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You have no grounds for claims against the gov't of Pakistan? Then it doesn't apply.How does that apply to our present discussion? Please clarify.
You have no grounds for claims against the gov't of Pakistan? Then it doesn't apply.
The difficulty is that the two countries are pursuing different endgames: the U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan existing under rule-of-law while Pakistan seeks a satellite Afghanistan under the sway of its own pet Talibs; Pakistan remains wedded to the strategy that incubated 9/11.
Thus Pakistan opposes any reconciliation with the Taliban that leads to peace in a Afghanistan absent of Pakistani political domination. As if economic influence wasn't enough! Really, this looks like the product of a military mindset unobstructed by political moderation: dominate or be dominated, etc. Afghanistan's problems are rooted in Pakistan's issues, so the emphasis should be there. Probably the only weak lever the U.S. exercises is to cut off the flow of U.S. "aid" but it seems that Pakistan is both the arsonist and firefighter so the U.S. has been afraid to take that step.
So far.
But Pakistan is neither a democracy nor even what the newspaper Dawn considers a civilized country
This article seems to be smokescreen. In reality, USA's troop had no effect in Afghanistan to decrease the terrorism. If anything, the terrorism has increased in the presence of USA army while Terrorist-outfit-aka-TTP has been caught roaming openly in Afghanistan as the guaranteed for safe haven by Afghan governments and intels whereas the very same TTP is responsible for more than 100,000 deaths including children and women in Pakistan.
USA has been known to sponsor the terrorism given their closet collaboration with Al-CIA-DA, ISIS and now TTP because of their collaboration with India. Hence USA is targeting on Afghan-Taliban which USA collaborated with in late 80s to resist USSR whereas USA is lenient towards TTP that is openly committing terrorism that has claimed the lives of more than 100,000 death including children and women.
USA has been upset at Pakistan/Russia lately because both Pakistan and Russia have been successful at eradicating terrorism of TTP/ISIS lately, and that is not the result USA was been hoping for. Because of USA betrayal towards Pakistan in regards to USA sponsoring terrorism through TTP to damage Pakistan and CPEC, Pakistan's alliance is now shifted with China and Russia. Also, going by the prophecy as mentioned 1400 years ago. Pakistan-Russia is here to stay.
Because of USA's arrogance has sealed its own fate by alienating Pakistan. Without Pakistan, USA is screwed in Afghanistan given its exit strategy depends on Pakistan whereas its so-called ally aka India has failed to destabilize Pakistan completely.
Despite USA so-called paragon of peace but in reality, USA has been purposely promoting anti-peace throughout the history such as ISIS/TTP to sponsor terrorism in order to destabilize Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
And Pakistan has every right to defend itself to eradicate terrorism even if it is USA-foreign-funded elements. USA doesn't like it that Pakistan responds back, and this time stronger than before whereas USA's position is now vulnerable more than ever.
U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan existing under rule-of-law
You lost it go home now 16 yrs r enough to win trust me u can't win next 16 yrs will keep loosing territory already lost half of Astan .Best option is Henry kissenger phrase peace with honour means find a way out with face saving .The difficulty is that the two countries are pursuing different endgames: the U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan existing under rule-of-law while Pakistan seeks a satellite Afghanistan under the sway of its own pet Talibs; Pakistan remains wedded to the strategy that incubated 9/11.
Thus Pakistan opposes any reconciliation with the Taliban that leads to peace in a Afghanistan absent of Pakistani political domination. As if economic influence wasn't enough! Really, this looks like the product of a military mindset unobstructed by political moderation: dominate or be dominated, etc. Afghanistan's problems are rooted in Pakistan's issues, so the emphasis should be there. Probably the only weak lever the U.S. exercises is to cut off the flow of U.S. "aid" but it seems that Pakistan is both the arsonist and firefighter so the U.S. has been afraid to take that step.
So far.
yeah like india has been doing since last 50 years starting from 1971..i still remember india proxies(the northern alliance) bombing Peshawar and school buses in 1990s without any reasonUSA knows deep down Pakistan will not change its SPOTS
They will support Taliban And maintain proxies to trouble India
I think its up to USA to simply drop Pakistan AND move 100% into Indian Camp
I think this process has begun
USA knows deep down Pakistan will not change its SPOTS
They will support Taliban And maintain proxies to trouble India
I think its up to USA to simply drop Pakistan AND move 100% into Indian Camp
I think this process has begun
Yes,independent and prosperous.the U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan
The difficulty is that the two countries are pursuing different endgames: the U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan existing under rule-of-law while Pakistan seeks a satellite Afghanistan under the sway of its own pet Talibs; Pakistan remains wedded to the strategy that incubated 9/11.
Thus Pakistan opposes any reconciliation with the Taliban that leads to peace in a Afghanistan absent of Pakistani political domination. As if economic influence wasn't enough! Really, this looks like the product of a military mindset unobstructed by political moderation: dominate or be dominated, etc. Afghanistan's problems are rooted in Pakistan's issues, so the emphasis should be there. Probably the only weak lever the U.S. exercises is to cut off the flow of U.S. "aid" but it seems that Pakistan is both the arsonist and firefighter so the U.S. has been afraid to take that step.
So far.
as pointed out by K. Asif if USA wanted peace it would have without any doubt ended the reasons for conflict...DRUGS...
1. why is Afghanistan producing 95% of world opium..there is simply no excuse for this, i mean no matter what you tell me its is not going to make sense..opium kills more Americans than all terrorists attacks combined x10 times
even your people knows it
army is seen walking in opoid fields..i mean there is no shame..
2. why has USA not worked on boader management, i mean pakistan is fencing it but USA is doing nothing, again no amount of stupid answers is going to change the fact, "USA has done nothing in boarder management"
3. Why has USA not trained the afghan army after so many years, why hasnt it formed a unity govt yet, why hasnt USA done any grund work to built up afghan economy, where has 120 billion dollars gone while Afghanistan doesnt even has a single Hemodiaylsis center and even now come to peshawar for treatments..
4. USA should make up it mind, does it want to talk or fight taliban?
yeah like india has been doing since last 50 years starting from 1971..i still remember india proxies(the northern alliance) bombing Peshawar and school buses in 1990s without any reason
india has no shame..
The difficulty is that the two countries are pursuing different endgames: the U.S. wants a an independent and prosperous Afghanistan