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Grim forecast for computer, tablet sales takes a turn for the worse - CNET

When was the last time you were excited about a tablet or PC?

That's an enduring question the consumer electronics industry has to grapple with, and the news isn't getting any better: Research firm IDC on Wednesday forecast that sales of both products will fall faster than previously expected. PC shipments are expected to tumble 8.7 percent this year, and won't stabilize until 2017. Tablets, meanwhile, will see an 8 percent decline in shipments.

The sobering forecast underscores a broader problem in the industry: an overall lack of excitement and enthusiasm in either the tablet or PC markets. Consumers are hanging onto their old PCs and tablets longer -- and why not? There have been few innovations in the tablet business to drive a new purchase, and the 3-year-old Window 8 software for laptops and desktops was never much of a lure. Microsoft's decision to offer free upgrades to its new Windows 10 software, which debuted in late July, meant most consumers didn't need a new device to take advantage of its latest bells and whistles.

The PC business has struggled for years as consumers and businesses spent their money elsewhere, including smartphones. But the market has also been beset by a glut of inventory, a lack of new models and a spike in the currency exchange rate that made the devices even pricier. As a result, IDC said it sees the market slowing further next year before showing a "modest recovery" in 2017.

By then, a new wave of products and the end of the free Windows 10 upgrade should help to bolster sales. Microsoft's move to go back to its roots with Windows 10 and de-emphasize the touchscreen may spur renewed interest in the familiar PC, said IDC analyst Jay Chou.

Microsoft said Wednesday that Windows 10 has now been installed on 75 million devices.

Tablets, meanwhile, have hit a wall as businesses have stood off from embracing them. Even Apple isn't immune; its iPad has seen six consecutive quarterly declines in shipments. While tablets were the hot market just a few years ago, interest has waned with the industry offering few reasons to upgrade. Apple's biggest innovations have been to make the iPad slightly thinner and lighter. Samsung, which previously held splashy events to launch its Galaxy tablets, now quietly announces them with an emailed press release.

Businesses have been reluctant to adopt tablets because it's not clear what value they bring. In addition, IDC said it expects the average selling price of tablets to fall thanks to the proliferation of low-cost tablets running Google's Android software.

Hope for the future?
There has been one bright spot. Hybrid devices that combine the touchscreen of a tablet but the capabilities of a full PC -- also known as 2-in-1 devices -- have surged in popularity. The mashup of these two categories may prove to be the future for both markets, a turnaround from a just a few years ago.

"In the past, the biggest challenges with 2-in-1 devices were high price points, less than appealing designs, and, quite frankly, lack of demand for Windows 8," said IDC analyst Ryan Reith.

That's changed. IDC said it expects sales of 2-in-1 devices to grow 86.5 percent to 14.7 million units shipped in 2015, though that isn't enough to slow the broader decline in the tablet business.

Apple could likewise provide a shot in the arm for the market if, as rumored, it unveils a larger iPad meant for businesses. Windows 10 is also better suited for a 2-in-1 device, according to IDC, which calls for a flurry of launches in the coming months.

IDC expects the industry to ship a total of 212 million tablets and 281.6 million PCs this year.
 
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And this article in no way explains or even attempts to explain the difference between a PC and a tablet. Both are separate products and should be considered as separate. As for tablet, I am still using my almost 3.5 years old iPad, and I just dont feel the need to upgrade it, in fact I feel that I had wasted my money as I do not see much utilization for it.

Now lets look at PC's, unlike a tablet where you buy a whole product and as a consumer you're unable to update any of the hardware, but PC are different creatures all together. What component of PC's are showing a decline in sales, motherboards, processors, Rams, HDD etc etc, the article never touched those.

As a consumer of desktop grade machines, I feel I have more options when I am building my PC from ground up rather than buying one from HP, DELL, or AlienWare, as for businesses they dont upgrade their workstations on yearly bases unless requirements dictate.
 
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And this article in no way explains or even attempts to explain the difference between a PC and a tablet. Both are separate products and should be considered as separate. .

There were forecasts internal to Dell and HP (for their product design, etc) which said, starting 2020, the US households will no longer have desktops and laptops. This would be similar to VCR transitioning to the DVD players.

One of your TV's in your house will act like a server and the only private devices you'll have, will be tablets and portable Silicon based projection screen devices (very small, kind of like a make your display where you want to sit, similar to newer fighter jet's HUD's), plus phones and watches. But definitely, desktops and laptops are history starting 2020.

Each household is estimated to have about 30 sensors on average such as your consumer electronics, tv's dvd, home security, laptops, tablets, etc, and these will all consolidate to be used through a cable box or a TV as a server.
 
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well there is some niches. for instance APUs systems. mini-PCs, and thumbstick PCs

think the reason PC sales are lagging is because you really don't need to upgrade to a whole knew system every few years. CPUs aren't becoming insanely better than the previous generation, case in point a i5 2500k vs a i5 4690k is it worth the upgrade???


only think keeping the PC market interesting is GPUs and SSDs
 
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There were forecasts internal to Dell and HP (for their product design, etc) which said, starting 2020, the US households will no longer have desktops and laptops. This would be similar to VCR transitioning to the DVD players.

One of your TV's in your house will act like a server and the only private devices you'll have, will be tablets and portable Silicon based projection screen devices (very small, kind of like a make your display where you want to sit, similar to newer fighter jet's HUD's), plus phones and watches. But definitely, desktops and laptops are history starting 2020.

Each household is estimated to have about 30 sensors on average such as your consumer electronics, tv's dvd, home security, laptops, tablets, etc, and these will all consolidate to be used through a cable box or a TV as a server.

I think HP and DELL got the death part of laptops way way wrong, laptops are still going strong and getting more portable. Currently TV's are more focused towards resolution as compared to act as a central device controlling all other connected devices. laptops will stay, for another decade or so, as for smart watches in my opinion they are nothing but gimmicks, even apple watch didn't turn out to be a game changer as many were speculating it as to be. For watches things might change once they become completely independent of pairing with phones even than the screen size would be an issue.

This is the first time I am reading that TV would be the central device to control all other connected devices, that might be the future as death of cable TV is inevitable and the process is irreversible.

The tablet was always a non-starter if it would not have been for marketing genius of apple (read iPAD) !
Yes and No. Tablets would only make sense if they were to replace laptops all together. But non of the tablets is capable of replacing a laptop, for the most part tablets are performing same functions and utility as a smartphone and most people dont feel the need for having a tablet and phone together.

well there is some niches. for instance APUs systems. mini-PCs, and thumbstick PCs

think the reason PC sales are lagging is because you really don't need to upgrade to a whole knew system every few years. CPUs aren't becoming insanely better than the previous generation, case in point a i5 2500k vs a i5 4690k is it worth the upgrade???


only think keeping the PC market interesting is GPUs and SSDs
Usually most of the consumers dont upgrade components of their PC's that regularly. HDD/SDD capacity might be the only thing that is updated by most of the users.
I was using Sandy Bridge since 2011 and it is only now that I upgraded my CPU to a devils canyon, for 4 years a HD6850 GPU was more than enough for my gaming needs.
A term that is overused in context of PC's is "Bottle Neck", from evidence available the term rarely applies to desktop users, may be as a gamer who wants bragging rights and needs to keep some face, you would be updating your GPU every 6 months, most of the consumers are happy with their systems for atleast few years.
 
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I would hope that translates to a cost reduction at least around Black Friday.
The rig I want is currently 3.5K and I am not spending that much.
 
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I think HP and DELL got the death part of laptops way way wrong, laptops are still going strong and getting more portable. Currently TV's are more focused towards resolution as compared to act as a central device controlling all other connected devices. laptops will stay, for another decade or so, as for smart watches in my opinion they are nothing but gimmicks, even apple watch didn't turn out to be a game changer as many were speculating it as to be. .

- Desktop's shelf life (about 90% of them) is about 5 more years. Your tablets will do all that you need done on a Desktop. Plus, the tablets will project too, so you could turn any wall into a smaller movie theater or a monitor with LED projections.

- Laptop's life is left about 7-8 years more.

- Tablets will stay for about 10 - 12 years. Phones, Watches will all come with the HUD type projection capability so any wall, any paper, any empty space can be turned into a monitor through LED beams. What's more interesting is, you could create a HUD from these phones or watches in the air above your phone's or watches.
 
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- Desktop's shelf life (about 90% of them) is about 5 more years. Your tablets will do all that you need done on a Desktop. Plus, the tablets will project too, so you could turn any wall into a smaller movie theater or a monitor with LED projections.

Yes for an average user, 5 years is about the shelf life, but for an average gamer, 3.5 years the top without any upgrade.
Sorry but tablets just do not cut, if that was the case desktops might have been part of history by now. Tablets can perform lot of functions but by no means they are to considered as complete replacement of desktops, for the time being.

- Laptop's life is left about 7-8 years more.
No I dont think so. Most of the laptops will start to give way within 2 years of purchase. Wear and tear is more than enough to make it as cranky as a grandma on periods, lol.


- Tablets will stay for about 10 - 12 years. Phones, Watches will all come with the HUD type projection capability so any wall, any paper, any empty space can be turned into a monitor through LED beams. What's more interesting is, you could create a HUD from these phones or watches in the air above your phone's or watches.

Well that would be great, but for now this is more of science fiction.
 
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The rig I want is currently 3.5K and I am not spending that much.
Cool man, what you plan to do ? Building a Octa core multi cpu system with tonnes of ram rigged up with SLI cards :what:.
 
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Laptops are like 3-4yrs
PC - 5-8yrs Keep upgrading ram, hdd etc and it goes on.
Tablets - Till you dont drop

Many schools, colleges and offices are now moving towards to Raspberry Pi's for there just web browsing and office related actions. With cloud based storage its much cheaper to own and electricity bill is negligible :)
With LED Screens getting made in India, rPI+screen+keyboard+mouse will be less than 8k desktop. Win win institutions who want low cost basic computing.

Desktop PC's will be probably replaced by powerfull POC's
I am very excited to see how that $9 CHIP performs :)

Checkout Remix OS Remix OS - Work. Play. Together.
Looks a decent OS for Android based devices which can be connected to external screens or atleast pads
 
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Full featured PCs in tablet form factor , along the lines of Microsoft Surface Pro 3 which can do 3D MMO gaming as well as other general purpose usage , may still create more sales
 
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I would hope that translates to a cost reduction at least around Black Friday.
The rig I want is currently 3.5K and I am not spending that much.

What type and need you need it for?

A custom DIY hard core rig shouldn't be more than 2000k, unless you are eyeing the Trashcan inspired MAC Pro.

- Desktop's shelf life (about 90% of them) is about 5 more years. Your tablets will do all that you need done on a Desktop. Plus, the tablets will project too, so you could turn any wall into a smaller movie theater or a monitor with LED projections.

- Laptop's life is left about 7-8 years more.

- Tablets will stay for about 10 - 12 years. Phones, Watches will all come with the HUD type projection capability so any wall, any paper, any empty space can be turned into a monitor through LED beams. What's more interesting is, you could create a HUD from these phones or watches in the air above your phone's or watches.

Tablets will never be able to compete with High performance desktops. No way you can shrink that much computing and graphics power and keep it cool.

If you are talking about cloud based services, then yes. But for us, gamers, Tablets will always be shyt. Or for anyone in professional design services.
 
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