Heated debate across the Chinese social media after video of two girls tied up and on knees for breaking covid rules

[beijingwalker]

Google translate:

Today (18th), one of the women suspected of being involved posted a response on Weibo, saying that she was going to pick up takeaway that day, and had a conflict with the relevant personnel because of the loss of the mask of a friend in the same company. At present, the relevant personnel have apologized.

She revealed: "We were not tied because of the masks, but to prevent us from calling 110 （crime reporting number ） and falsely claiming that they had already called 110. My friend and I called 110 and 120 successively. When they saw the police, they took off their blue coats." In order to prevent us from recognizing them.” She also pointed out that the result of the negotiation was that the other party compensated lost wages, medical expenses, and mental damage.

The incident sparked heated discussions, and some netizens questioned that the epidemic prevention personnel were suspected of violating the Constitution, Civil Law and other laws and regulations.

Some netizens questioned: First, if the police with law enforcement powers enforce the law, which law is followed to tie people up and "show the public"? Second, if the two women were not handled by the police, who were involved in the handling? Do they have law enforcement powers? Third, the "Criminal Procedure Law" stipulates that the procuratorate has repeatedly emphasized the prohibition of parading criminals in public, and the "Civil Law" also protects the legitimate rights and interests of citizens. The actions of epidemic prevention personnel are suspected of violating the above-mentioned laws.

Top News quoted a staff member of Guangzhou Haizhu District Public Security Bureau as saying that the matter is being processed.

Hu Xijin, former editor-in-chief of the Global Times, commented on this on Weibo, saying that he believes this is an isolated incident, "but such an individual incident should not happen, it broke the bottom line."

 

[beijingwalker]

People support the action

Google translate
Two women in Guangzhou were subdued by anti-epidemic staff and the bystanders for breaking the covid code

The two women both got yellow codes on their phone's covid app, ( high risk), and one of them did not wear a mask, refused to listen to the advice, and insisted on forcibly entering a lockdown neigborhood. At the beginning, they were dissuaded by the staff, but after they were rejected to enter, the two women spat out their mouths and insulted the staff. According to the video, this is not a verbal conflict, but a unilateral verbal abuse, with vulgar words and arrogance.

Regarding this matter, public opinion was quickly divided into two factions. One side believes that the woman violated the epidemic prevention regulations first, and then insulted the staff, the action taken was appropriate.

The other party believes that even if the woman is morally deficient, or has no quality, and even if the police finally characterize her as provoking trouble, these cannot be the reason for the staff to tie her up. Let’s not talk about whether the staff at the entrance have law enforcement powers, but in terms of binding and kneeling, it may have gone beyond the scope of “stopping”.

The staff argued about "Bound and kneeling", no one forced the woman to kneel, they "deliberately posing for pictures". In fact, most of the time they were "squatting".

 

[IblinI]

The staff argued about "Bound and kneeling", no one forced the woman to kneel, they "deliberately posing for pictures". In fact, most of the time they were "squatting".

Key point, and extreme feminism is behind this so called debate.

 

[beijingwalker]

Police statement released on Weibo

 

[Beast]

These stupid so called liberal woman has no right to insult staff and try force their way just becos things didnt go what they wanted. What happened if these 2 women really has covid and do their way. Are they endangering the public with their behavior.

 

[beijingwalker]

Key point, and extreme feminism is behind this so called debate.

True, some people on social media say that if the offenders are tall , strong guys, the public opinions will change drastically.

 

[beijingwalker]

It seems that in Guangdong it is still summer time where everyone wears short sleeves, in Beijing we are already in freezing winter and people wear down jackets.

 

[Beidou2020]

These liberal feminist women that disobey authority must be ruthlessly crushed. They hate China, they hate CPC, they worship the West, they want China to be colonised by the West.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

Good to see Chinese people , arleast some of them, have managed to keep their human qualities. But if there's a law to wear mask, they should- it is a very small price to pay for Xi and CCP's dumb stand against buying good vaccines for Chinese people. Ccp approved good vaccines for foreigners but consider Chinese people less it'd seem

 

[Viet]

Google translate:

Today (18th), one of the women suspected of being involved posted a response on Weibo, saying that she was going to pick up takeaway that day, and had a conflict with the relevant personnel because of the loss of the mask of a friend in the same company. At present, the relevant personnel have apologized.

She revealed: "We were not tied because of the masks, but to prevent us from calling 110 （crime reporting number ） and falsely claiming that they had already called 110. My friend and I called 110 and 120 successively. When they saw the police, they took off their blue coats." In order to prevent us from recognizing them.” She also pointed out that the result of the negotiation was that the other party compensated lost wages, medical expenses, and mental damage.

The incident sparked heated discussions, and some netizens questioned that the epidemic prevention personnel were suspected of violating the Constitution, Civil Law and other laws and regulations.

Some netizens questioned: First, if the police with law enforcement powers enforce the law, which law is followed to tie people up and "show the public"? Second, if the two women were not handled by the police, who were involved in the handling? Do they have law enforcement powers? Third, the "Criminal Procedure Law" stipulates that the procuratorate has repeatedly emphasized the prohibition of parading criminals in public, and the "Civil Law" also protects the legitimate rights and interests of citizens. The actions of epidemic prevention personnel are suspected of violating the above-mentioned laws.

Top News quoted a staff member of Guangzhou Haizhu District Public Security Bureau as saying that the matter is being processed.

Hu Xijin, former editor-in-chief of the Global Times, commented on this on Weibo, saying that he believes this is an isolated incident, "but such an individual incident should not happen, it broke the bottom line."

That’s brutal.

Whatever they have done, humiliating of women in public is no go.

Shame on chinese men.

 

[Beast]

That’s brutal.

Whatever they have done, humiliating of women in public is no go.

Shame on chinese men.

Looks like USA need to wipe off the earth for such abuse of minority. Shame on american and their lapdogs.

 

[DabbuSardar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593445334977548288

...bad signs..

 

[Dungeness]

LOL, it is only in China such a minor issue could cause "heated debate across the social media". In other part of world, it's just a part of daily life:

 

[beijingwalker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593445334977548288

...bad signs..

Indians should be the last one to comment, beating people is your everyday accepted practice

 

[Mista]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593445334977548288

...bad signs..

Well, it's a huge fiscal burden on the local governments to keep subsidizing for tests especially when revenue is already tanking, resulting in large deficits. Some local governments are already reporting deficits which are more than twice of their revenue.

Local governments have been burdened with increased expenditure as a result of Beijing’s zero-Covid policy, which relies on lockdowns, mass testing and quarantine in government facilities.

Fiscal revenue has also been strained by a slump in the property sector and tax rebates to help virus-hit businesses.

Land sales contributed 8.7 trillion yuan to the coffers of local authorities across China last year, making up 42 per cent of their revenue, excluding funding from the central government.

In the first nine months of the year, China reported a total fiscal deficit of 7.1 trillion yuan (US$972 billion), three times more than the figure last year, government data showed.

The Guizhou government, whose fiscal revenue has traditionally been highly dependent on land sales, has struggled as China’s real estate sector has declined. It reported general budget expenditure of 409 billion yuan in the first three quarters, and a revenue of 125 billion yuan.

If mass testing continues, more local governments could start charging for Covid tests as their revenues decline, but that would also provoke public dissatisfaction, said Peng Peng, executive chairman of the Guangdong Society of Reform.

Goldman Sachs estimated in May that testing 70 per cent of the population every two days would cost as much as US$370 billion, or 2.2 per cent of China’s economic output last year.

Soochow Securities estimated that the cost of regular tests in all first and second-tier cities would cost as much as 1.7 trillion yuan a year, equivalent to 8.7 per cent of public expenditure, or 1.5 per cent of China’s gross domestic product last year.

Estimates put just the testing costs at around RMB1.7tril to USD370bil. For comparison, China's annual defense budget is only around RMB1.45tril.

China plans to raise its annual defense budget by 7.1 percent to 1.45 trillion yuan ($230 billion) for the 2022 fiscal year, its seventh-straight year of single-digit growth, according to a draft budget plan unveiled on Saturday.

China to raise military budget by 7.1% this year

China plans to raise its annual defense budget by 7.1 percent to 1.45 trillion yuan ($230 billion) for the 2022 fiscal year, its seventh-straight year of single-digit growth, according to a draft budget plan unveiled on Saturday.

www.chinadaily.com.cn

That's just testing. What about the cost of quarantine and the diversion of healthcare resources etc?

Frontline medical staff and local government officials also point to worsening strains on the healthcare system as resources are increasingly diverted to pay for pandemic controls.

“Funding and staffing in other departments are now shrinking, many have not been able to purchase new equipment,” said a doctor at a public hospital in central China’s Wuhan city.

There are signs local governments are running out of funds to pay for mandatory quarantine stays.

A local government official in Baoji in western Shaanxi province said anyone returning to the city from an area designated “high risk” for Covid-19 exposure would be held in quarantine for seven days and be responsible for covering the cost.

“If you have a problem paying, we advise you to borrow from your relatives and friends,” the official said.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e3f9397-6745-45a1-ae7b-a1a6f7d7aed4

Obviously it's all unsustainable. People will get more fed up when they have to pay additionally to test and lock up themselves. I don't see this ending well if Xi continues being stubborn with his signature zero-Covid policy.