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[Species]

Agree in general, but there is no specific effort by China to bring Pakistan and China together. There are no plans for a joint SCO summit and Bangladesh is not even in the SCO. We don't see how China benefits from better Pakistan Bangladesh relations. Bangladesh is not a member of the SCO has not even an observer status. Last check Bangladesh is not even officially in the dialogue process though it may have initiated early talks .So we don't know what is China's game. Chinese investment in Bangladesh and products manufactured may ( long shot) be routed through Pakistan but highly unlikely.
LOL
Why closer to China? Why not even more closer to her guru Shri Narendra Modi who made a speech ( un-interpreted and in Hindi) in your Jatiyo Sansad when Sheikh Hasina is ignorant of the language and she along with 90% of the Jatiyo Sansad are fairly familiar with English.
For a country born out of pride in its linguistic identity the submission to linguistic arrogance from the big brother next door is surprising.

My post about the American-Chinese geopolitics was a reply to the Chinese member actually. Frankly, I'm not surprised by your lack of geopolitical knowledge about this region so let me tell you in brief. China would want Bangladesh and Pakistan to come closer, especially after the recent Sino-Indian tensions, which would send a message to the Indians, part of mind games. This is why Imran Khan called Hasina under Chinese direction and now Hasina has reciprocated, for her own benefits.

SCO has practically become SAARC 2.0 after the inclusion of India and Pakistan, and more so since the beginning of Sino-Indian tensions.

India and the US have common geopolitical interests in the region so Hasina would surely not be able to secure protection from the forthcoming threat that I mentioned I earlier, by aligning with India.

And I don't remember when Modi gave a speech at Jatiyo Sangsad, do show me a news source if it ever happened.

In case you noticed I already said this was a long shot interest

I already said its a possible long shot interest.

I already said its a possible long shot interest.

You do tend to shoot too long, may be it's time to give it a break as it's clearly not working in your case? Also, you may have noticed I have ignored and didn't bother to reply to your straw-man arguments, I hope you won't make such arguments further as it's clearly a sign of low intellect.

Curious why this interest in what Myanmar gets based on this video

Why wouldn't there be? Wouldn't you be interested in what Indian, Iranian or even Afghan military get?

Really? Where did you get that data from?

Pakistan | Imports and Exports | World | ALL COMMODITIES | Value (US$) and Value Growth, YoY (%) | 2009 - 2020

Bangladesh is the 4th largest export destination for Pakistan in Asia and 10th largest overall.

There is a significant number of Pakistani students studying in Bangladesh and the number is growing. I never heard of any unwanted incidents occuring to them, so again, do share a source of the lynching incident you talked about if it's true. Below is a video made by a group of Pakistani students in Dhaka,

I was going to say Khuda Hafiz ( which is Good bye in Urdu) but will respect your country and end with :
Joy Bangla !

Khuda Hafiz is Persian actually and the actual translation is "May God protect you". I though do agree that Urdu is a beautiful language and Pakistan has an extremely rich culture, incorporating the aesthetic stuff from the superiors.

Anyways, Fi Amanillah

or to reciprocate your kind gesture, Pakistan Paindabad!

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Punjabi blood?
A lot of that was spilled in 1947 to create that little pocket of land you now call Bangladesh and a lot more was spilled in 1965 to prevent your pocket from being overrun by keeping the aggressor occupied in the west. I guess 1971was different. If you want more Punjabi blood come and get it.

Learn from your counterparts across the border and say Om
Shanti


Yes, which is obvious in the delusion of identity whether a Bangladeshi is the same as Bengali and vice versa.

Depends on whom you ask .
The lie is that Bangladeshis are Bengalis .
The truth is that Bangladeshis are Musolmani Bangalis.

Exactly what Tasleema Nasreen says about her country men.
Which is why you have nearly wiped out the Chakma from the CHT and hounded millions of Hindus into India.


Exactly what Tasleema Nasreen says!


Yes, we were one people and unfortunately religious bigotry fostered initially by British Imperialism went out of control and our survival was threatened. This despite a bitter fight from the progressive forces on both sides.
Our progressives and secularists of Muslim origin realized that survival was more important than pursuing a dream so partition was the answer. Once the religious divisions were no longer a factor a modern secular westernized state would be founded with social justice and equality and abolition of the feudal state. The Indian secular progressives never gave up and continued to fight for inclusion and diversity. As predicted by us they have lost the battle. We weep for them.
Now we are concentrating on making Pakistan an inclusive democratic and culturally vibrant state. A robust defense to shield us from our enemies is vital, We have the power to inflict the ultimate destruction on those who wish to destroy us .

Exactly, you got the point. We eat roughly the same food, speak roughly the same language . We just don't worship the same way.
With Bangladesh it is the opposite. You can't make me wear a lungi to please you and I hate sutki fish. It stinks! Yes, we do practice the same faith but so do thousands of different tribes and peoples in the world like the Moplahs of Kerala.
Why should I treat you any different. You have my good will and full respects but no reverence. You are human like us not inferior or superior,


Am trying to distance myself from Bangladeshis . Not in a physical sense but realistically acknowledging the differences and one similarity. But I am not a Bangladeshi but a Pakistani.



Good to know. We Pakistanis are exactly indifferent to Bangladesh but our leaders don't curse Bangladesh in front of the whole world. So there is a difference in the kind of "indifference "

Will remember that next time I see the viral video of a 20 year visiting Pakistani student being lynched while being asked to shout Joy Bangla - a slogan that was shouted 30 years before he was born.


Oh she is not that bad . She only calls us Pakposhu but her boro bhais call us mleches and sullas .
So no we don't mind, We are entirely occupied with dealing with your boro bhai who are killing our brethren in Kashmir.
Sheikh Hasina figures very low on our priorities.


I could list a whole page here of Bengali epithets for Pakistanis .
The moderators will not allow the videos I want to up load .
However the gentler ones (suitably censored) are:
P_ki-Har_mi, Suerer baacha ,
Go_d h marani Pakimanush, Bokach_da Pakikukur.


Nope, its not you, Your notions are not preconceived they are well founded on the "reality" you accept. We lost to you in the gaali competition like we lost in every thing.


The bhadralok Bengali Indians I know say something else about Bangladeshis but I won't repeat it here so you are wrong on that one. But they are the ones who have to live next to you. We don't have to live with you so we have stopped thinking or describing you. But you continue to describe Pakistanis with the words I just wrote above and these are the milder ones.



Yes, I agree, her verbal offensive pales in comparison to the abusive Muktijoddha marching songs abuse on the internet ( Pak poshuder martey hobe..). the milder one, Her verbal rants pale in comparison to the abuse hurled at us by your RSS VHP boro bhais across the border.

Hahahaha, Wow... You really needed to vent that bad hah....



Good for you... Btw I meant Pakistanis want to distance themselves from Indians, who are the same as them.

You're quoting taslima nasreen ? The Bangladeshi equivalent of Tareq Fateh ? Your arguments are so weak you need to rely on Indian agents..... Shame I was expecting a better response.

Can't be bothered to correct all the other gibberish in your post, I care so very little what you or your countrymen or the Indians or the Bengalis on the other side think.



Joi Bangla! Joi Bangabandhu!

 

[Tom-tom]

Let me tell you Bangladesh is more sinister than India. Atleast with India we know that they are our enemy and we know what to expect from them. With Bangladesh they will resort to treachery and backstabbing. What sense does it make calling an Ambassador that you failed to approve for the last few years have him come over and then complain "We will never forget 1971 BLAH BLAH BLAH". Could you every imagine the US state department calling the UK ambassador or Putin calling the German ambassador and complaining "We will never forget the pain of ww2"... NO because that is not how mature leaders or nations act.

The leaders of BD do not realize that in all honesty and respect... 99.9% of Pakistanis do not think nor care about Bangladesh or 1971. It may be hard to believe for a nation whose people have been so brainwashed regarding the unfortunate events on 1971 but it is true any any Pakistani member on this forum. Bengladeshis might hate us and talk 1971 27/7 but no one no one in Pakistan really thinks about Bangladesh (in a good way or bad). The country and people simply have wayyyyy to many worries to think about 50 years ago. When it comes to politics Pakistanis are more interested in Middle east, China, India, Turkey, West... Bangladesh is not even a topic of discussion.

Ive met Bangladeshis in the west whose first talk with me was "So your Pakistani you must hate Bangladesh" to which I was profoundly shocked. Many Bengladeshi immigrants in the west are shocked when they meet a Pakistani and realize all the lies theyve been fed. No Pakistanis do not hate Bangladesh, we wish you the best, but Bangladeshis on the other hand would never wish good for Pakistan.

Pakistan doesnt benefit in any way from having close ties with Bangladesh. Bangladesh is neither a big market for our goods nor a source of investment, BUT Bangladesh has a alot more to gain from Pakistan. Many Pakistanis business people have invested in BD over the last few decades. Abusing Pakistan provides a political boost to AL politicians. Literally the only reason Hasina met the ambassador was to score political points with the BD media, and to show India that they have options.... but thats it.

Sure there is potential...maybe BD can buy JF-17s? maybe cooperation in science/technology/space? but at the end of the day I simply dont see how this will benefit Pakistan? If it could im sure both the govt would have been on good terms by now....

The only difference is that the wrong doer Germany does not meddle in affairs of the u. S related to that incident.

If Pakistan conducted its self in admirable manner instead of rubbing salt and interfering with Bdesh, then I doubt this would have happened.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

The only difference is that the wrong doer Germany does not meddle in affairs of the u. S related to that incident.

If Pakistan conducted its self in admirable manner instead of rubbing salt and interfering with Bdesh, then I doubt this would have happened.

lol have you seen the trial of Nazis and their subsequent apology or the process of regret the Germans have gone through ?


They didn't sweep their mistakes under the carpet like some others who come from an infallible God artificial given state....


So very alike to Israelis who consider their nation above humanity and consider themselves to be on the 'right' path...

 

[Michael Corleone]

1965 to prevent your pocket from being overrun by keeping the aggressor occupied in the west.

EBR and lahore
Enough said

 

[SD 10]

Agree in general, but there is no specific effort by China to bring Pakistan and China together. There are no plans for a joint SCO summit and Bangladesh is not even in the SCO. We don't see how China benefits from better Pakistan Bangladesh relations. Bangladesh is not a member of the SCO has not even an observer status. Last check Bangladesh is not even officially in the dialogue process though it may have initiated early talks .So we don't know what is China's game. Chinese investment in Bangladesh and products manufactured may ( long shot) be routed through Pakistan but highly unlikely.

LOL
Why closer to China? Why not even more closer to her guru Shri Narendra Modi who made a speech ( un-interpreted and in Hindi) in your Jatiyo Sansad when Sheikh Hasina is ignorant of the language and she along with 90% of the Jatiyo Sansad are fairly familiar with English.
For a country born out of pride in its linguistic identity the submission to linguistic arrogance from the big brother next door is surprising.
On the other hand Mamta Bannerjee her counterpart in power next door who ( my opinion only) speaks better shudh Bengali than her is not even honored with a return visit because she is the political opponent of Boro Bhai Modi


From the title of this thread. Also from the news reports in your own bangla media which I try to follow.
So if the Muktijoddha song was :
Pak poshuder martey hobe
then why do you even talk or have an embassy at all. Kick the Pakistani ambassador out and close up the Pakistani embassy. You nearly did once. I assure you Pakistan will not protest and will quietly leave.
After all you are the only Bengalis in the world and center of the Bengali world, which is acceptable

All others don't count no matter what this song says:

In case you noticed I already said this was a long shot interest and minor one.
So the London flights were affected and BD flights elsewhere were denied alternative flight paths.
That is good to know. The less interest Bangladesh has in Pakistani airspace the better. Pakistan has zero interest and its flights to Bangkok can find alternative routes over China and Myanmar. Pakistan doesn't even maintain a PIA main office in Dhaka and uses a third party GSA instead. It wouldn't matter the least bit to Pakistan if Bangladesh closed its airspace to Pakistani planes


I already said its a possible long shot interest. You confirm there is no interest so much the better. We get a lot of fish from Gwadar and we would like to keep our cuisine less spicy. Jholer Macher will not be on our menu in restaurants there.

I already said it was a long shot based on rumors. See the. video below. You think its a piece of junk like your boro bhai thinks so it is fine
Pakistan was never selling and you were never buying. Curious why this interest in what Myanmar gets based on this video:

Buy the J-10s. Your allies next
door will be coming over with a screwdriver and magnifying glass to examine the planes.
May I ask whom you are going to fight with the J-10s ?


Good to hear. So for these Bengali speaking Pakistanis, Bangladesh is closed to travel so no visas are needed and you can downsize your visa section in Karachi.

India had given them the right of return because they were of Indian origin. They had fled your ally India from the states of Bihar and UP. They were not from Punjab, Baluchistan, Sindh or KPK.
Why didn't Bangladesh send them back to the India ? They were only 500,000
After all India is asking Bangladesh to take back 4 million illegal Bangladeshi immigrants ( initially).
If Bangladesh has made illegal "Biharis" their citizens then they should ask Shri Nitish Kumar the Bihar Chief Minister for funds to rehabilitate them instead of keeping them in squalor as otkaphoras. Ask Nitish Kumar for the money not Pakistan, because we can likewise ask money for absorbing your Bengali speaking citizens.

Really? Where did you get that data from? What exactly do Pakistan and Bangladesh import and export from each other that they can't do without or can't get from elsewhere? Paan and betel nuts perhaps but Pakistanis can give up this disgusting habit and go less to their dentists.
Major host for Pakistani students?
Where one unfortunate who was stupid enough to study there was forced to shout Joy Bangla and was lynched none the less.
The good part is he was not asked to shout "Jai Shreeram "

Agree. Normal diplomatic ties like we have with Nepal who doesn't curse us unlike their Hindu brethren next door and their Muslim neighbor close by.
Thanks for an interesting viewpoint.
I was going to say Khuda Hafiz ( which is Good bye in Urdu) but will respect your country and end with :
Joy Bangla !

Golden wor

Hide under your bed, big bad Bengali boogeyman is out for ponjabi blood....



Stabba Stabba Kill Kill




The overcompensation to obfuscate one's own past misgivings is very telling....



Being more subtle with the denial will help you in your quest as a nation to exonerate yourself from something you say is all 'lies'....

You have totally convinved yourselves that you have done nothing wrong and yet you will continue seek exoneration (not from us but from yourself)...



Mind numbing idiocy.





Do you know why you get along with Indians ?

Because you were one people before 47, no amount of temper tantrums and thrashing around will change that.... Maybe the specific ethnicities aren't same but from a normative standpoint you're both two sides of the same artificially constructed coin.


One Hindu, One Muslim.


That's the only difference.


You are exactly that which you seek to distance yourself from.





If you want the truth, then let me give it you :


We are indifferent to the existence of Pakistan, we have no preformed opinion of Pakistanis as individuals, as a nation maybe but as an individual we have no biases.



It matters little to us whether one is Indian or Pakistani or Nepali, we Bengalis keep our head down and get our work done.



If you can't bear Hasina venting every now and then.... Then you're paying way too much attention to what she has to say.



We do not have a Bengali equivalent for Pakistanis and Indians along the lines of 'Kala Bengali' 'Bhuka Bangali' or 'Bhikari Bengali'.....

It's pretty clear which party has preconceived notions about the other... Hint: it's not us.


The first thing out of an Indian's or Pakistan's mouth when they want to offend is either one of those three I've listed above...




Hasina's verbal offensive against Pakistan can leave a bad taste I understand but.... That pales in comparison to the causal racism we have been on the receiving end of since forever.

Man chill! No one here cares about bangladesh, you guys are too far to matter anything to us.... CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!! It doesn`t matter!

 

[Tom-tom]

lol have you seen the trial of Nazis and their subsequent apology or the process of regret the Germans have gone through ?


They didn't sweep their mistakes under the carpet like some others who come from an infallible God artificial given state....


So very alike to Israelis who consider their nation above humanity and consider themselves to be on the 'right' path...

How could I have forgotten to mention that, not to forget of decades of renowned pak States man going to articles and calling bdesh a nation of traitors.

When these paks forget that push for a Indian Muslims homeland sovereign mostly came from east bengal modern day bdesh. When they were happy with the martial race thing working In their favour. If it weren't for east bengal pak would be licking the boots of the brits and Indians.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

How could I have forgotten to mention that, not to forget of decades of renowned pak States man going to articles and calling bdesh a nation of traitors.

When these paks forget that push for a Indian Muslims homeland sovereign mostly came from east bengal modern day bdesh. When they were happy with the martial race thing working In their favour. If it weren't for east bengal pak would be licking the boots of the brits and Indians.

No point enlightening the Ignorant...


The trajectories of the two peoples says it all.




The powers that be; the Almighty, is always on the side of the just and the oppressed,... In this instance it seems the Almighty isn't siding with the country that exists under religious branding.



Be it revisionism or collective state enforced amnesia, the past cannot be conveniently ignored, it will come back to haunt you.


The past is repeating itself as we speak, much to my amusement

 

[Tom-tom]

Golden wor

Man chill! No one here cares about bangladesh, you guys are too far to matter anything to us.... CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!! It doesn`t matter!

As Bangladesh goes into the trillion dollar mark economy, turkey coming closer to BD. Pak will have to co-op with bd at some point or another to squash India. Or do paks secretly love India and wish to keep it alive.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

As Bangladesh goes into the trillion dollar mark economy, turkey coming closer to BD. Pak will have to co-op with bd at some point or another to squash India. Or do paks secretly love India and wish to keep it alive.

Pakistan draws unity from the alleged existential threat they face from India.


The moment India and the Kashmir Problem is solved the proverbial Pandora's box opens for Pakistan...


Think multiple Balochistans.... An inevitable schism awaits the already fractured Pakistani society should India, the unifier (the sole reason for Pakistan's existence), cease to exist.




Those in power in Pakistan in their short sightedness built a nation that is geared and yearning to achieve parity with the behemoth that is India, a futile attempt at holding a nation together and holding onto their own seats of power....


In doing so they have set in motion the very events that will cause great strife in the Pakistani society.... Should the country hold together remains to be seen.



Either way, it matters little to us so...



Many thanks to the Almighty for he thrust us into abandoning that sinking ship, while we could.

 

[Tom-tom]

Pakistan draws unity from the alleged existential threat they face from India.


The moment India and the Kashmir Problem is solved the proverbial Pandora's box opens for Pakistan...


Think multiple Balochistans.... An inevitable schism awaits the already fractured Pakistani society should India, the unifier (the sole reason for Pakistan's existence), cease to exist.




Those in power in Pakistan in their short sightedness built a nation that is geared and yearning to achieve parity with the behemoth that is India, a futile attempt at holding a nation together and holding onto their own seats of power....


In doing so they have set in motion the very events that will cause great strife in the Pakistani society.... Should the country hold together remains to be seen.



Either way, it matters little to us so...



Many thanks to the Almighty for he thrust us into abandoning that sinking ship, while we could.

They perplex me, I see these pak crying for sikhs across the border over the farming bill. When these sikhs in the past have killed a million Muslims during partition.

I saw on youtube a while ago of a sikh punjab guy leading a group bjp beef vigilantes travelling all way down to Mumbai to harrass and beat up muslims in the world biggest bison culling depot. (as Muslims r not allowed to eat beef in India). Beating up Muslims over rumours that they are killing cows.

These paks cry for these people? I am baffled. I just Dont understand.

 

[Baibars_1260]

Many thanks to the Almighty for he thrust us into abandoning that sinking ship, while we could.

May your prayers be answered and your ship keeps afloat !

Global warming and rising sea levels in will be reducing your land mass by 11% with Chittagong and Khulna vanishing into the ocean.
Even as India chokes your waters at Farrakka they will periodically flood the rest of Bangladesh by releasing the excess water in the monsoons.They already do that in part.
So one side is the sea and other side the behemoth. Not to mention the periodic cyclones that rip
your coast lines.
So worry about your self instead of Pakistan.

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[Tom-tom]

May your prayers be answered and your ship keeps afloat !

Global warming and rising sea levels in will be reducing your land mass by 11% with Chittagong and Khulna vanishing into the ocean.
Even as India chokes your waters at Farrakka they will periodically flood the rest of Bangladesh by releasing the excess water in the monsoons.They already do that in part.
So one side is the sea and other side the behemoth. Not to mention the periodic cyclones that rip
your coast lines.
So worry about your self instead of Pakistan.

Climate Displacement in Bangladesh

Climate Change in Bangladesh Bangladesh is exceptionally vulnerable to climate change. It has been estimated that by 2050, one in every seven people in Bangladesh will be displaced by climate change. Renu Bibi, now living in a slum in the Mirpur district of Dhaka Displacement on the Coast…

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WE have our delta plan and Bdesh's population is going to fall by 50 %. Whilst pak is still booming like rabbits

 

[SD 10]

As Bangladesh goes into the trillion dollar mark economy, turkey coming closer to BD. Pak will have to co-op with bd at some point or another to squash India. Or do paks secretly love India and wish to keep it alive.

Look man this is what you guys dont understand.... Bangladesh doesn`t matter to us nor it will in thousand years! Hopefully you guys will achieve more and more progress, nothing against that but noone here really cares about bangladesh so do what you gotta do man!

 

[Baibars_1260]

WE have our delta plan and Bdesh's population is going to fall by 50 %. Whilst pak is still booming like rabbits

What exactly is your Delta Plan?
Unless you move Northwards with 25 % of your population?. How many can you pack into Sylhet. The only way is to merge with India and then disperse into the seven sister states.
Population? Will fall 50% ?
How ? Through migration?
Where?
Last I was in Dhaka you still use human pedal power rickshaws.
My taxi took 2 hours to drive from Dhaka Sheraton to Gulshan and there were ambulances honking their sirens with patients suffering inside. Motijheel becomes just that .
A pukkur or jheel when it rains.
Population density of Bangladesh : 1106/ sq. km
Population density of Pakistan:
245 / sq. km.
Dhaka is a city from hell, which is why people have moved to Uttara . More peace and quiet.