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Hafiz Saeed: Albatross around #Pakistan’s Neck?

Stop acting like I am an exception.

Indians solely become members on this forum to abuse Pakistan and Pakistanis. I am going to return the favor to disgusting creatures that are no better than animals mating in the wild.

You feel affection for RSS scum? Be my guest, but don't stop me from calling a spade a spade.

By what method? By calling rapistan. By calling them rapists. Is this how we will win discussion? Is our narrative so weak that we need to turn into rabid animals. I don't care what the Indian trolls do. We are not like them. Don't we have a sense of better.
.you are not calling spade to spade. You are doing the opposite. You are degrading my country, my culture and my religion.

I repeat. The moment you abuse somebody is the moment you have lost the argument and handed them a victory. .

Stop cursing and truly call spade to spade.

Now bring forth your argument as to why you believe hafiz saeed is right?

It can be simple sentences like the following.

" I believe he is innocent bcz there is no evidence or bcz he says so",

" I believe we should not play in the hands of west"

" I like his charitywork and his Kashmir stand and I support Kashmir freedom struggle"...

You can say any of the above and you will have held greater ground than with abuse.

I won't interfere anymore. But know that with each word you represent your country, religion, culture and your very identity. So don't curse and argue with points
 
This judgement may be too strong and harsh and sounds like another “conspiracy theory” from the opposite direction – especially the role of US and Israeli institutions – however his conclusions that Mumbai terrorism benefitted Indian institutions (Defense budget hiked by 21% immediately)
  1. Muslims were vilified
  2. Militarism increased in India
  3. War hysteria grew
  4. Muslims were increasingly targeted
It was most probably a false flag operation by the Hindu forces to malign Islam and Muslims. They have got away with it. The sustained propaganda against Pakistan and Hafiz is perhaps part of the plan.

I remember Ajmal Kasab taking the name of Bhagwan in a semi conscious state. No Muslim would do that.

In the end, many Muslims lost their lives in the attacks and those that followed. Tragic.
 
We've defined the problem as the same, but it appears that it isn't. Let me explain in another, separate post; I've got a fascinating video running and would like to finish watching it.



WHENEVER there has been any unfair accusation against my country or its military, I have defended it. I'm not a stooge, just a patriotic Indian who wants peace with honour with Pakistan. There's no question of being a white dove; I never said I was, nobody thinks I was. And I don't bow. I'm in my own country, not an unwelcome guest in somebody else's.

Unwelcome guest? LOL You are one pathetic fvck. The fact that you constantly have to mention my location and divert the discussion is for everyone to see.

You don't know my name and are ready to hand out verdicts about my background? LOL It reveals everything about your character.

I know enough about you. You are hypocrite who is judgemental and thinks he knows everything. You know nothing.
 
I think, Hafiz Saeed should be encouraged by India. The more he lives, the more youngsters in Pakistan he turns towards extremism and the more the State will spend controlling these 'non-state' jokers.

I say, more power to Hafeez! Open more madrassas funded by the pious soul in the hinterland of Pakistani Punjab.
Hindus should refrain from preaching. Pakistanis never voted for him. They voted for Bhuttos and Zardaris.
Only Hindus,Buddhists etc voted for Modi.
 
Unwelcome guest? LOL You are one pathetic fvck.

You don't know my name and are ready to hand out verdicts about my background? LOL It reveals everything about your character.

I know enough about you. You are hypocrite who is judgemental and thinks he knows everything. You know nothing.

LOL.

Considering that you represent the vast majority of members, I suppose you should be taken seriously.

And, if not, then not.

Get it?
 
LOL.

Considering that you represent the vast majority of members, I suppose you should be taken seriously.

And, if not, then not.

Get it?

Says the "professional" who can't win an argument, but has to constantly mention the location of members.

Stop acting like a godfather. You are just a dust particle like the rest.
 
Says the "professional" who can't win an argument, but has to constantly mention the location of members.

Stop acting like a godfather. You are just a dust particle like the rest.

Win an argument? Let me first thank Heavens that you know how to spell the word. What else do you know about argument? What you've contributed so far? That's been cvnt, Rapistan, rapist, and so on. What was the argument?
 
I remember Ajmal Kasab taking the name of Bhagwan in a semi conscious state. No Muslim would do that.
Do you believe he followed Islam so closely? Especially after killing innocent people for money?
If he could betray the teaching of his own religion for money, why he will not try to appease his captor by taking the name 'their god', to save his own ***.
The guy was a misfit youth, who was duped into doing horrible things by promise of petty rewards and money.

And he was not semiconcious
 
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Do you believe he followed Islam so closely? Especially after killing innocent people for money?
If he could betray the teaching of his own religion for money, why he will not try to appease his captor by taking the name 'their god', to save his own ***.
The guy was a misfit youth, who was duped into doing horrible things by promise of petty rewards and money. He was betrayed as there was no ex-fil option for the attackers.
If he was a false flagger, he was only a pawn.

Otherwise, he was a violent kid. We could have shown mercy and given him a life sentence. Hindu terrorists are let off in Indian courts for much worse.
 
If he was a false flagger, he was only a pawn.

Otherwise, he was a violent kid. We could have shown mercy and given him a life sentence. Hindu terrorists are let off in Indian courts for much worse.
In all probability he was a foreign terrorist -- most likely Pakistani national. Why should India have shown mercy? His crime was much bigger than killing people. It was that of attacking India.
 
It was an interesting read. Till the writer claimed Kasab spoke in a Marathi accent. He didn't. It was neither a Mumbai Marathi accent and certainly not a refine Puneri accent.

Next the writer claimed India did not give consular access to Kasab. This too is wrong.

https://www.outlookindia.com/newswire/story/wikileaks-pak-refused-consular-access-to-kasab/715211

http://www.dawn.com/news/850645

https://www.news18.com/news/india/pak-to-act-on-consular-access-for-kasab-after-probe-305232.html

https://www.topnews.in/india-ready-give-pakistan-consular-access-kasab-anand-sharma-2108210

And if as a journalist you can't find these, it means you are pretty much playing to the galleries.
 
Win an argument? Let me first thank Heavens that you know how to spell the word. What else do you know about argument? What you've contributed so far? That's been cvnt, Rapistan, rapist, and so on. What was the argument?

Don't talk about contribution. If you are so irked by these names, lecture your countrymen to stop trolling in this forum. Name calling will stop.

Stop this discussion now and remain on topic.

In all probability he was a foreign terrorist -- most likely Pakistani national. Why should India have shown mercy? His crime was much bigger than killing people. It was that of attacking India.

What should Pakistan do with Yadhav? An Indian national caught red-handed in the act of promoting terror against Pakistanis. He wasn't on a picknick in Pakistan.

Stop shedding crocodile tears. You know that every side has its own sins. Every person is naked in this hamaam.
 
In all probability he was a foreign terrorist -- most likely Pakistani national. Why should India have shown mercy? His crime was much bigger than killing people. It was that of attacking India.

You have no such proof.

With 26 local insurgencies. 3rd only behind Afghanistan and Iraq for terrorism afflection. India cannot hide behind a 'Pakistani' boogeyman.
 
You have no such proof.

With 26 local insurgencies. 3rd only behind Afghanistan and Iraq for terrorism afflection. India cannot hide behind a 'Pakistani' boogeyman.
For crying out loud, your country has accepted that he is a Pakistani. He was given consular access by India - Pakistan did not give him access. His family magically disappeared from their village.
 
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