Has KSA chosen a side?

[Blacklight]

@Jungibaaz Sir, did KSA call in the loan, as being propagated by the OP, or did GoP do a re-financing due to better rate availability?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I'm serious, those of the UAE think their leaders have developed their countries to what it is and without them they would be a poorer state like Bahrain. I was told this by my friends from UAE in Germany.

Your point is valid. However, the issue is not "democracy". The issue is "progress of the individual". Many people, certainly many GCC Arabs and also - let's be honest - many Pakistanis are happy to sell their rights to individual progress for a nice comfy life.

I'm not bothered in the slightest whether I live in a democratic nation, a communist state or a theocracy as long as my people progress themselves and are free to do so under that regime. Democracies are always a sham anyway - where information is controlled and manipulated in a certain way so as to make a populace believe they are making a choice.

 

[Dalit]

@Jungibaaz Sir, did KSA call in the loan, as being propagated by the OP, or did GoP do a re-financing due to better rate availability?

All you need to do is Google friend. Don't believe my words.

 

[Bil]

I am a firm believer that decisive moment(s) come in life of every person, nation and country when tough decision(s) must be taken. Coming generations and history will always remember these bold and tough decision, which weren't easy to take in the given circumstances - Pakistan is going though such phase.

Yes, there is not doubt that KSA & UAE are puppets of western countries and US, they pull their strings from behind, therefore, it shouldn't be a question that if "KSA has chosen a side", they have since the get-go. Its just that US has orders them to show their true colors, to put pressure on Pakistan to choke, which Pakistan and all of us have seen now. On contrary, this is high time for Pakistan to further strengthen its relationship with like minded like China, Turkey, Iran and Malaysia.

Few days ago Pakistan borrows $1 Billion from China to repay $1 Billion KSA loan and I wouldn't be amazed if KSA will ask to return the remaining amount. Also, same would be coming very soon from UAE we well (we all should be mindful that its coming next). More to the point, this means that oil on deferred payment will not be a option anymore, which means from whoever we will get the oil, we will have to make immediate payment. This means more pressure on already fragile economy. Yes, difficult time is ahead of us, no question about it, however, at least this should be enough to teach us that who are our really allies and who pretended to be our allies.

Speaking of oil & gas, what KSA has done with us could very well be blessing in disguise, because recently Pakistan has been aggressively exploring oil and gas sources both onshore and offshore. And speaking of offshore, Azerbaijan is prepared to give Pakistan oil and gas on deferred payment. Which means if one door closes another will open.

Last but not the least, as nation all we need to remember is this - tough time doesnt last, but tough nations do. We need to stay strong going forward from here on.

 

[Blacklight]

All you need to do is Google friend. Don't believe my words.

I have better sources than google, but you keep on peddling whatever you want to.

 

[Basel]

Bro SA,UAE Egypt and other gulf states are all US puppets. Their sole survival to their fiefdoms is because of the West. Gone are days of late King Faisal, its time to stick to our true friends China and Turkey.

True and we are no longer US strategic ally as we have refused to be under India in New US plan for Asia.

 

[Dalit]

I am a firm believer that there are decisive moment(s) come in life of every person, nation and country when tough decision(s) must be taken. Coming generations and history will always remember these bold and tough decision, which weren't easy to take in the given circumstances - Pakistan is going though such phase.

Yes, there is not doubt that KSA & UAE are puppets of western countries and US, they pull their strings from behind, therefore, it shouldn't be a question that if "KSA has chosen a side", they have since the get-go. Its just that US has orders them to show their true colors, to put pressure on Pakistan to choke, which Pakistan and all of us have seen now. On contrary, this is high time for Pakistan to further strengthen its relationship with like minded like China, Turkey, Iran and Malaysia.

Few days ago Pakistan borrows $1 Billion from China to repay $1 Billion KSA loan and I wouldn't be amazed if KSA will ask to return the remaining amount. Also, same would be coming very soon from UAE we well (we all should be mindful that its coming next). More to the point, this means that oil on deferred payment will not be a option anymore, which means from whoever we will get the oil, we will have to make immediate payment. This means more pressure on already fragile economy. Yes, difficult time is ahead of us, no question about it, however, at least this should be enough to teach us that who are our really allies and who pretended to be our allies.

Speaking of oil & gas, what KSA has done with us could very well be blessing in disguise, because recently Pakistan has been aggressively exploring oil and gas sources both onshore and offshore. And speaking of offshore, Azerbaijan is prepared to give Pakistan oil and gas on deferred payment. Which means a if one door closes another will open.

Last but not the least, as nation all we need to remember is this - tough time doesnt last, but tough nations do. We need to stay strong going forward from here on.

I can already make a prediction. UAE and KSA are going to mass expell Pakistani workers in the coming days, weeks and possibly months. Don't think that the row ends here. The Arabs have made a vow. They are going to serve Israel and the US. Pakistan is at the bottom of the ladder.

 

[Bil]

I can already make a prediction. UAE and KSA are going to mass expell Pakistani workers in the coming days, weeks and possibly months. Don't think that the row ends here. The Arabs have made a vow. They are going to serve Israel and the US. Pakistan is at the bottom of the ladder.

Yuppers - I can very well see the writing on the wall bro.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

The side of Arabization is the only choice

 

[masterchief_mirza]

The side of Arabization is the only choice

Please start with the house of Saud.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Please start with the house of Saud.

We almost did in 1990, the Arabization campaign however was opposed by half the world.

 

[Blacklight]

Stop being an Arab appeaser. I am sick and tired of Arab appeasers in Pakistan. Sick up to my stomach. Look at your core interests instead of serving others.

You do understand that what KSA did here is unforgivable? Try denying that KSA didn't backstab Pakistan on Kashmir. I want to hear it loud and clear. I want to understand your point of view. Why are you taking the Saudi side despite fully knowing that the king is undermining Pak stance on Kashmir?

Thinking objectively is not everyone's cup of tea. Very easy to jump on bandwagons.

Anyways, seems, your fragile ego is hurt, so you resort to calling names.
@The Eagle @LeGenD @AgNoStiC MuSliM @PakSword

 

[Dalit]

Thinking objectively is not everyone's cup of tea. Very easy to jump on bandwagons.

Anyways, seems, your fragile ego is hurt, so you resort to calling names.
@The Eagle @LeGenD @AgNoStiC MuSliM @PakSword

You are clearly influenced by the Arab narrative. You are willing to throw Pakistan and Kashmir under the bus to appease the Arab interests.

It is clear as daylight that KSA has ulterior motives when it demands Pakistan not mention India at OIC. Tell me that I am lying and stop hiding behind mods. Have the guts to face me instead of tagging mods. You are not a baby. Say that I am lying and come with facts. I am all ears. Convince me with facts that I am wrong.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

You are clearly influenced by the Arab narrative. You are willing to throw Pakistan and Kashmir under the bus to appease the Arab narrative.

It is clear as daylight that KSA has ulterior motives when it demands Pakistan not mention India at OIC. Tell me that I am lying and stop hiding behind mods. Have the guts to face me instead of tagging mods. You are not a baby. Say that I am lying and come with facts. I am all ears.

If you were a honorable man you would sell your house and live on the streets for the Arab cause.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

We almost did in 1990, the Arabization campaign however was opposed by half the world.

I think you missed my point completely. Oh well.