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When Barack Obama inked the National Defense Authorization Act on New Year’s Eve, the president insisted that he wouldn’t use the terrifying legislation against American citizens. Another new law, however, could easily change all of that.

If the Enemy Expatriation Act passes in its current form, the legislation will let the government strike away citizenship for anyone engaged in hostilities, or supporting hostilities, against the United States. The law itself is rather brief, but in just a few words it warrants the US government to strip nationality status from anyone they identify as a threat.

What’s more, the government can decide to do so without bringing the suspected troublemaker before a court of law.

Under the legislation, “hostilities” are defined as “any conflict subject to the laws of war” and does not explicitly state that charges against suspects go to court.

When Obama signed NDAA on December 31, the president said that his administration “will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens.” Added the president, “Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation.” But by breaking off ties between citizens — American-born or otherwise — the harsh realities of NDAA can be forced on anyone in the US if Washington decides that it is in the country’s best interest.

The National Defense Authorization Act drew widespread opposition despite a lack of media cover due to the capabilities in bestows in the administration. Under NDAA, the government can indefinitely imprison anyone deemed dangerous by Washington and hold them without trial. After criticism led to massive online campaigns and protests, President Obama addressed the issue and said specifically that his administration would not understand the law as such. Instead, said Obama, “My administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.”

Some are now saying that Obama’s attempt at discrediting the NDAA by insisting that he would not use it against American citizens came only as a precursor to the latest Act. By adding his signing statement to the NDAA, the president insured that legislation such as the Enemy Expatriation Act would surface to strike any limitations that would have kept Americans free from military detainment. “I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds to me like this is a loophole for indefinitely detaining Americans,” Stephen . Foster, Jr. writes on the AddictionInfo.org website. “Once again, you just have to be accused of supporting hostilities which could be defined any way the government sees fit. Then the government can strip your citizenship and apply the indefinite detention section of the NDAA without the benefit of a trial.”

The bill, currently being passed through Congress, is sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA).

Government could strip citizenship from Americans under Enemy Expatriation Act — RT

Good luck ABCDs :)
 
The law itself is rather brief, but in just a few words it warrants the US government to strip nationality status from anyone they identify as a threat.

What’s more, the government can decide to do so without bringing the suspected troublemaker before a court of law.

I have no trouble stripping citizenship from a person who becomes a combatant, but there should be due process first.
 
What your government will do to those guys after stripping citizenship?
 
There was all the rhetoric on the right (Republican side) that Al-Queda wanted to change the "American way of Life". I think the very same people who said that are changing the "American way of Life", but stripping habeas corpus one string at a time.

what is more disappointing is that Barack Obama, signing it and in the signing statement declare that he would not use this against US Citizen. Grow some balls and get a new Bill Mr.President.

The Republicans are right about one thing, Obama does not have a Spine.
 
If you strip citizenship from a person having none other, then that person becomes truly stateless.

Where is he supposed to go then ? Sail the high seas as a pirate ?
 
I have no trouble stripping citizenship from a person who becomes a combatant, but there should be due process first.

What about those unjustly deemed threats?
Or those that were framed at home?

Picking up a gun against your own country is becoming a combatant, but what about critique?
since that too lands many in jail.
 
What about those unjustly deemed threats?
Or those that were framed at home?

Like any correct law that sanctions a citizen, the due process portion would analyze and perhaps try, in open court, the offenses. Further, I'd expect a no B.S. list of crimes that might result in such a revocation.

When you say "framed", I'd hope the system would recognize and correct for this. But like all human processes, there will always be imperfections.

Picking up a gun against your own country is becoming a combatant, but what about critique?
since that too lands many in jail.

Criticism is protected under the first amendment. Criticism that extends to incitement to violence has never been protected speech. It's not hard to determine this. Use the "reasonable person" logical approach.
 
If the Enemy Expatriation Act passes in its current form, the legislation will let the government strike away citizenship for anyone engaged in hostilities, or supporting hostilities, against the United States. The law itself is rather brief, but in just a few words it warrants the US government to strip nationality status from anyone they identify as a threat.

What’s more, the government can decide to do so without bringing the suspected troublemaker before a court of law.

No due process?

Here we come Mooslums!

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I have no trouble stripping citizenship from a person who becomes a combatant, but there should be due process first.
Would you also apply that to criminal gangs, drug related violent crime etc. ?
 
Would you also apply that to criminal gangs, drug related violent crime etc. ?

Already answered. Criminals that are convicted lose rights, but retain basic citizenship.

This isn't that tough. The bill is directed at traitors. Societies generally really hate traitors. Nothing new here. All I want to see is due process and oversight so there are no abuses.
 
Picking up a gun against your own country is becoming a combatant, but what about critique?
since that too lands many in jail.
Without due process, that is precisely what nutjobs such as Cheney in a US administration are likely to resort to - though I suspect that the law itself would be used more for xenophobic 'religio-cultural' cleansing potentially, rather than any actual use against 'enemy combatants'.

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Already answered. Criminals that are convicted lose rights, but retain basic citizenship.

This isn't that tough. The bill is directed at traitors. Societies generally really hate traitors. Nothing new here. All I want to see is due process and oversight so there are no abuses.
How do you define a traitor?
 
Tell me why you edited my post first. There was a whole paragraph cut from it.
 

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