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[TheNoob]

Molvi kare to Jazakallah.

Aurat kare to nauzubillah.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

gande kam karne ki

Wo to ye log already kar rahe hain

 

[GumNaam]

the biggest opposition to these retarded ugly excuses of women has come from our own Pakistani women themselves. I've been following them on twitter...from hijabis to moderates to liberals, most women have butchered these retarded uglies and their so called demands.

Just don't give them any attention...they'll fizzle out.

shaadi? in say? shakal daikhi hay aynay may?

 

[LeGenD]

Molvi kare to Jazakallah.

Aurat kare to nauzubillah.

Nonsense. Do not generalize.

 

[GumNaam]

If we do not speak out against these type of women, the FEMALE HYPER-GAMY POISON will spread. They should be put in their place.

Funny...the 21st century western amreekan and european woman says:

Hame Shadi Chahiye Aazadi Nahi

and the thing is that the vast majority of this women are actually not feminists, they are decent women who want to settle down with a good husband and raise a small family in a house with a white picket fence and a dog, typical american woman's dream. but, alas, feminism has ruined the institute of marriage so much that most men say thanks but no thanks to marriage...result? 60% to 80% of children are born out of wedlock from noncommittal fathers, most of the time, those children don't even know who their father is.

Thank God the vast majority of Pakistani women see thru this libetard feminism clusterfest and are throwing it out the window minus a handful of psychopathic fringe dingbags.

We defeated terrorism, We defeated extremism, We defeated sectarianism, We defeated racism, We are defeating corruption...this feminism b.s. is dead on arrival.

 

[LeGenD]

Funny...the 21st century western amreekan and european woman says:

Hame Shadi Chahiye Aazadi Nahi

but, alas, feminism has ruined the institute of marriage so much that most man say thanks but no thanks to marriage...result? 60% to 80% of children are born out of wedlock from noncommittal fathers, most of the time, those children don't even know who their father is.

Thank God the vast majority of Pakistani women see thru this libetard feminism clusterfest and are throwing it out the window minus a handful of psychopathic fringe dingbags.

We defeated terrorism, We defeated extremism, We defeated sectarianism, We defeated racism, We are defeating corruption...this feminism b.s. is dead on arrival.

Absolutely, bro.

The 'spoiled' women have no idea about the implications of their foolish demands. Allah Almighty's teachings contain matchless wisdom.

 

[Longhorn]

The status quo will not persist.
That being the case, change must be managed rather than resisted.
If we want to educate our women, expect more of this to happen. If you don't want this to happen then don't send your daughters to school, keep them oppressed and ignorant from childhood and marry them off at 13 with all the attendant consequences for society.
The choice is yours.
Personally I'd rather see a progressive country full of confident, educated women that will propel this country to the next level and are an asset to the country and society.

 

[LeGenD]

The status quo will not persist.
That being the case, change must be managed rather than resisted.
If we want to educate our women, expect more of this to happen. If you don't want this to happen then don't send your daughters to school, keep them oppressed and ignorant from childhood and marry them off at 13 with all the attendant consequences for society.
The choice is yours.
Personally I'd rather see a progressive country full of confident, educated women that will propel this country to the next level and are an asset to the country and society.

Do you think that educational institutes are spoiling females or teaching them vulgarity? Seriously, dude.

Educated women are expected to be productive citizens and providers to their households. If 'certain' educational institutes are spoiling females then parents need to act.

Change should be productive; not regressive.

 

[Longhorn]

Do you think that educational institutes are spoiling females or teaching them vulgarity? Seriously, dude.

Educated women are expected to be productive citizens and providers to their households; vulgarity is the issue at hand, and should be discouraged.

If 'certain' educational institutes are spoiling females then parents need to act.

Change should be productive; not regressive.

I don't think vulgarity is the issue. Vulgarity exists even now.
What this is about is control.

 

[LeGenD]

I don't think vulgarity is the issue. Vulgarity exists even now.
What this is about is control.

Control is important.

When a disease spreads and has the potential to turn into an epidemic, what is the appropriate course of action? Allow it spread further and infect more individuals or make stringent efforts to mitigate it?

 

[GumNaam]

I don't think vulgarity is the issue. Vulgarity exists even now.
What this is about is control.

Well the thing about vulgarity is that those who practice it always end up alienating themselves from the rest of the society...

 

[Longhorn]

Control is important.

When a disease spreads and has the potential to turn into an epidemic, what is the appropriate course of action? Allow it spread further and infect more individuals or make stringent efforts to mitigate it?

It's very subjective. You are assuming that every woman that has the confidence to make her own decisions is automatically immoral and promiscuous. It patently is not the case. Women who are confident and in control are as moral as any other woman.
It's about norms and standards.
Morality is fine. Control for the sake of perpetuating the rights of one section of society over another is not.
As it is now, Pakistani women are subjugated.

 

[GumNaam]

It's very subjective. You are assuming that every woman that has the confidence to make her own decisions is automatically immoral and promiscuous. It patently is not the case. Women who are confident and in control are as moral as any other woman.
It's about norms and standards.
Morality is fine. Control for the sake of perpetuating the rights of one section of society over another is not.
As it is now, Pakistani women are subjugated.

Well in case you haven't noticed, the most vicious throwback against the aurat march came from women themselves, and very empowered ones, just see the reaction of Twitter from Pakistani women, journalists, doctors, what have you. And to say that women in Pakistan are generally subjugated is a gross over simplification...most Pakistanis are struggling financially and proper education is yet to become easily available and wide spread. The result is subjugation perhaps, but for men and women both, not just women.

 

[LeGenD]

It's very subjective. You are assuming that every woman that has the confidence to make her own decisions is automatically immoral and promiscuous. It patently is not the case. Women who are confident and in control are as moral as any other woman.
It's about norms and standards.
Morality is fine. Control for the sake of perpetuating the rights of one section of society over another is not.

You are turning this into a philosophical discussion when it is not.

And the bold-ed part is utter nonsense, an accusation from you. Refer to your post # 22 in this page:

"If we want to educate our women, expect more of this to happen. If you don't want this to happen then don't send your daughters to school, keep them oppressed and ignorant from childhood and marry them off at 13 with all the attendant consequences for society."

You are suggesting that educated women are likely to be immoral and promiscuous, you should be ashamed of yourself for putting your words in my mouth.

These are my words:

"Educated women are expected to be productive citizens and providers to their households."

Unless certain educational institutes are brainwashing women into becoming advocates of vulgarity...

I am talking about upholding Islamic values in Pakistan, and I will. It does not take a genius to figure out destructive implications of female hypergamy in numerous Western countries. Why do you think the institution of marriage is collapsing in these countries? You desire the same in Pakistan?

As it is now, Pakistani women are subjugated.

Sweeping generalization.

Both men and women have spoken against vulgarity in Pakistan on their own accord; educated ones at that.

 

[prashantazazel]

Do you think that educational institutes are spoiling females or teaching them vulgarity? Seriously, dude.

Educated women are expected to be productive citizens and providers to their households. If 'certain' educational institutes are spoiling females then parents need to act.

Change should be productive; not regressive.

Educated people tend to have a higher percentage of free thinkers everywhere in the world.