has the truth been finally acknowledged now?

[W.11]

Taliban would make Karachi more of a profit than MQM could ever do

This city is broke and dirty. How does a port city be broke and dirty? It is f**king impossible because of all trade through sea and land. Name me any other port city in the world and see how developed they are. You have to be incredibly stupid to screw up economics of a city like Karachi and yes MQM are that stupid.

karachi is a part of pakistan and entire pakistan is like that, broke and dirty

 

[Viper0011.]

the answer is not very plain and simple, who made talibans, who armed them? all the indications point to the authorities who were responsible for making and nurturing them and the same vermon ruling this country right now?

talibans don't deserve more hanging and punishment then these very same people who decade ago were responsible for their up bringing

Who exactly armed them? If you are looking for a political escape goat than I am sorry, that won't fly. I'm very curious as to who supported them a decade ago. Please explain.

Mind you, this is 2014. You can't go back to the Soviet days and blame everything on the US from 40 years ago. 3-4 decades were more then enough to fix the issue internally than blaming other for this mess. This is a systematic issue from all angles.

Remember the US has been saying "do more" since 2001. But PA miscalculated the barbaric nature of these Talibasards and kept thinking that Haqani guys were "good terrorists". This miscalculations was repeated for many years till multiple attacks in Karachi, Islamabad, Lahore and then in Peshawer. Turned out, all these crazy maniacs are really terrorists no matter which group of militia they associate to.

Now the Paris attack should renew the SAME message that these terrorists need to be put in jail or flat out, given capital punishment. These barbaric people care for no one, don't understand the word mercy and are following some crazy agenda that the entire globe and all religions don't agree with.

No one should ever be given the authority to use weapons on innocent civilians, no matter what anyone has done, said or written.

 

[graphican]

I guess this again is a case of good terrorist, bad terrorist in Pakistani society. MQM has militant wings who've killed hundreds of people in cold blood. Taliban bastard*s blow themselves up. The net result of either situation is humans getting killed and that is terrorism. In both scenarios, these people deserve maximum punishment so that the extremism can be rooted out of the Pakistani society.

I can't stress enough, Pakistan has a huge opportunity coming up to grow its economy and embrace modernization and tolerance. These militant and terrorist wings will not let that happen so these people need to be put in jail without mercy.

Mullas Terrorism
There are multiple layers of terrorism on both sides. For Mullas, bottom layer is easy to spot but their factories are never touched nor people who are actually responsible to spread this mentality across the countries; the Muftis, the Elders and the supporters sitting in Madrassas. Pakistan would need to eliminate at-least 2 bottom layers and warn supporters of similar consequences before results are seen.

MQM Terrorism
Even their bottom layer of terrorists is hidden or partly hidden. In quality, they are not any less terrorist than Mullas but their strategy to hide themselves is more effective. You kill a a MULLAH TERRORIST, it is a terrorist but if you kill an MQM terrorist, he is an MQM WORKER and soon party leadership start crying complaining our workers are being killed; who in reality might be party workers yet their terrorist activities are at level and equal to Mullas. Their second and third leadership is also political and they are not easy to grab.

When MQM points at Mullah terrorists, you cannot thank them for pointing out as they are not the ones who are hidden, neither you thank assassin for exposing another assassin. MQM's cries are mostly news of their recent conflict and defeat against Mullah terrorists. But when MQM terrorist kills their rivalry terrorists, Mullah terrorists don't have any body that would drop crocodile's tears.

On National note, I don't want anybody to suffer, neither Pakistanis nor political party workers, let it PTI, PMLN, MQM or any other political party but have zero tolerance to bull $hit let it be coming from PTI, PMLN, MQM or any other political or non political party. At National scale, all parties are respected and are equal BUT if they conduct terrorist activities, then all terrorists are equal and need same treatment.

Hope you got my point.

 

[senses]

Who exactly armed them? If you are looking for a political escape goat than I am sorry, that won't fly. I'm very curious as to who supported them a decade ago. Please explain.

Mind you, this is 2014. You can't go back to the Soviet days and blame everything on the US from 40 years ago. 3-4 decades were more then enough to fix the issue internally than blaming other for this mess. This is a systematic issue from all angles.

Remember the US has been saying "do more" since 2001. But PA miscalculated the barbaric nature of these Talibasards and kept thinking that Haqani guys were "good terrorists". This miscalculations was repeated for many years till multiple attacks in Karachi, Islamabad, Lahore and then in Peshawer. Turned out, all these crazy maniacs are really terrorists no matter which group of militia they associate to.

Now the Paris attack should renew the SAME message that these terrorists need to be put in jail or flat out, given capital punishment. These barbaric people care for no one, don't understand the word mercy and are following some crazy agenda that the entire globe and all religions don't agree with.

No one should ever be given the authority to use weapons on innocent civilians, no matter what anyone has done, said or written.

Here till now, all the blame game goes to back to soviet invasion. We keep on blaming others rather then acknowledging our own fault. Nothing new here.

 

[W.11]

Mullas Terrorism
There are multiple layers of terrorism on both sides. For Mullas, bottom layer is easy to spot but their factories are never touched nor people who are actually responsible to spread this mentality across the countries; the Muftis, the Elders and the supporters sitting in Madrassas. Pakistan would need to eliminate at-least 2 bottom layers and warn supporters of similar consequences before results are seen.

and how do you put PTI pro TTP stance in all this scenario, to me a TTP is not a bigger threat but those influencial political parties with power and influence and mass support, who are nurturing extreme mindset in our country are the real culprits, to me there should be immediate ban on JI, PMLN, PTI, JUIF etc

Mullas Terrorism
There are multiple layers of terrorism on both sides. For Mullas, bottom layer is easy to spot but their factories are never touched nor people who are actually responsible to spread this mentality across the countries; the Muftis, the Elders and the supporters sitting in Madrassas. Pakistan would need to eliminate at-least 2 bottom layers and warn supporters of similar consequences before results are seen.

MQM Terrorism
Even their bottom layer of terrorists is hidden or partly hidden. In quality, they are not any less terrorist than Mullas but their strategy to hide themselves is more effective. You kill a a MULLAH TERRORIST, it is a terrorist but if you kill an MQM terrorist, he is an MQM WORKER and soon party leadership start crying complaining our workers are being killed; who in reality might be party workers yet their terrorist activities are at level and equal to Mullas. Their second and third leadership is also political and they are not easy to grab.

When MQM points at Mullah terrorists, you cannot thank them for pointing out as they are not the ones who are hidden, neither you thank assassin for exposing another assassin. MQM's cries are mostly news of their recent conflict and defeat of their MQM terrorists against Mullah terrorists. In reality both of them need to be killed eliminated and cleansed - without mercy to either of those. But when MQM kills their rivelary terrorists, they don't have any body that would drop crocodile's tears.

On National note, I don't want anybody to suffer, neither Pakistanis nor political party workers, let it PTI, PMLN, MQM or any other political party but have zero tolerance to bull $hit let it be coming from PTI, PMLN, MQM or any other political or non political party. At National scale, all parties are respected are equal BUT if they conduct terrorist activities, then all terrorists are equal and deserve condemnation and the same treatment.

Hope you got my point.

only for your ego satisfaction, you insist on keeping your mind set anti MQM

but to be frank, those parties who are promoting taliban terrorists are a serious bigger threat to our country

you know when PTI walked away and opposed anti terror amendments, it became clear to everyone how your party is behaving as a political wing of taliban terrorists

by the way thank you for endorsing MQM stance for clearing labelling terrorism of mullahs, up until a time ago, you guys were hard core mullah supporters, it is MQM and thank MQM for erasing this confusion from your minds

 

[batmannow]

and how do you put PTI pro TTP stance in all this scenario, to me a TTP is not a bigger threat but those influencial political parties with power and influence and mass support, who are nurturing extreme mindset in our country are the real culprits, to me there should be immediate ban on JI, PMLN, PTI, JUIF etc



only for your ego satisfaction, you insist on keeping your mind set anti MQM

but to be frank, those parties who are promoting taliban terrorists are a serious bigger threat to our country

you know when PTI walked away and opposed anti terror amendments, it became clear to everyone how your party is behaving as a political wing of taliban terrorists

by the way thank you for endorsing MQM stance for clearing labelling terrorism of mullahs, up until a time ago, you guys were hard core mullah supporters, it is MQM and thank MQM for erasing this confusion from your minds

Any religious terrorism shouldnt be allowed any more?
& also any of the militant wings of the political parties should be checked & stopped?
yes religious terrorism is more dangerous cause its the maximam level of madness.

 

[W.11]

Any religious terrorism shouldnt be allowed any more?
& also any of the militant wings of the political parties should be checked & stopped?
yes religious terrorism is more dangerous cause its the maximam level of madness.

sorry but your attempts to mix the two totally different situation is uncalled for

the talibans don't want pakistan army to conduct operation in their strong holds, they fire rockets, chop your heads when you go there

on the other hand the army is present in karachi and rangers since twenty years along with all the agencies, then the question is why the hell the rangers not succeeding?

the answer is very simple, and you can rightly guess it

 

[Jaanbaz]

Afaq Ahmed and some members of Intelligence agencies are helping Taliban in Karachi.

 

[batmannow]

sorry but your attempts to mix the two totally different situation is uncalled for

the talibans don't want pakistan army to conduct operation in their strong holds, they fire rockets, chop your heads when you go there

on the other hand the army is present in karachi and rangers since twenty years along with all the agencies, then the question is why the hell the rangers not succeeding?

the answer is very simple, and you can rightly guess it

Every thing was fine & in under control whenarmy was in power in this country, karachi, MQM Ttp?
since the power been given to damocrats & to damocrazy, everything went nose down?

 

[W.11]

Every thing was fine & in under control whenarmy was in power in this country, karachi, MQM Ttp?
since the power been given to damocrats & to damocrazy, everything went nose down?

its a surprise how you complain happens right under army's and ranger's nose?

osama killed near PMA, hakeemullah mehsud living near waziristan military facility

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

Forget the talibanization........BHAInization is more concerning and threatning for us

 

[batmannow]

its a surprise how you complain happens right under army's and ranger's nose?

osama killed near PMA, hakeemullah mehsud living near waziristan military facility

Fact remains unchanged?
damocrazy the best revenge, when the supreme commander was zardari?
chosen by MQM & all others?
& still it is ?