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Grounding A-10s will save $4.2 billion, decision ‘clear’: USAF general

A-10 was deigned when there were no UAV, thermal target pods, smart cluster bombs. Its still good against insurgency, but its way outdated against any normal army.

Since US is leaving Afghanistan soon there will be no need in A-10.
 
For months, US Air Force officials have used the adjective “hard” to describe their decision to ground entire fleets of aircraft in response to budget cuts.
Grounding A-10s will save $4.2 billion, decision ‘clear’: USAF general - 4/23/2014 - Flight Global
But on 23 April, USAF chief of staff Gen Mark Welsh says a review of the service’s options showed “very clearly” that grounding its Fairchild Republic A-10s is the right choice.

Speaking at a National Press Club event in Washington, DC, Welsh says the service evaluated a number of cost-cutting options against a “very detailed operational analyses” before making decisions.

“We came very clearly to the conclusion that of all those horrible options, the least operationally impactful was to divest the A-10,” Welsh says. “It makes perfect sense from a military perspective if you have to make these kind of cuts.”

The service’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal, which requires Congressional approval, proposes grounding all of its roughly 300 A-10s at a savings Welsh estimates to be $4.2 billion through fiscal year 2019.

The service has said other aircraft can fill the A-10’s close-air support mission, including Lockheed Martin F-16s and F-35s.

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The USAF also considered deferring more planned orders for Lockheed Martin F-35As, but Welsh says that option would drive up the cost of the programme. He adds that the service intends to continue funding other next-generation programmes like the Boeing KC-46 tanker and the long-range strike bomber programme.

Another choice was to cut the fleet of Boeing F-15C fighters beyond the current 51 aircraft on the chopping block.

“We are cutting F-15Cs, but we can’t eliminate the entire fleet or we can’t do the air superiority mission,” he says.

Reductions in funding for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) missions and for the service’s air mobility fleet were also considered, but Welsh says those missions already face a budget shortfall.

Also on the table: grounding the entire fleet of McDonnell Douglas KC-10 tankers.

“Without the KC-10s, you could [do the job] but it would be ugly and you would not have any flexibility whatsoever,” Welsh says. “The impact of that was simply too big on all the services.”

The same savings could be achieved by cutting three times as many Boeing KC-135 tankers.

“If you take three times as many KC-135s, you flat can’t do the job,” according to Welsh.

Other options included cutting command and control funding or grounding some long-range strike aircraft.

But Welsh says the USAF is the only service that can provide command and control on a “theatre scale”, and he says the US needs 80 to 100 strike platforms in the event of a large-scale war.

“That’s about how many we have today. They are aging, but we have the right number,” according to Welsh.

The USAF has created a transition plan that Welsh says would move other “hardware” into units that currently fly A-10s, but he did not elaborate.

“If we don’t divest the A-10s from those units, the plan will come unraveled…and we will start the planning over again,” he says.

How many are there... They should send to Pakistan.
 

Listen from 0:37 to 1:00 for the reasoning.

Anyone here can come up with a better option to cut $4.2 B if not A-10?
 
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Sniper Advance Targeting Pod at A-10C Units

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A-10s with LITENING
 
America can sell it to other countries
 
In 1978, Indonesia along with Egypt, Pakistan, Turkiye and Thailand had requested those means looking bird but the propose sales has been blocked by US Senate. I wish they will sale the excess to us after retiring those birds. It will be very useful to battering and halting any Chinese armored column in ASEAN region one day in foreseeable future.
 
In 1978, Indonesia along with Egypt, Pakistan, Turkiye and Thailand had requested those means looking bird but the propose sales has been blocked by US Senate. I wish they will sale the excess to us after retiring those birds. It will be very useful to battering and halting any Chinese armored column in ASEAN region one day in foreseeable future.
Better to give these 400 Planes along with Spares of old Aircraft to Indonesia, Malaysia, Philipines and Vietnam which can do that from US side. Along with $1.1 Billion budget to operate it.
 
The production of A-10 aircraft came to an end in 1984 after a total of 713 aircraft were produced. [I suppose 716 included preproduction or prototypes]. Untill recently, over 367 A-10 aircraft were in service with the US Air Force, Air Combat Command, the US Air Force Reserve and the Air National Guard. The aircraft variants in service in the US Air force were A-10 (143), and A-10C (70); Reserve A-10 (46) and OA-10 (6); ANG, A-10 (84) and OA-10 (18).
A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog) - Airforce Technology

Fri Mar 14, 2014: General Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, told a panel in the House of Representatives that eliminating the 283 tank-killer jets would save $3.7 billion over the next five years plus another $500 million in planned aircraft upgrades.
Air Force leaders defend move to retire popular 'Warthog' plane| Reuters

The numbers don't quite match
143+70=213 for USAF,
46+6=52 for AFRC and
102 for ANG
i.e. 265 for air force incl reserve versus 283)
but it gives an idea of the number in AF and ANG service.

From the A-10 wiki:

The A-10 has been flown exclusively by the USAF and its Air Reserve components, the AFRC and the ANG. The USAF operated 345 A-10 and OA-10 aircraft (191 in active duty, 106 in ANG, and 48 in AFRC, all variants) as of September 2011
So, there is some shifting about.

Four A-10s were shot down during the Gulf war (1991), all by surface-to-air missiles. Another three battle-damaged A-10s and OA-10As returned to base but were written off, some sustaining additional damage in crashed landings. During Operation Iraqi Freedom, in 2003, a single A-10 was shot down near Bagdad International Airport by Iraqi fire late in the campaign.

> 713-716 minus 8 equals 705-708

In 2012, the USAF proposed disbanding five A-10 squadrons in its budget request to cut its fleet of 348 A-10s by 102 to lessen cuts to multi-mission aircraft.
348-102=246, which is lower than above

In the Air Force's FY 2015 budget, the service is considering retiring the A-10 and other single-mission aircraft, prioritizing multi-mission aircraft; cutting a whole fleet and its infrastructure is seen as the only method for major savings. Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve members argued that allocating all A-10s to their control would achieve savings; half of the fleet is operated by the Air National Guard. The US Army also expressed interest in obtaining A-10s.

Capt. Kim Campbell assesses the damage to her A-10 "Warthog" one day after it was hit by enemy fire over Baghdad, Iraq. USAF Photo by Staff Sgt. Jason Haag
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MOre here: Story about Battle Damaged A-10
 

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