Has China already won in the South China Sea

[Viva_Viet]

Its not a question of intellect. As a third party observer....China largely controls oil drilling and fishing in most of the South China Sea. It has secured its claims with a large navy and forward island bases. In multiple standoffs other nations have backed down to China.....including Vietnam. In practice and in practical military terms....China already controls most of the area.

Okay, u still think CN "won" after seeings the map that CN only control 3-4% in Spratly, plus 8% in Paracel, then its your choice.

Not mentioning CN also failed to secure/protect its own Hainan naval base, whatever u think still cant change that PLA is stupid, useless army, not worth fighting against seriously.

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I think Xi is scared stiff with our ships surrounding Hai Nan naval base. Xi just try to do some cheap things to save face .

PLAN cant fight in real war without support from daddy US like in 1979

Vietnamese vessels usually gather in southeastern waters of Hainan Island, especially those areas close to the coastlines of Sanya City and Lingshui Li Autonomous County.
As it's known to all, these areas are homes to many naval and air bases.

U.S. Sends Two Aircraft Carriers to South China Sea for Exercises as China Holds Drills Nearby

Well India is democracy country. It is ruled by will of the people. chinese have no choice, you have to **** Xi till his life time. man why did you wait until now to talk about this? Should've told Russia this starting in 1947. Why did you beg for Russian money and weapons since the 50's again?

defence.pk

 

[hualushui]

There is an anti-intellectual Vietnamese here

Really fanny

 

[bshifter]

Chinese Power Projection Capabilities in the South China Sea | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative

Since 2014, China has substantially expanded its ability to monitor and project power throughout the South China Sea via the construction of dual civilian-military bases at its outposts in the disputed Spratly and Paracel Islands. These include new radar and communications arrays, airstrips and...

amti.csis.org

This map and analysis by the Americans shows how the South China Sea is under Chinese total control. Feel free to come up with valid and constructive counter arguments how foreign powers are keeping China in check in this area.

 

[Suika]

Chinese Power Projection Capabilities in the South China Sea | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative

Since 2014, China has substantially expanded its ability to monitor and project power throughout the South China Sea via the construction of dual civilian-military bases at its outposts in the disputed Spratly and Paracel Islands. These include new radar and communications arrays, airstrips and...

amti.csis.org

This map and analysis by the Americans shows how the South China Sea is under Chinese total control. Feel free to come up with valid and constructive counter arguments how foreign powers are keeping China in check in this area.

USS John S. McCain conducted Free and Open Indo-Pacific on October 9th.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...-halt-provocative-actions-in-s-china-sea.html

 

[bshifter]

USS John S. McCain conducted Free and Open Indo-Pacific on October 9th.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...-halt-provocative-actions-in-s-china-sea.html

invalid and nothing constructive at all, are poisonous japanese food and water taking its toll on your ability to analysis and think? you have to thank your fellow Americans for poisoning everyone in Japan and Okinawa

 

[Suika]

invalid and nothing constructive at all, are poisonous japanese food and water taking its toll on your ability to analysis and think? you have to thank your fellow Americans for poisoning everyone in Japan and Okinawa

Your off-topic response means you agree in reality without directly admitting it.

 

[bshifter]

Your off-topic response means you agree in reality without directly admitting it.

i agree with the link i provided which came from CSIS, AMERICAN THINKTANK. So are you disagreeing with CSIS because of some news site?

 

[Suika]

i agree with the link i provided which came from CSIS, AMERICAN THINKTANK. So are you disagreeing with CSIS because of some news site?

It was a very informative link.

But it doesn't say control.

 

[bshifter]

It was a very informative link.

But it doesn't say control.

"it does not say control" and you post some cheap short article from some news site as counter argument against an insightful analysis from CSIS. I did say if anyone can provide valid and well constructive arguments against the analysis go ahead. Instead you just use some garbage news article. How smart, NOT..... therefor i think it must have something to do with food poisoning in Japan, if that is where you are lol

 

[925boy]

Umm...i generally agree with the OP's assertion. Why? i dont see US mustering anything close to whats necessary to contain CHina in SCS..CHina has ALL the advantages....US isnt even willing to put troops lives at risk to face tough adversaries like Russia, China , Iran and NK..US has shown it is VERY SHY these days to put boots on the ground..which means US is simply patrolling IMO..even when COVID hit..there was an article showing that after the 2 US ACs exited the SCS, US basically had only 4 or 5 ships to patroll the area, PERIOD...China could've swarmed them and drowned them....even US think tank reports suggest that the US would take collosal losses in a battle in the SCS..buuut i expect people like @ F22 raptor to come here and say US is still in FULL CONTROL....

 

[YeBeWarned]

To declare a Victory you need to define the objectives first ..

 

[SuperStar20]

Here is the news :
USS Barry transits the Taiwan Strait

USS Barry transits the Taiwan Strait

The forward-deployed guided-missile destroyer conducted a routine Taiwan Strait transit in accordance with international law, Oct. 14.

www.cpf.navy.mil