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Shakil Afridi has languished in jail for years — since 2011, when the Pakistani doctor used a vaccination scam in an attempt to identify Osama bin Laden’s home, aiding US Navy Seals who tracked and killed the al-Qaida leader.

Americans might wonder how Pakistan could imprison a man who helped track down the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. Pakistanis are apt to ask a different question: how could the United States betray its trust and cheapen its sovereignty with a secret nighttime raid that shamed the military and its intelligence agencies?

“The Shakil Afridi saga is the perfect metaphor for US-Pakistan relations” — a growing tangle of mistrust and miscommunication that threatens to jeopardize key efforts against terrorism, said Michael Kugelman, Asia program deputy director at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington.

The US believes its financial support entitles it to Pakistan’s backing in its efforts to defeat the Taliban — as a candidate, Donald Trump pledged to free Afridi, telling Fox News in April 2016 he would get him out of prison in “two minutes [...] because we give a lot of aid to Pakistan”. But Pakistan is resentful of what it sees as US interference in its affairs.

Mohammed Amir Rana, director of the independent Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies in Islamabad, said the trust deficit between the two countries is an old story that won’t be rewritten until Pakistan and the US revise their expectations of each other, recognise their divergent security concerns and plot an Afghan war strategy, other than the current one which is to both kill and talk to the Taliban.

“Shakil Afridi (is) part of the larger puzzle,” he said.

Read: From government doctor to anti-state agent

Afridi hasn’t seen his lawyer since 2012 and his wife and children are his only visitors. For two years, his file “disappeared”, delaying a court appeal that still hasn’t proceeded. The courts now say a prosecutor is unavailable, his lawyer, Qamar Nadeem Afridi, told The Associated Press.

“Everyone is afraid to even talk about him, to mention his name,” and not without reason, said Nadeem, who is also Afridi’s cousin.

'Treason'
In Nadeem’s office, the wind whistles through a clumsily covered window shattered by a bullet. On another window, clear tape covers a second bullet hole, both from a shooting incident several years ago in which no suspects have been named. Another of Afridi’s lawyers was gunned down outside his Peshawar home and a Peshawar jail deputy superintendent, who had advocated on Afridi’s behalf, was shot and killed, said Nadeem.

Afridi used a fake hepatitis vaccination program to try to get DNA samples from bin Laden’s family as a means of pinpointing his location. But he has not been charged in connection with the bin Laden operation.

He was accused under tribal law of aiding and facilitating militants in the nearby Khyber tribal region, said Nadeem. Even the Taliban scoffed at the charge that was filed to make use of Pakistan’s antiquated tribal system, which allows closed courts, does not require the defendant to be present in court, and limits the number of appeals, he said.

If charged with treason — which Pakistani authorities say he committed — Afridi would have the right to public hearings and numerous appeals all the way to the Supreme Court, where the details of the bin Laden raid could be laid bare, something neither the civilian nor military establishments want, his lawyer said.

A complicated relationship
Tensions have grown between Pakistan and the US since Trump’s New Year’s Day tweet in which he accused Pakistan of taking $33 billion in aid and giving only “deceit and lies” in return while harboring Afghan insurgents who attack American soldiers in neighboring Afghanistan. Days later, the US suspended military aid to Pakistan, which could amount to $2 billion.

Infuriated by Trump’s tweet, Pakistan accused Washington of making it a scapegoat for its failure to bring peace to Afghanistan.

The Wilson Center’s Kugelman advocated a “scaled-down relationship” between the two countries. He said both sides need to agree to disagree on some issues and instead focus on those areas where they can agree to cooperate against terror groups that both regard as threats, including the Islamic State group and al-Qaida.

Pakistan and the Taliban sanctuaries it provides are a big part of the insurgents’ success in Afghanistan, but it’s only one of many factors, Kugelman said.

“It’s foolish to suggest that if the Pakistani sanctuaries were eliminated, the insurgency would magically go away and the US would be able to prevail in Afghanistan,” he said. “The Taliban has persevered because the US still struggles to fight wars against non-state actors, and because the Afghan government has remained a weak and corrupt entity that has failed to convince a critical mass of Afghans that it’s a better alternative to the Taliban.”

'Not forgotten'
Afridi spends his days alone, isolated from a general prison population filled with militants who have vowed to kill him for his role in locating bin Laden, said Nadeem. Still, Nadeem said authorities are treating Afridi well and he is in good health, according to those who have seen him.

There was a no indication whether US Acting Assistant Secretary of State Alice Wells brought Afridi’s case up in recent meetings in Pakistan. But in a statement, the US State Department told the AP that Afridi has not been forgotten.

“We believe Dr Afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to Pakistan on Dr Afridi’s case, both in public and in private,” it said.

In the past, Pakistan has compared Afridi’s dilemma with demands for the release of Afia Siddiqui, a Pakistani woman who is in US custody convicted of trying to kill an American soldier in Afghanistan.

“To America, she (Siddiqui) is a terrorist,” said Kugelman. “To Pakistan, she is a wrongfully imprisoned innocent.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1384547/h...or-osama-bin-laden-and-is-languishing-in-jail
 
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I hope he rots in prison and die without ever seeing the light of the day or his family. This should be the price of aiding and abetting a foreign intelligence agency. Due to this haramzada, many kids went without vaccination because tribals wouldnt let their children close to polio vaccinations. Many polio workers got targeted and killed because they were believed to be part of some conspiracy because of this A hole. Pakistanis now have to go through polio vaccination before going abroad because we failed to eradicate polio.
 
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I wish the US does an Osama to rescue the poor doctor.
 
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US should exchange Aafia Siddiqi for Shakil Afridi. Straight up.
 
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He helped US to catch one of the dreaded terrorist which Pakistan couldn't. So exactly what blunder he did? Even Pakistan was looking for Osama! They should have been happy.
 
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I wish the US does an Osama to rescue the poor doctor.

Why don't you guys try instead?

He helped US to catch one of the dreaded terrorist which Pakistan couldn't. So exactly what blunder he did? Even Pakistan was looking for Osama! They should have been happy.

He ruined the polio campaign you autistic pagan.
 
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Shakil Afridi has languished in jail for years — since 2011, when the Pakistani doctor used a vaccination scam in an attempt to identify Osama bin Laden’s home, aiding US Navy Seals who tracked and killed the al-Qaida leader.

Americans might wonder how Pakistan could imprison a man who helped track down the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. Pakistanis are apt to ask a different question: how could the United States betray its trust and cheapen its sovereignty with a secret nighttime raid that shamed the military and its intelligence agencies?

“The Shakil Afridi saga is the perfect metaphor for US-Pakistan relations” — a growing tangle of mistrust and miscommunication that threatens to jeopardize key efforts against terrorism, said Michael Kugelman, Asia program deputy director at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington.

The US believes its financial support entitles it to Pakistan’s backing in its efforts to defeat the Taliban — as a candidate, Donald Trump pledged to free Afridi, telling Fox News in April 2016 he would get him out of prison in “two minutes [...] because we give a lot of aid to Pakistan”. But Pakistan is resentful of what it sees as US interference in its affairs.

Mohammed Amir Rana, director of the independent Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies in Islamabad, said the trust deficit between the two countries is an old story that won’t be rewritten until Pakistan and the US revise their expectations of each other, recognise their divergent security concerns and plot an Afghan war strategy, other than the current one which is to both kill and talk to the Taliban.

“Shakil Afridi (is) part of the larger puzzle,” he said.

Read: From government doctor to anti-state agent

Afridi hasn’t seen his lawyer since 2012 and his wife and children are his only visitors. For two years, his file “disappeared”, delaying a court appeal that still hasn’t proceeded. The courts now say a prosecutor is unavailable, his lawyer, Qamar Nadeem Afridi, told The Associated Press.

“Everyone is afraid to even talk about him, to mention his name,” and not without reason, said Nadeem, who is also Afridi’s cousin.

'Treason'
In Nadeem’s office, the wind whistles through a clumsily covered window shattered by a bullet. On another window, clear tape covers a second bullet hole, both from a shooting incident several years ago in which no suspects have been named. Another of Afridi’s lawyers was gunned down outside his Peshawar home and a Peshawar jail deputy superintendent, who had advocated on Afridi’s behalf, was shot and killed, said Nadeem.

Afridi used a fake hepatitis vaccination program to try to get DNA samples from bin Laden’s family as a means of pinpointing his location. But he has not been charged in connection with the bin Laden operation.

He was accused under tribal law of aiding and facilitating militants in the nearby Khyber tribal region, said Nadeem. Even the Taliban scoffed at the charge that was filed to make use of Pakistan’s antiquated tribal system, which allows closed courts, does not require the defendant to be present in court, and limits the number of appeals, he said.

If charged with treason — which Pakistani authorities say he committed — Afridi would have the right to public hearings and numerous appeals all the way to the Supreme Court, where the details of the bin Laden raid could be laid bare, something neither the civilian nor military establishments want, his lawyer said.

A complicated relationship
Tensions have grown between Pakistan and the US since Trump’s New Year’s Day tweet in which he accused Pakistan of taking $33 billion in aid and giving only “deceit and lies” in return while harboring Afghan insurgents who attack American soldiers in neighboring Afghanistan. Days later, the US suspended military aid to Pakistan, which could amount to $2 billion.

Infuriated by Trump’s tweet, Pakistan accused Washington of making it a scapegoat for its failure to bring peace to Afghanistan.

The Wilson Center’s Kugelman advocated a “scaled-down relationship” between the two countries. He said both sides need to agree to disagree on some issues and instead focus on those areas where they can agree to cooperate against terror groups that both regard as threats, including the Islamic State group and al-Qaida.

Pakistan and the Taliban sanctuaries it provides are a big part of the insurgents’ success in Afghanistan, but it’s only one of many factors, Kugelman said.

“It’s foolish to suggest that if the Pakistani sanctuaries were eliminated, the insurgency would magically go away and the US would be able to prevail in Afghanistan,” he said. “The Taliban has persevered because the US still struggles to fight wars against non-state actors, and because the Afghan government has remained a weak and corrupt entity that has failed to convince a critical mass of Afghans that it’s a better alternative to the Taliban.”

'Not forgotten'
Afridi spends his days alone, isolated from a general prison population filled with militants who have vowed to kill him for his role in locating bin Laden, said Nadeem. Still, Nadeem said authorities are treating Afridi well and he is in good health, according to those who have seen him.

There was a no indication whether US Acting Assistant Secretary of State Alice Wells brought Afridi’s case up in recent meetings in Pakistan. But in a statement, the US State Department told the AP that Afridi has not been forgotten.

“We believe Dr Afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to Pakistan on Dr Afridi’s case, both in public and in private,” it said.

In the past, Pakistan has compared Afridi’s dilemma with demands for the release of Afia Siddiqui, a Pakistani woman who is in US custody convicted of trying to kill an American soldier in Afghanistan.

“To America, she (Siddiqui) is a terrorist,” said Kugelman. “To Pakistan, she is a wrongfully imprisoned innocent.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1384547/h...or-osama-bin-laden-and-is-languishing-in-jail


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He helped US to catch one of the dreaded terrorist which Pakistan couldn't. So exactly what blunder he did? Even Pakistan was looking for Osama! They should have been happy.

Remember Pakistan "officially" did not know OBL was in Abbotobad; and didn't know US was running an op to get him. :rolleyes:
 
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Why? Did americans prove any charges against her?

She was arrested in Afghanistan, charged, tried, convicted, and serving time in US jail. A Google search will have plenty of links to details of her case, which is quite bizarre.
 
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He helped US to catch one of the dreaded terrorist which Pakistan couldn't. So exactly what blunder he did? Even Pakistan was looking for Osama! They should have been happy.

Come and get this bastard if you can. Don't give us sermons on who is right and who is wrong. Let me just say this much. You can't comprehend the punishment that he will be receiving for the rest of his miserable life. It puts the punishment we give to that little Indian terrorist we caught to shame. That is something considering how many innocent Pakistanis have died at the hands of that little Indian terrorist.
 
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Why? Did americans prove any charges against her?
Yes they did. It’s simply Pakistani inability to digest that this woman was out to kill people.
If out today, she would have either blown herself up at some Pakistani school or helped plan killing of Children, or have been some ISIS commanders wife and be spreading chaos in Pakistan.

I am normally very skeptical of US arrests and charged but this is one place where I feel very certain that this woman deserves to be incarcerated.. did she deserve the guantanamo bay agressive interrogation she got? I don’t know.. because like the dilemma of preventing a terrorist attack or like Hizb ut Tahrir who were after Pakistan’s nuclear command structure.. we don’t know what damages they could have done; just that their intent was deadly.
 
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