HBL, NBP offer to invest Rs84b in 1,200MW LNG-based power plant

[Edevelop]

we have nothing against punjab, we just want the federation to give what the provinces should have

I wish all provinces of Pakistan to get the share they are owed but reality is we all know Punjab makes huge amount of population and economy and some people wouldn't like it.

Solution is to make more provinces after next year census and make NFC award fair. So big province vs small province crap can be done with.

Anything ethnic is not the solution. We need to create states or bigger districts.

 

[ziaulislam]

I wish all provinces of Pakistan to get the share they are owed but reality is we all know Punjab makes huge amount of population and economy and some people wouldn't like it.



Anything ethnic is not the solution. We need to create states or bigger districts.

but is not this tue that sindh for example had it been a separate country or Baluchistan had it been a separate country would have been far more richer due to oil and gas they have than punjab for example.
same is true for KPK its producing nearly 4400MW in hydro even in winter well above 1400. same is true for gas and oil KPK is producing more oil and gas than it consumes.
honestly speaking punjab is getting more profit from this realtionship. but still majority of people from other provinces dont think on this line. problem is majority of educated Punjabi think they are doing a favour to us when its other way around.

this is preciously the attitude that made east Pakistan into Bangladesh, they earned money but we used to come up with foolish logic

 

[Dubious]

Because people like you, PPP, ANP, and other nationalist parties will cry a foul and Punjab does it for the interest of Pakistan.

I am a Punjabi but people like you love to label anyone who doesnt agree with you

2ndly, for me Pakistan comes above province and ethnicity something politically active people like you will never understand

If you have a better solution to offer please say it here.

I never said the solution was wrong...I asked is it using KPK's withheld funds and pretending it is chiming in? Did you answer that?

 

[ziaulislam]

See to day news, federal support KPK hydro projects.



Solution is to make more provinces after next year census and make NFC award fair. So big province vs small province crap can be done with.

first of all i belong to hazara and i voted for PML N. my post simply shows whts happening, before i can post anything ggod @cb4 does that any way

second, no they dont atleast that is the head line in every daily newspaper

Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa venture: Swat hydropower project gets govt thumbs down - The Express Tribune

now every body knows that all hydro projects that are planned under private sector costs more than 8rs. even bhashah dam first 9 years is 5 rs

 

[Dubious]

problem is majority of educated Punjabi think they are doing a favour to us when its other way around.

It is a problem in every manipulative runned govt...they leach on you and pretend they are doing you a favour....

Solution is to make more provinces after next year census and make NFC award fair. So big province vs small province crap can be done with.

Lets see who picks up this idea and utilizes it...Lately even GB isnt being recognized....So much power hungry people who are relying on size over patriotism to bully others

 

[ziaulislam]

situation in Baluchistan isnot good, we have lot off state haters there.
sindh its decent.
situation in KPK is so far as good as any where in rest of Pakistan but attitudes might change that. govt needs to pay what they Have to pay and its nothing much. additional 30-35billion payments to province is no big deal

making provinces now is diificult. as there is no consensus. even though i want it for my hazara divsions

 

[Edevelop]

but is not this tue that sindh for example had it been a separate country or Baluchistan had it been a separate country would have been far more richer due to oil and gas they have than punjab for example.
same is true for KPK its producing nearly 4400MW in hydro even in winter well above 1400. same is true for gas and oil KPK is producing more oil and gas than it consumes.
honestly speaking punjab is getting more profit from this realtionship. but still majority of people from other provinces dont think on this line. problem is majority of educated Punjabi think they are doing a favour to us when its other way around.

this is preciously the attitude that made east Pakistan into Bangladesh, they earned money but we used to come up with foolish logic

Since 2010 we have the 18th Amendment and since then no Federal Government be it PPP or PML-N made any move.

Before them, Musharraf, (a non-Punjabi) killed Balochis and Pukhtuns and also made all the wrong Economic Policies and made kick backs on such as Barrick Gold, Reko Dig, and CNG. Also what is pertinent to note is that companies such as FWO were awarded contracts without any bidding.

As far resources comparison by province is concerned, do you know Punjab has to import wheat despite being wheat surplus ? Agriculture is far more important right now then oil and gas as it makes up 70% of our economy.

 

[Hyde]

situation in Baluchistan isnot good, we have lot off state haters there.
sindh its decent.
situation in KPK is so far as good as any where in rest of Pakistan but attitudes might change that. govt needs to pay what they Have to pay and its nothing much. additional 30-35billion payments to province is no big deal

making provinces now is diificult. as there is no consensus. even though i want it for my hazara divsions

Before the general election 2013 (as I am not sure after the election years)

Punjab was wilfully taking less share of the budget from its due right. Every province had appreciated the move of Punjab where the allocation of Punjab budget was distributed for the welfare projects in Balochistan and KPK. Despite that, Punjab is 60% of Pakistan in terms of population so its share of budget is still very large.

I am in favour of making more provinces, ideally over 16 or converting all the districts to provincial level. This way we will be able to get rid of this curse of other provinces taking more share of it. The provinces will be so small that they will be able to work for the benefit of its local community

 

[assas]

مزید پڑھئے : پاکستان میں شرح خواندگی بڑھنے کے بجائے کم ہوگئی، سروے - ایکسپریس اردو

 

[ziaulislam]

Before the general election 2013 (as I am not sure after the election years)

Punjab was wilfully taking less share of the budget from its due right. Every province had appreciated the move of Punjab where the allocation of Punjab budget was distributed for the welfare projects in Balochistan and KPK. Despite that, Punjab is 60% of Pakistan in terms of population so its share of budget is still very large.

I am in favour of making more provinces, ideally over 16 or converting all the districts to provincial level. This way we will be able to get rid of this curse of other provinces taking more share of it. The provinces will be so small that they will be able to work for the benefit of its local community

previously the share was distributed on one single formula...population ignoring everything else.
every economist and planer thought that although population should be the major divider it should not be sole one.
in other word uptill now punjab was getting more than what it should have.

guess what it happened during a govt of minority provinces coalition! i doubt it that it would have been in PML N govt.

having said that punjab still deserve credit for scarifying their share

 

[Hyde]

previously the share was distributed on one single formula...population ignoring everything else.
every economist and planer thought that although population should be the major divider it should not be sole one.
in other word uptill now punjab was getting more than what it should have.

guess what it happened during a govt of minority provinces coalition! i doubt it that it would have been in PML N govt.

having said that punjab still deserve credit for scarifying their share

But the share was happily sacrificed by the same government of PML-N. Every party appreciated it as they wanted to resolve the matter of NFC Award and Punjab didn't make an issue out of nothing like K-P is doing on CPEC

 

[Edevelop]

I am a Punjabi but people like you love to label anyone who doesnt agree with you

2ndly, for me Pakistan comes above province and ethnicity something politically active people like you will never understand


I never said the solution was wrong...I asked is it using KPK's withheld funds and pretending it is chiming in? Did you answer that?

Firstly I'm ethnically Kashmiri. Secondly to be honest everyone is using everyone. The day provinces get their shares they are going to bully Punjab because it will get the most. This is not ethical because Punjab has always been sincere to allocate its budget to other provinces.

 

[Dubious]

The day provinces get their shares they are going to bully Punjab because it will get the most.

Well, if they live in fear and projecting based on their mentality, their worst nightmare might just come true

This is not ethical because Punjab has always been sincere to allocate its budget to other provinces.

Not really...

What needs to be done is make more provinces and make them as equal as possible so no one can claim a larger share

 

[Edevelop]

Well, if they live in fear and projecting based on their mentality, their worst nightmare might just come true

Not really...

What needs to be done is make more provinces and make them as equal as possible so no one can claim a larger share

Most people are not dumb. They know this 'fear' is artifical. Parties like ANP and small nationalist parties get money from foreign agencies so projects like Kalabagh Dam and CPEC don't become reality

If Hazaras of KPK, Serikis of Punjab, and Pukhtuns of Balochistan want a province call APC and call for Elections so people can decide. In democracy its not up to 'a' provincial government or 'a' party to decide the fate

 

[ziaulislam]

Firstly I'm ethnically Kashmiri. Secondly to be honest everyone is using everyone. The day provinces get their shares they are going to bully Punjab because it will get the most. This is not ethical because Punjab has always been sincere to allocate its budget to other provinces.

there is a thing called "facts" and "logic"
both are against you why?

fact 1. that until 7th award punjab got funds that every economist says it shouldn't have.
fact 2. federation doesnt pay provinces their share, the money eventually ends up in NFC and goes to Punjab in one way
result:> punjab most developed province

can you repeat this statement to any logical person " if province get their funds they will bully punjab" the main issue is lack of royalties to kpk and sindh

there is set formula in NFC 7 and every province is happy with other than punjab . go and read NFC news and formula