Halal supermarket ordered to sell pork, alcohol or face closure

[Zee-shaun]

Jewish kosher shops must be asked to serve pork and alcohol as well.

 

[Zibago]

Dont stores have a,right to sell tgeir own choice of products?

 

[bobo6661]

Jewish kosher shops must be asked to serve pork and alcohol as well.

Its a genaral store .... not a Halah only store...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_store

 

[livingdead]

Dont stores have a,right to sell tgeir own choice of products?

no, not in france.. its a regulated market..

 

[DJ_Viper]

Halal supermarket ordered to sell pork, alcohol or face closure

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1157396/halal-supermarket-ordered-sell-pork-alcohol-face-closure/

This is bullshiit, there are plenty of shops in the US, around the globe that sell Kosher or Soy products only. There are plenty of Vegan restaurant that only serve like .5% of the Vegan population. No meat eater goes there. So forcing a business to change its market plan and target customers is unreal and unacceptable. It has nothing to do with the French socialization structure. Its like asking for all Churches, Mosques and Synagogues should now have strippers as all of these serve a specific community and not general population. That doesn't make any sense.

Outrage as Muslim pupils exempt from shaking female teachers’ hands in Swiss district

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1078976...king-female-teachers-hands-in-swiss-district/

On this, well, do these Muslim parents who are living and enjoying the Western society want their children to be a part of the globe and have a good future? If yes, then their stupid behavior needs to change. If you want to live in the West, or even anywhere else, you can not afford to keep yourself in isolation and cut your children away from a common man or woman or a good future. Hand shaking is common principle 1 between 2 humans when they initiate a contact. If you put your religion in between, you'd never be able to make that contact and everything will be riuned as this child grows up with this mentality. More than likely, he or she will become hard core into believing these things and much worst can come out.

No one says don't be a Muslim, but I think everyone says use common sense and respect and integrate into other cultures too. If Women and Men alike, in Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan, Dubai, and almost all other Islamic countries can shake hands, wtf is wrong here? In this case, you are living in the West!! Hello!!?? Muslims should decide, if they want to immigrate to a different country, they are bound by the local law and someone told me that even Koran tells you to integrate with the locals and follow the local law, and you can do that by being a Muslim. This is ridiculous and makes all Muslims bad. There should be a local council that can jump in and fix these people's heads so they can use some common sense as to how backwards they make their religion and the entire Muslim society look like!!

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

you need to apply for it, the authorities will study and based on location will give permit.. both halal and kosher come under special religious license... also it seems weird that they decide how many supermarket, barber shop, bakery a village needs.. instead of relying on good old capitalism... I read it on reddit, not sure how true.

Same rules here, you need a permit to open a grocery store, and the local community decides
how many permits are available.

If You have a mall, they will regulate the number of each category.
No private entrepreneur is allowed to sell alcohol in their store.
Alcohol can only be bought in a government chain.
If You own a restaurant/pub, You have to have a special permit to serve alcohol,
and getting that can be difficult.

This is bullshiit, there are plenty of shops in the US, around the globe that sell Kosher or Soy products only. There are plenty of Vegan restaurant that only serve like .5% of the Vegan population. No meat eater goes there. So forcing a business to change its market plan and target customers is unreal and unacceptable. It has nothing to do with the French socialization structure. Its like asking for all Churches, Mosques and Synagogues should now have strippers as all of these serve a specific community and not general population. That doesn't make any sense.

The community makes the plan, and the leaser of the store area have to comply with the plan.
If they do not comply, they have to move the store or comply.

Nothing that stops the owner from moving to another place where the plan allows a Halal store.
There is no law against Halal stores in France.

Storm in a tea cup, if You ask me.

 

[livingdead]

Same rules here, you need a permit to open a grocery store, and the local community decides
how many permits are available.

If You have a mall, they will regulate the number of each category.
No private entrepreneur is allowed to sell alcohol in their store.
Alcohol can only be bought in a government chain.
If You own a restaurant/pub, You have to have a special permit to serve alcohol,
and getting that can be difficult.

which is why I said its soviet style regulation.. in most countries you rely on capitalism to figure out how many grocery store an area needs or what sort of stuff they need to sell...
alcohol requiring special permit(in shops or in restaurants) is true in most countries..

 

[Vergennes]

its not even that, its a matter of need really, france is losing its touch only rural areas of france are nice the cities are getting crap. now theres violence there trying to solve it the wrong way, and it will backfire.

Says those letting people demonstrating to install shariah in UK,says those that hide crimes,says those that tolerate people on the streets calling for jihad against France,says those allowing shariah courts,says those that accommodate everything for them,so to avoid 'any troubles.'
If that's how you solve problems,we don't need your advices at all.

Our country will not change to accommodate a minority,and everyone has to live with this. Everyone is free to leave and/or go to 'tolerant Britain'.
When will people realise that in France,religion or your beliefs aren't above the République and its values/laws ?

@flamer84

 

[A_Poster]

So just avoid the question.

Muslims want equality and are not getting it - shows the hypocrisy of the French

Anyways both non-Muslims and Muslims are/will pay a heavy price for the actions of the muppets in power.

btw - You know that I am not religious at all? I do not drink alcohol or eat pork but everything else pretty much goes for me

you are wrong. Religious crack downs were always sucessful in europe.

How many muslims were left in spain after Isabella finished the Reconquista?

When we italians recaptured Sicily, not one muslim was left alive.

Apart from two common example that MarkusS have provided; there is less example of near wiping out protestant (also known as Huguenot) from France.

Outside Europe,nearly every person who bow down towards Kaaba has an ancestor who bent his knee to Islamic sword.


Contrary to what people wish to believe, violence solves everything; and it is most efficient way of uprooting ideologies. No people, No ideology. Even though Hitler lost, he did succeeded in making Germany, Judenfrei. People may condemn holocaust as much as they wish ,and Germans may even show remorse and pay reparations for genocide, but they could not bring dead Jews to life and Judaism is practically extinct from Germany with only 120,000 adherents.

 

[Zibago]

Lol..Pakistanis expect we to give up Kashmir as its Muslim dominated state...Muslims from countries like Pak expect we to allow cow meat consumption.....in this case, dont understand why muslims don't leave France even if its not their own country! France is France because its France..muslims didnt build France so those who are interested to follow their muslim extremist faith must leave France and settle in KSA or Pakistan or some African country!

Kashmir was never yours to begin with you occupied it even after 28 days and 71 casualties there is curfew and they are protesting against you

We dont care about your beef law we just show you your face when you criticize our blasphemy laws

Why should French citizens of varying backgrounds in some cases of multiple backgrounds go to Pakistan ?
Were you born this way or did you apply for a special training program?

Apart from two common example that MarkusS have provided; there is less example of near wiping out protestant (also known as Huguenot) from France.

Outside Europe,nearly every person who bow down towards Kaaba has an ancestor who bent his knee to Islamic sword.


Contrary to what people wish to believe, violence solves everything; and it is most efficient way of uprooting ideologies. No people, No ideology. Even though Hitler lost, he did succeeded in making Germany, Judenfrei. People may condemn holocaust as much as they wish ,and Germans may even show remorse and pay reparations for genocide, but they could not bring dead Jews to life and Judaism is practically extinct from Germany with only 120,000 adherents.

My greatgrandfather converted when Kashmir was under Hinduvta raj your argument is invalid

 

[Nefarious]

I don't get what the big deal is, if that's how the market over in France works and it applies to all citizens of all faiths equally then what's the hoo haa about?

Btw if France puts Muslims in a position where they can't consume halal etc. I'm sure it's permissable to eat non halal in order to survive when there is no alternative. You won't have them packing their bags that easily!

 

[Zibago]

no, not in france.. its a regulated market..

So even if a product is not popular in your locality you have to have it in your store?

 

[liall]

To the kids crying racism please look into the reasoning. If the supermarkets do not sell pork and alcohol the non-muslim French will simply move to other areas over time. This will leave behind pockets of Muslims and that is counter productive over time because they want every immigrant to integrate with the society.

 

[JohnyD]

Kashmir was never yours to begin with you occupied it even after 28 days and 71 casualties there is curfew and they are protesting against you

We dont care about your beef law we just show you your face when you criticize our blasphemy laws

Why should French citizens of varying backgrounds in some cases of multiple backgrounds go to Pakistan ?
Were you born this way or did you apply for a special training program?

does any of your line make any sense? why dont you read it again ? If you still see any sense, then I guess, you really have to undergo some special training as Madrasa education might not have helped you to develop your thought process!

 

[Zibago]

does any of your line make any sense? why dont you read it again ? If you still see any sense, then I guess, you really have to undergo some special training as Madrasa education might not have helped you to develop your thought process!

Does your argument of resettlement of French citizens make sense they are French born and French nationals what ever good or bad they do is France,s problem not the problem of their countries of origin(in some cases Non Muslim one,s)