Govt. Cabinet Reshuffle

[Star Wars]

The outgoing folks are

Nihalchand, Ram Shankar Katheria, Sanwar Lal Jat, Manuskhbhai D Vasva and M K Kundariya


No change in Defense, Finance, External Affairs and home Ministry

 

[The_Showstopper]

The reshuffle will require the resignation of a few ministers, since the council can have only 82. While currently, there are 66 ministers including the Prime Minister, sources said there could be as many as six exits.

So much for minimum government and maximum governance. Jhumla from day 1

 

[DesiGuy1403]

So much for minimum government and maximum governance. Jhumla from day 1

The reshuffle will require the resignation of a few ministers, since the council can have only 82. While currently, there are 66 ministers including the Prime Minister, sources said there could be as many as six exits.

So much for minimum government and maximum governance. Jhumla from day 1

How does minimum governance refer to no of ministers?

Did Kejriwal bite you by any chance?

This idiotic ramblings is why AAP and it's supporters have spectacularly lost their base.

 

[Nilgiri]

Nice to see MJ Akbar included.

Probably gives Tipu lover a lot of heartburn.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Nice to see MJ Akbar included.

Probably gives Tipu lover a lot of heartburn.

Why indulge in personal attacks. Don't have guts to debate properly?

Tell me what does minimum government mean?

 

[Nilgiri]

Why indulge in personal attacks. Don't have guts to debate properly?

Tell me what does minimum government mean?

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Something like this?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/transfer-posting-raj-ends/1/531599.html

Something a nepotism ridden cancer like congress can never even dream about doing?

Minimum govt always largely referred to the bureaucracy....not the cabinet and highest ministers (who are like 0.00001% of total govt workers).

It is the total delivery and quality of the highest level ministers (and not their total number which is pretty irrelevant to size of govt as a whole) that along with more merit based appointments in the bureaucracy will leader to maximum governance from minimum government.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Something like this?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/transfer-posting-raj-ends/1/531599.html

Something a nepotism ridden cancer like congress can never even dream about doing?

Good to know that... But you are yet explain me what minimum government means?

And what are your views on Criminals being inducted into ministry...

 

[Nilgiri]

Good to know that... But you are yet explain me what minimum government means?

And what are your views on Criminals being inducted into ministry...

I added my explanation now.

What criminals are being inducted? Have they been convicted like Laloo?

 

[The_Showstopper]

I added my explanation now.

What criminals are being inducted? Have they been convicted like Laloo?

Any source to support your explanation?

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Any source to support your explanation?

huh...it's a simple question.
Is anyone in Modi's cabinet convicted?

 

[Nilgiri]

Any source to support your explanation?

The transfer raj reform already posted is one indication. The rest you can search for articles regarding how Modi runs his cabinet and administration and compare it to previous administration with an open mind. Examples:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-...ts-to-drive-out-termite-like-graft-1439630353

http://articles.economictimes.india...732735_1_task-force-reform-plan-digital-india

http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/2457-2016-modi-s-year-governance-reform

Now I would like to ask who are the criminals in the cabinet or council of ministers?

 

[The_Showstopper]

huh...it's a simple question.
Is anyone in Modi's cabinet convicted?

Well Modi's site refers as follows...

For decades, we have had extraordinarily large governments while ironically the quality of governance has been quite poor. There has been more attention paid to the size of the government and not so much to its quality.

He clearly speaks about size(numerical) portion....

Source: http://www.narendramodi.in/minimum-government-maximum-governance-3162

You and me very well know that those convicted are ineligible to fight elections forget about ministries. I am referring to serious criminal charges....

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Well Modi's site refers as follows...

For decades, we have had extraordinarily large governments while ironically the quality of governance has been quite poor. There has been more attention paid to the size of the government and not so much to its quality.

He clearly speaks about size(numerical) portion....

Source: http://www.narendramodi.in/minimum-government-maximum-governance-3162

You and me very well know that those convicted are ineligible to fight elections forget about ministries. I am referring to serious criminal charges....

He was talking about quality, isn't that quite clear?
Let me know if you have had a better power, railway, infra, foreign and defense minister in decades.

After the atrocious RTE act, I would add even HRD as well

 

[Nilgiri]

Well Modi's site refers as follows...

For decades, we have had extraordinarily large governments while ironically the quality of governance has been quite poor. There has been more attention paid to the size of the government and not so much to its quality.

He clearly speaks about size(numerical) portion....

Source: http://www.narendramodi.in/minimum-government-maximum-governance-3162

You and me very well know that those convicted are ineligible to fight elections forget about ministries. I am referring to serious criminal charges....

Someone facing criminal charges is NOT a criminal till he is convicted. So its another rubbish argument unless you have no faith in our court system.

As far as the maximum governance, minimum government philosophy goes, it is about extracting the most delivery from every govt worker. The vast bulk of these (numbers wise) come from the bureaucracy, NOT the top level ministry and cabinet.

So what you were doing earlier by trying to say the philosophy is not being followed because Modi is increasing the number of top level ministers is quite silly since these represent a tiny tiny fraction compared to the lower level bureaucracy (IAS etc.) and infact you would probably have to increase the number of quality top level ministers so they can better implement the philosophy in their departments and monitor and improve internal efficiencies by implementing merit based and performance based measuring.

Obviously as that permeates, the extra "fat" of the bureaucracy will be skimmed off with time as the inefficient and incompetent bureaucrats are shown the door and efficient, hard working and result delivering ones are rewarded and promoted and allowed more responsbility and independence.

That is the whole system in a nutshell that Modi is trying to implement in a long term sustained way. It wont come overnight, but at least he is trying (and results are showing)....that is infinitely more than what scamgress did ....considering full fledged CABINET ministers were involved in all sorts of scams....so forget about them even pausing to think about streamlining bureaucracy....they actually benefited from having a bloated inefficient bureaucracy so their more visible ministers would look good by comparison.

Is that any way to run a govt? And with that in mind you are going to nitpick an increase in the size of council of ministers as though India's bureaucracy membership can be counted on one hand?

 

[The_Showstopper]

Someone facing criminal charges is NOT a criminal till he is convicted. So its another rubbish argument unless you have no faith in our court system.

As far as the maximum governance, minimum government philosophy goes, it is about extracting the most delivery from every govt worker. The vast bulk of these (numbers wise) come from the bureaucracy, NOT the top level ministry and cabinet.

So what you were doing earlier by trying to say the philosophy is not being followed because Modi is increasing the number of top level ministers is quite silly since these represent a tiny tiny fraction compared to the lower level bureaucracy (IAS etc.) and infact you would probably have to increase the number of quality top level ministers so they can better implement the philosophy in their departments and monitor and improve internal efficiencies by implementing merit based and performance based measuring.

Obviously as that permeates, the extra "fat" of the bureaucracy will be skimmed off with time as the inefficient and incompetent bureaucrats are shown the door and efficient, hard working and result delivering ones are rewarded and promoted and allowed more responsbility and independence.

That is the whole system in a nutshell that Modi is trying to implement in a long term sustained way. It wont come overnight, but at least he is trying (and results are showing)....that is infinitely more than what scamgress did ....considering full fledged CABINET ministers were involved in all sorts of scams....so forget about them even pausing to think about streamlining bureaucracy....they actually benefited from having a bloated inefficient bureaucracy so their more visible ministers would look good by comparison.

Is that any way to run a govt? And with that in mind you are going to nitpick an increase in the size of council of ministers as though India's bureaucracy membership can be counted on one hand?

You do know that our justice system and its present drawbacks, Till the time you get a conviction, these goons are either dead or almost dead. What are your views on Tytler and Kamal nath? Are they also innocent? What's your view on Sonia Gandhi and Vadhra, Are they innocent?

And speaking about your views on governance, it is your personal opinion, can't see much of a difference on ground... All of a sudden the "minimum government maximum governance" has a different meaning, Now its the bureaucracy...

LOL look at what was said then...