MIRV Buses carrying decoys to use up the BMD defense will be a cheap way to blunt Indian defenses.

Also if Pakistan operationalize Hydrogen devices with yields from 150-300 kilotons, a single weapon to get through would have the effect of 3-5 lower yield weapons in the 15 kiloton range.

The numbers should be ran again to see what would be the effect of 100 weapons in the 150-300 kiloton range and that should scare the world to stop this standoff episode.

Hypersonic weapons is something Pakistan has to develop on its own. In fact, this is one of those systems that will get put on export control lists, like nukes, SSBNs etc.

Pakistan does not have hydrogen bombs. And no, even 300 or 400kT is not enough. To affect the environment, you need bombs in the megaton range.
 
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Hypersonic weapons is something Pakistan has to develop on its own. In fact, this is one of those systems that will get put on export control lists, like nukes, SSBNs etc.

Pakistan does not have hydrogen bombs. And no, even 300 or 400kT is not enough. To affect the environment, you need bombs in the megaton range.

megaton explosions in a desolate Artic island are different then striking major industrial centers with flammable materials stored there. India's distribution of factories and industrial facilitates in and around its cities will cause massive secondaries. an example of what a smaller event one only has to look at the 2015 Tianjin Explosions from what one industrial disaster can do. just imagine hundreds if not thousands of these in each major city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions


Also Hypersonic gliders need a treaty between the major powers to create an export control. in the mean time, SPD is surely studying it along side its MIRV and Decoy systems. They will find a way to ensure Minimum CREDIBLE deterrence, even if India acquires what ever ABM system it chooses. Finally the investment in the Khushab facilities indicates a shift to hydrogen systems. the hardest part is the material because the government will find a way to get the know how, especially if that keeps India thinking a thousand times, like the current standoff.
 
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Now, Pak and India should form a team and ask for "ozone preservation" fees from the folks with deep pockets...
 
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about half the world’s protective ozone layer would be destroyed, and a “nuclear winter” would cripple the monsoons and agriculture worldwide.

:lol::lol::lol:

So if we use 100 15kT bombs, which is just 1.5MT combined, we will see nuclear winter. But when the Russians detonated a 50MT bomb, nothing happened.

Wah, bhai. Logic and common sense RIP.

You might be interested in some research as to the targets of each of those. While Russian TRAR Bomba was tested over the Arctic Ocean, far away from life; our Nuclear Weapons would be targeting cities and so would cause a lot more damage to people and crops nearby.....whereas they will wreak havoc to nearby nations as well, in a matter of weeks/months.
 
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