Dubious
RETIRED MOD
- Joined
- Jul 22, 2012
- Messages
- 37,717
- Reaction score
- 80
- Country
- Location
Hence I said Pakistanis dont even know a thing about it? So dont you think raising awareness should be supported?What is fair election? Did we had fair election in every single NA seat in past?
Well no how about the many people who claimed that they voted for him or the many foreigners who didnt have the ability to vote? How about all the people who agree and all the testimonies to videos of people being shown to be throwing in more than 1 vote? How about all that surfaced slowly over a period of months?Who will decide whether overall election was fair or not? The one who lose in election? IK?
Are you asking me about people who dont even know the meaning of HAQ and dusroun ka haq khanay mein shouk rakhtay hain? PPP tou bhar mein jai! Seriously that party should be ashamed of even calling itself anything related to Pakistan after what it has done to Pakistan over the course of many years!Why PPP , PML(Q) are not crying about rigging as much as IK?
Half the stories newspapers are publishing are questioning him nothing wrong with that...but I am not going emotional when I am answeringIK dont have problem with election where he won the seats.Let assume for argument sake that its first time in history rigging took place in Punjab(leave sindh/karachi/KPK/Baluchistan aside) and IK was the first political leader who suffered because of rigging
You guys should read the article and should respond according to it instead of writing emotional speeches. Writer talking about plans and approach of IK that he seem confuse about his plans and objective and about how he want to achieve them.
Maybe by the very fact that he did these Jalsas and explained what happened to the votes of the people and telling them it is their right if they wish to question it or argue on it! That is democracy my friend! Your rights are yours why be afraid to use them?Can you tell us about how he will bring change in election procedures with these jalsa and Dharna?
Are you happy with any of them?OK PML(N) is corrupt government so how IK will overthrow their government in constitutional way ? What are his future plans/options because it seem he is not happy with election commission/chief justice and whoever dont agree with him ?
Do he or his supporters come on street with no plans or objectives in their minds? I will ask you guys to read the article again instead of assuming it anti-Imran
I believe you have your answer right here!DUBAI: Political analysts within and outside the country are confused over the decision of PTI chief Imran Khan to go for what he calls the “final blow” to the Nawaz Sharif government on August 14 because there is apparently no legal or constitutional way to do so, except through extra-constitutional means.
Really asking a crook for advice...is that what it is reduced to?And if Khan is gathering one million angry people before parliament just to announce that he may be quitting the big House or dissolving his own desperately-needed political and administrative base in Peshawar, it still does not achieve his objective of ousting Nawaz.
Likewise, if he wants to sit before the Presidency and parliament until Nawaz quits, that also may not happen, if the Sharif brothers do not panic and follow the cool like cucumber Asif Zardari, who endured Tahir Qadri’s long march and sit-in for many icy cold days while sitting in his Bilawal Fort in Karachi.
Nawaz also has a similar hideout in Raiwind and he has re-established contact with Mr Zardari for advice.
What sort of a question is that? Conspiracy theory indeed!So what is up Khan’s sleeve as in recent TV interviews his tone and language have become harsher and aggravated but he has not divulged anything that may make sense to his followers or those watching him everywhere.
There is, of course, one conspiracy theory, which if it has any substance at all, could be the key to the success of the million man march of PTI. That theory is a big question: Has Imran reached a secret understanding with the Establishment and will it act if the streets of Punjab and Islamabad go out of control?
Seriously making this another Lahore case? Is that the best news you could find?There is just about zero chance that Khan has received any such assurance or understanding.And if he drives the situation to a shootout, which spins out of the control of civilians, then there is a chance that the army may be called in “in aid of the civilian authority”, but that does not help Khan in any way. So what is his plan?
Err whose?Obviously, someone has pushed the PTI leader into a blind alley. If the objective is to overthrow Nawaz Sharif by street agitation and force, then a coalition of PTI and Dr Qadri and all other victims of the PML-N may gang up. But that would only be for someone else’s benefit.
Who talked about such a battle in the first place?As whispers in the drawing rooms of Islamabad continue, a Plan-B is already in place if the politicians fail and indulge in a do or die battle.
So what is stopping NS from recounts if he is soo sure he didnt rig anything?That Plan-B would, of course, not include any politician and may depend on technocrats and experts and self-servers who are always ready to join extra-constitutional set-ups.
But this Plan-B will go against what Imran Khan has been repeatedly saying; that he does not want to derail democracy.For Nawaz the political options are many. He can defuse the situation by ordering a recounting of ballots in a few constituencies and if there is evidence of rigging, to cancel the polls in these constituencies and order by-elections. All this would be within the Constitution and will not provide any excuse to the Plan-B supporters to move in.
Hmmm...media feeding people second thoughts is really sad..Imran may then demand mid-term polls and that could be avoided through many ways. But a million man march on August 14, or more deadlines given on that date would only annoy the PTI followers and also make the big Khan look like an amateur as it is now becoming a routine that he gathers people and when the balloon gets big to explode, he gets cold feet.
Really?Of course, the result of Zarb-e-Azb would play a key role in the politics of deadlines and street shows. If the army is able to clean up the NWA and the IDPs start returning, as was done in Swat, the Establishment may feel a bit easier and allow the politics of instability. But if things get worse, when and if the TTP blowback comes hard on cities and urban centres, again the civilian government will come under pressure.
Not sure what this article was about ...was it soo hard for the journalist to say ...we dont have clue what the march is about coz no one has leaked it out yet?By that logic more intervention of the Khakis may be needed in civilian matters and this creeping coup, although it is constitutional and invited by the civilians, may finally end up in a rough deal for all.
So the Khan has to decide how and through which way he will deliver the final blow on August 14, the day Pakistan was born. The roadmap is not there yet but it is pretty hard for him to get out of this corner that he has pushed himself in.And by the way, going for million man marches again and again and failing to give a clear direction will not play well with the exhausted PTI workers and supporters.
Has Imran Khan been pushed into a blind alley? - thenews.com.pk
In any "democracy" if a certain number of people are not satisfied, some form of adjustment is made ...how hard is that to understand? Oh wait people shouldnt voice out is Pakistani politic's theme!
Last edited: