Guess who India thinks is the best prime minister of all time??

[jamahir]

errr ..... back then there was no 24x7 media channel

Doesn't matter.

The fact stands that he was sympathetic to socialist thought.

His Father was a muslim. Jahangir Khan gandy.

His mother was a parsi (who converted) , but after his fathers death, he grew up in a parsi household.

Again, how does it matter ??

People like Sidhu and Sam Pitroda empower themselves. Pappu senior and pappu has no real role to play here except be a stepping stone for such people.

Pitroda brought in the telecom revolution which was partially responsible for the Indian IT revolution.

 

[Shankranthi]

Doesn't matter.

The fact stands that he was sympathetic to socialist thought.

Again, how does it matter ??

I never said any of that mattered, you were the one who made it seem that it mattered. Probably because it mattered to you.

Pitroda brought in the telecom revolution which was partially responsible for the Indian IT revolution.

Nope, Computers and telecom would have come into India with or without Pitroda.

Its like saying sanjay gandhi introduced cars to India

Nobody can "introduce" progress, they can only benefit by pretending that they are the lord and masters who brought it to poor uneducated Indians, the same way the "great" british brought the "Railways" to the poor unsophisticated Indians.

Such propaganda would have worked in the past, it does not work any more.

 

[jamahir]

I never said any of that mattered, you were the one who made it seem that it mattered. Probably because it mattered to you.

It does matter to me to say that the first Prime Minister of my country was irreligious to an extent.

Nope, Computers and telecom would have come into India with or without Pitroda.

Its like saying sanjay gandhi introduced cars to India

But Pitroda hastened introduction of telecom and IT. And this was under Rajiv Gandhi's leadership. At least this can be acknowledged.

As for Sanjay Gandhi and his Maruti program, it was not such a success, as far as I know.

 

[Novice09]

MODI DOES NOT BELIEVE IN FREEBIES AND APPEASEMENT... HE TRUST PEOPLE...

 

[Shankranthi]

It does matter to me to say that the first Prime Minister of my country was irreligious to an extent.

Nehru was a confused soul.

He had broad contempt for Hindus and Hinduism, but when it came to his daughters marriage, he first rejected Feroz gandhi because he was not a Hindu and then insisted that Indira gandhi marry him as per Hindu customs.

A total hypocrite.

Now compare that with Dr. Subramanian Swamy who has respect for Hindus and let his daughter marry a muslim without any fuss.

Yet its the uneducated Nehru who got a "gentleman's degree", who is called the "pandit" , while the erudite and secular Dr. Swamy is mocked.

But Pitroda hastened introduction of telecom and IT. And this was under Rajiv Gandhi's leadership. At least this can be acknowledged.

As for Sanjay Gandhi and his Maruti program, it was not such a success, as far as I know.

LOL..... what "hastened" ? Was India a world leader in the introduction of IT or Telecom ?

If not, then how did he "hasten" anything ?

If you want to "thank" rajiv gandhi for not saying "NO" to IT and Telecom and thereby "hasten" its introduction into India.

Then by that same logic you need to "Thank" every man who has said "No" to raping women too.

BTW Maruti is the leading car producer in India.

 

[jamahir]

Nehru was a confused soul.

He had broad contempt for Hindus and Hinduism, but when it came to his daughters marriage, he first rejected Feroz gandhi because he was not a Hindu and then insisted that Indira gandhi marry him as per Hindu customs.

A total hypocrite.

Maybe Nehru was scared of losing a good bit of his Hindu electorate if he allowed his daughter to at least not be married as per Hindu customs.

We don't know.

Now compare that with Dr. Subramanian Swamy who has respect for Hindus and let his daughter marry a muslim without any fuss.

Yet its the uneducated Nehru who got a "gentleman's degree", who is called the "pandit" , while the erudite and secular Dr. Swamy is mocked.

We don't know what went on in the Swamy household about the daughter's marriage.

LOL..... what "hastened" ? Was India a world leader in the introduction of IT or Telecom ?

If not, then how did he "hasten" anything ?

If you want to "thank" rajiv gandhi for not saying "NO" to IT and Telecom and thereby "hasten" its introduction into India.

Then by that same logic you need to "Thank" every man who has said "No" to raping women too.

Well, I believe old companies like Infosys and Sonata Software did benefit from the aftereffects of the telecom revolution.

BTW Maruti is the leading car producer in India.

Was it so in the 80s and 90s ??

Many people used Fiats and Ambassadors.

 

[Shankranthi]

Maybe Nehru was scared of losing a good bit of his Hindu electorate if he allowed his daughter to at least not be married as per Hindu customs.

We don't know.

LOL.... so basically he was playing "Jane dhari" nehru for the hindu votes.

How does that make him any different from Pappu ?

We don't know what went on in the Swamy household about the daughter's marriage.

Yes we know. His daughter has written about it and is on record that the decision was calmly accepted without any drama.

Well, I believe old companies like Infosys and Sonata Software did benefit from the aftereffects of the telecom revolution.

So ? Steel industry and consumer goods benefited due to the railways too. Does not mean British have to be thanked for that.

Was it so in the 80s and 90s ??

Many people used Fiats and Ambassadors.

That was before Maruti took off. It was Maruti who shut down the Fiat and AMbassadors.

 

[GHALIB]

Indira gandhi was the worst indian Prime minister for Pakistan. Was she good for India too ?
@Nilgiri , @jamahir

Her only achievement was Bangladesh, otherwise she imposed emergency , she destroyed democratic setup of Congress party , made Congress party a family Business , started family rule in indian politics.

That is a funny thing to say,

Nehru visiting Jaganath puri temple,

Nehru visiting Tirupathi Temple,

Nehru is the same Joker who INSISTED that his daughter marry her muslim husband as per Hindu customs.

Rahul Gandhi was the guy who made IBM QUIT India

Who said feroz gandhi was muslim ?

According to the Mood of the Nation survey conducted by India Today, Modi has emerged as the best prime minister of all time, garnering 26 per cent of the votes.


Who is the best Prime Minister of India? Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Indira Gandhi? No. For the people of the country, it is incumbent Prime Minister Narendra Modi who holds the pride of place in their hearts. According to the Mood of the Nation survey conducted by India Today, Modi has emerged as the best prime minister of all time, garnering 26 per cent of the votes. Just six votes behind is three-time Congress PM Indira Gandhi, while BJP stalwart Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who passed away last week, was voted as the third best prime minister.

Jawaharlal Nehru, who got only 10 per cent of the votes. JD(S) supremo HD Deve Gowda, who was the 11th PM of India, and PV Narasimha Rao were the least favoured prime minister. In all, four former prime ministers received just one per cent vote each — Deve Gowda, Rao, Chandrasekhar and VP Singh.



Across the religious divide, while Modi emerged as the favoured PM among Hindu voters, the Muslim community voted Indira Gandhi as their first choice leader. A total of 28 per cent Hindu voters backed Modi, while only 11 per cent Muslims voted for the BJP leader as PM. Gandhi was favoured by 26 per cent of Muslim voters.

Of the four broad regions in the country, Modi has been voted the most favoured PM in North and East India and is the joint first choice leader with Indira Gandhi in West India. However, Modi trails by three per cent in South India to Indira Gandhi, who received 26 per cent of the votes.


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Jawahar lal nehru

 

[jamahir]

LOL.... so basically he was playing "Jane dhari" nehru for the hindu votes.

How does that make him any different from Pappu ?

We can grant him this one thing, I think.

In the end, he didn't disallow his daughter's choice of husband.

But Rahul is overdoing it.

Yes we know. His daughter has written about it and is on record that the decision was calmly accepted without any drama.

Good then.

But why is Swamy so acidic ??

So ? Steel industry and consumer goods benefited due to the railways too. Does not mean British have to be thanked for that.

What is your objection in giving Rajiv Gandhi and Sam Pitroda their due ??

That was before Maruti took off. It was Maruti who shut down the Fiat and AMbassadors.

But I believe that was in the early 2000s or at least the late 90s.

 

[Shankranthi]

Who said feroz gandhi was muslim ?

Jawahar lal nehru

M.O. Mathai, Nethru's trusted right hand man/secretary and Lover of his daughter Indira Gandhi.

Also there are no parsis with the name Jahangir KHAN.

Also Feroz gandhi was never claimed by the parsi community, during his life or after his death.

Feroz was first Cremated as per hindu customs and then his ashes were buried in the parsi cemetery. Now parsi's never burn their dead. Feroz was never claimed by any community as their own even immediately after his death.

We can grant him this one thing, I think.

In the end, he didn't disallow his daughter's choice of husband.

But Rahul is overdoing it.

Actually Nehru did disallow it and Indira gandhi was head strong and had already married Feroz in london. Mahata Gandhi had to intervene to convince Nehru to say yes to the marriage and he did that most reluctantly.

In any case, what is good for the goose Nehru, should be good for the gander pappu.

Good then.

But why is Swamy so acidic ??

I am sure Dr. Swamy has his reasons. Maybe he does not like to suffer fools gladly.

What is your objection in giving Rajiv Gandhi and Sam Pitroda their due ??

I have no problem in giving anybody their due, but not more than what is due to them.

 

[GHALIB]

M.O. Mathai, Nethru's trusted right hand man/secretary and Lover of his daughter Indira Gandhi.

Also there are no parsis with the name Jahangir KHAN.

Also Feroz gandhi was never claimed by the parsi community, during his life or after his death.

Feroz was first Cremated as per hindu customs and then his ashes were buried in the parsi cemetery. Now parsi's never burn their dead. Feroz was never claimed by any community as their own even immediately after his death.

Some of Feroz gandhis relatives and family still lives in allahabad , they are parsis.
It is wish of the wife or son how they are cremated.

 

[Shankranthi]

Some of Feroz gandhis relatives and family still lives in allahabad , they are parsis.
It is wish of the wife or son how they are cremated.

All of them are from his mothers side. You can check it yourself.

Where is the family from his Fathers side ? CONgress has scrubbed it away completely. You will never be able to find it or dig it up.

Also your after death ritual is not left to the wife or son, its determined by the faith your practice. Unless you have left specific written instructions to the contrary.

 

[jamahir]

Actually Nehru did disallow it and Indira gandhi was head strong and had already married Feroz in london. Mahata Gandhi had to intervene to convince Nehru to say yes to the marriage and he did that most reluctantly.

In any case, what is good for the goose Nehru, should be good for the gander pappu.

All's well that ends well.

 

[GHALIB]

All of them are from his mothers side. You can check it yourself.

Where is the family from his Fathers side ? CONgress has scrubbed it away completely. You will never be able to find it or dig it up.

Also your after death ritual is not left to the wife or son, its determined by the faith your practice. Unless you have left specific written instructions to the contrary.

As per your information above feroz gandhis ashes are kept in parsi place , he was cremeted as per hindu rights, since he was married asper hindu rituals so he became hindu, what is objection? Those living allahabad are from his fathers side.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Nehru visiting Jaganath puri temple,

Puri declined entry to his daughter Indira as she married a non-Hindu and became a non-Hindu.