Have you heard him speaking? Village idiot may be too harsh, but certainly he does not have the intellect to understand the nuances of drafting a bill which will fight corruption. I agree that he has earned goodwill of people by doing wonderful work, and will have a positive influence on the team.
I wonder if educational degrees are the sign of intellect.
Quite a few of our politicians are practically illiterates and yet they are taken to be the 'voice of the people'
What is special about being army lance naik?
What is special is that he would have got a pittance in pension and gratuity. Yet, he spent all that to uplift is village. How many of us are so selfless?
Sachin Tendulkar earns in crores, and he is an icon, has he given anything to charity? Yes, he has lent his name to charities, but his own money?
That is the difference.
Genuine concern for helping the people.
I am not saying anybody has to be intelligent of highly educated to fight corruption. We all should do. He deserves the credit for doing what he has done.
The manner in which he did the whole fight is questionable. Govt relented because it had no option. But please dont tell me it is will of people. The only will of people that is statistically proven is through ballot box. Rest all( including Raj thakrey's goons) are will of a section of people.
What is the manner which is questionable?
Govt did not have to relent?
Govt was not ready to do so, till they read the tea leaves. When they saw the groundswell of anger amongst the Indian people, they realised that in votes they will come a cropper next time around. So, they scurried to save their bacon. Did you not observe the difference in the facial expression of the Cheshire Cat Kapil Sibal?
Everybody is against corruption, but one cannot undermine the democratic process to fight corruption. It will hurt everybody in long run.
What is the democratic process that has been subverted or undermined?
They are only drafting a Bill. It does not mean that it is the law.
It will be Law if only it is passed in the Parliament.
Therefore, democracy is alive and kicking.
However, what irks the politicians and the business houses and chaps like Amar Singh, is that if the law is tough, then they will not be able to get rich quick or manipulate the system to their and their families advantage or fill the coffers of their family fortunes,
I am against judicial activism too. It is encroaching upon sovereignty of parliament. The problem with having too powerful judiciary/army/lokpal/cbi/raw is they are not accountable. You cannot change them if they turn out to be bad, every 5 years. It is nearly impossible to change a bad supreme court judge now, even if you know he is corrupt. Nearly 3 ministers have resigned just on the allegation of corruption.
How is the sovereignty of the Parliament encroached.
Are bill drafted by Parliamentarians or by the bureaucracy or by special committees set up?
What is Sonia Gandhi's National Advisory Council? Part of the Parliament?
What about Sam Pitroda and the IT policy that he has drafted and implemented? Part of the Parliament?
Why do you think the Police Reform Bill that aimed at taking away the power of the politicians to influence promotions and posting still not passed? Police out of their hands means they will become impotent!!
In so far as not being able to change the Parliament, the electoral reforms are addressing the issue of
'recall' of useless Parliamentarians by the constituents. Do you think such a bill will ever be passed by the Parliament?
Have you seen the 14 drafts of the Jan Lokpal Bill? What makes you feel that the Lok Pal shall be supreme? Can anything be more supreme than the Parliament and the Supreme Court?
Three Ministers resigned. Who are they? Raja had no options. Did you notice the fraud that Kapil Sibal tried to state that there was no loss to the exchequer? That means an independent body like the CAG is bogus, the Supreme Court is bogus and old Cheshire Cat is the only one who is correct. If he is indeed correct then, why is Raja where he is?
Take the case of bhushan duo. Even if it is smear campaign against them(lets agree for sake of argument, but credible people have written against them in newspapers since long), propriety demands that they resign from team, and help from outside.
Bhushans are not Lok Pals and have immense experience from the PILs they have fought over they years. They have drafted the Bill and so they will have to thrash it out with the Committee that has four Ministers of the five who are eminent lawyers. You can't change horses midstream.
Did you see the news today? Digvijay singh, the small time Raja of MP, has attacked Justice Hegde. He said that Hegde could not do anything in Karnataka as a Lokpal and undertook a smear campaign against him. The poor man Digvijay Singh is so definite in intelligence and logic failed to realise that it is for the very reason why he is on the Committee so that the Lokpal gets some teeth through this Bill.
You bring anyone on board and he will be will be at the receiving end of a smear campaign run by the Congress Party politicians and their business friends who prop up their finances through illegal funds.
The aim is to derail the drafting of the Bill and let it go beyond the date set with such fanfare by Moily, the Law Minister. You think Moily is clean? Many years back he was involved in what was called the 'Moily tapes'!
No one is clean. Only God is. Sadly, God cannot be coopted to draft this Bill.
Even if Mahatma Gandhi was on this Committee, he too would be subject to a smear campaign because after all, he is human.
But you see all so called eminent civil society ganging up, and supporting them. Why not apply same rule that has been applied for ministers.
Just because we have different perception about ministers they need to pay, and others can get away?
Which Minister has paid? Raja? He was nabbed red handed.
Every other Minister has escaped and so have bureaucrats!
Balwa will sing, if the CBI inquires correctly. Heard of the Stamp Duty case and Telgi? As the court was about to finalise the verdict, the Judge has been transferred! So, the whole story will start again and it will take another 6 years. You talk of democratic institutions being subverted? I say, the very concept of democracy is being subverted, violated and crushed underfoot by the very custodians of democracy in which you lay so much of faith!
You may well say honest people should stand for elections and clean the system, They have stood and lost. The reason is that you require money and goon (muscle) power and no honest man can afford to spend since he does not have the money and no honest person should have goons!
I am sure you must have heard what Kumaraswamy, the ex CM of Karnataka said. He spoke the truth and so the vested interest came down on him like a ton of bricks!
I believe in democracy and this rape of democracy under the cloak of 'saving democracy' is not the democracy that I think is what is meant by democracy.
However, I would surely be delighted with any means to save our democracy since the very institutions of democracy has has been ruined. I wonder if you heard what the Chief Justice of India, Justice Kapadia had to say.
No politician, be it from any party, will want the Lok Pal bill. Be it the Congress or the BJP or any other. It is like they would be committing suicide!
Have you noticed that they are using third parties like Amar Singh and one Vinit Narayan and the Hindustan Times chamcha of an editor?
Is the BJP up in arms as they usually are?
Any political party is up in arms?
