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Govt to pay Rs3.6 trillion on defence, debt servicing

Defence budget should be reduced to 6-7 billion usd. egyptian military has better equipment than us, has about the same numbers that we have, and if they can manage such a huge military in that amount, so should we.


Federal govt should have a share of at least 20% in all fauji foundation/ askari group businesses.
there is no space to do it...about 30% is pensions..

in long run by increasing the age of service from 20 to 25 years and by decreasing the army size from 660,000 to 50000 will produce some space for decrease


eygpt all f16s are aid and recent acquisition was saudi money, there size is much smaller and their budget doesnt include pensions, with that it is higher than pak army
 
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No need for any private army, we already have multiple paramilitary forces which are assigned such tasks.No need to reduce the defence budget instead the government should increase the Defence budget by 4-5% annually instead of 15-20% increment every year,I understand that our defence budget is already low compared to other countries but still our economy is really weak at the moment.
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I respect and love the armed forces but sorry to say at one end the military says that we don't have funds to purchase high tech military hardware on the other hand it's spending millions on decorating bases and cantonments. Example the air force's just recently renovated PAF Base Faisals( North gate) and instead of a base entrance it looks more like some sort of disneyland entrance, why so much showoff ?
Strong militaries like u.s are also reducing size of their army and investing in unmanned technology like drones which are much cheaper and efficient than employing army personnels as they not need salaries and after retirement benefits.We should raise voluntary army of Mujahids who belong to people from various fields and should be given proper training and they should be registered so in event of any war they can provide a large fighting force and it also reduce cost as no salary and after retirement benefits are required for them this help to reduce size of reserve force and proper army should be used to operate high tech equipments ordinary gunbattle can be easily fought by voluntary army.In Islam every citizen has obligation to fight for nation in event of war and withdrawing from Jihad is greatest sin but unfortunately we have limited Jihad only to army due to moving away from Islamic teachings
 
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ISLAMABAD:
The federal government would pay a whopping Rs3.6 trillion on account of defence and debt servicing that is equal to 68.2% of the current fiscal year’s revised budget, the centre on Wednesday sensitised the provinces about the grave fiscal situation that has thrown the country into a debt trap.


After excluding debt servicing and defence related obligations, the net federal revenues for fiscal year 2018-19 are negative Rs632 billion, Federal Secretary Finance Arif Ahmad Khan briefed the four provinces during the first meeting of the ninth National Finance Commission (NFC).

The NFC meeting included a detailed presentation by the federal finance secretary, focusing on the country’s overall current fiscal position.

The federal government’s total gross revenues are estimated at Rs5.5 trillion. Out of this sum, the provinces will get Rs2.581 trillion as their share in the federal divisible pool. This leaves the net federal revenues at Rs3 trillion but the cumulative spending on just two heads – debt and defence – is Rs3.62 trillion.

Since the debt and defence spending are equal to 121% of the net federal revenues, the finance ministry borrows to pay salaries, pensions, run hospitals, schools and build roads. Every penny that the centre spends on development is borrowed from the banks and foreign lenders.

Compared with negative Rs632-billion revenue of the federal government, the net revenue, after excluding interest payments of the provinces, is positive Rs583 billion for this fiscal year. Under the existing constitutional arrangement, defence is the responsibility of the centre.

Against the stated defence budget of Rs1.1 trillion, the finance ministry told the NFC that by the end of fiscal year 2019, Rs1.676 trillion would be spent on defence that is equal to 31.5% of the federal budget. This is the second biggest charge on the budget after debt servicing.

The Rs1.676-trillion defence expenditures are inclusive of pensions, strategic nature expenses and special military packages, according to the finance ministry’s presentation.

Similarly, against Rs1.842-trillion budgeted cost of debt servicing, the finance ministry told the provinces that the debt servicing would consume minimum Rs1.95 trillion, or 36.6%, of the total budget. The central bank’s decision to increase interest rates also put additional burden of roughly Rs500 billion on the finance ministry due to high cost of borrowing.

The cumulative spending on these debt and defence has been projected at Rs3.621 trillion, or 68.2%, of the budget by the finance ministry.

Such an alarming situation of the federal fiscal operations showed that the centre was not in a position to surrender any amount out of its 42.5% share in the federal divisible pool. But the provinces want to increase their pie.

The finance ministry has projected the size of the budget at Rs5.38 trillion for this fiscal year and showed the federal fiscal deficit at Rs2.4 trillion or 6.3% of GDP.

“Until resources are increased, neither the provinces nor the centre can achieve its targets,” said Finance Minister Asad Umar after the NFC meeting.

Punjab’s technical member NFC Dr Salman Shah said the overall debt has increased to Rs30 trillion and this carried huge implications for the federal government as someone has to finance it.

The finance ministry took a position in the NFC that the fiscal sustainability was at the heart of the economic and social management. It was of the view that imprudent fiscal management led to worsening external account, unsustainable economic growth and increase in prices and accumulation of debt.

In its presentation, the Ministry of Finance projected the FBR’s revenues at Rs4.417 trillion while the other revenues were shown at Rs1.15 trillion. The gross revenue receipts that were equal to 12.1% of GDP in 2012 have now increased to Rs14.8% of GDP.

But the stick and inelasticity in expenditures, like defence and debt servicing, kept the budget deficit towards the higher end. The total federal expenditures that were Rs3 trillion or equal to 15.2% of GDP in 2012 have now increased to Rs5.4 trillion. The high debt and defence servicing adversely impacted the federal development spending that was Rs317 billion, or 1.6%, of GDP in 2012 will now go down to 1.5% of GDP at the end of this fiscal year. In absolute terms, the finance ministry has projected the federal development spending at Rs575 billion in this fiscal year.

Total gross revenues of the four provinces have been projected at only Rs654 billion in this fiscal year. The four provinces have been projected to pay Rs71 billion in interest payments, leaving their net revenues, excluding interest payments at Rs583 billion.

But Sindh Chief Minister Murad Ali Shah on Wednesday blamed the FBR for this poor fiscal performance. He was of the view that the provinces showed 26% growth in collection of sales tax on services during the past five years, which was double the growth rate in collection of sales tax on goods by the FBR.

Published in The Express Tribune, February 7th, 2019.
disband the Armed Services, let India take Pakistan. Problem solved! you will love Indian rule.
here is a typical paradisaical Muslim township in Bombay, India:
WTF 31 % ?
The army earns Billion of USD through different businesses which are run under the umbrella of Fauji Foundation but the question I have in mind is that why doesn't Fouji foundation contribute some amount to help manage the defence budget and also the military procurements. We know that Pakistan is facing serious Economic crisis at this moment auji foundation should contribute few Bn USD annually and help remove this pressure from the federal budget.
-Someone please answer the above question and also what would be the estimate net worth of Military run businesses ?
prove it with some facts an figures, instead of just repeating random nonsense posted elsewhere on this here and other forums and blogs on internet
 
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there is no space to do it...about 30% is pensions..

in long run by increasing the age of service from 20 to 25 years and by decreasing the army size from 660,000 to 50000 will produce some space for decrease


eygpt all f16s are aid and recent acquisition was saudi money, there size is much smaller and their budget doesnt include pensions, with that it is higher than pak army
Pension is covered in a separate head. Pensions are not given from the defence budget. And fauji foundation and askari businesses should start handling the pensions now.
 
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Pension is covered in a separate head. Pensions are not given from the defence budget. And fauji foundation and askari businesses should start handling the pensions now.
does it matter..what matters that its counted as defence part, out of 5700 billion govt revnues 1600 billion go to defence(1300+300 of pension)
 
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Official fiscal deficit is 6.3%. wonder what will be real fiscal deficit.
 
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there is no space to do it...about 30% is pensions..

in long run by increasing the age of service from 20 to 25 years and by decreasing the army size from 660,000 to 50000 will produce some space for decrease


eygpt all f16s are aid and recent acquisition was saudi money, there size is much smaller and their budget doesnt include pensions, with that it is higher than pak army

What should be the retired age?

*Border Security force for western border covering Iran and Afghanistan border.

*Pakistan homeland Security agency

*FiA

*Police should have multiple forces, for example, Elite force, Rapid reaction force, Special unit, etc.

*We need a separate national force (Paramilitary) should be responsible for internal security issues. Ranger should not be limited to Punjab and Sindh, they should cover whole Pakistan. They should have branch for each province and they should have men from each province. For example, Ranger from KPK should have majority of Pashto speaking. In Balochistan Ranger should have both Pashto and Balochi speaking, same goes for Gilgit Baltistan and Sindh, to avoid being labeled as Punjabi Rangers. All the other paramilitary force should merged with Rangers (for budgeting and accountability issues).

Paramilitary force = 400,000

If all of these are working properly then we can reduce army size.


Army = 400,000 active and 350,000 reserved

Airforce = 45,000 active and 10,000 reserved

Navy = 30,000 active and 5,000 reserved

Marines = 15,000 active and 5,000 reserved

Coast guard = 5,000 active


What do you think?
 
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