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The Problem With Google's Potential $6 Billion European Union Fine

The long running investigations by the European Union into Google and the company activities have taken another twist. Now the EU is insisting that unless Google comes up with a better settlement offer there will be a more formal investigation and that could lead to a fine of as much as $6 billion: 10% of the firms’ annual, global, turnover. However, we’ve a serious problem here: no one has managed to show as yet that Google actually deserves a fine of anything. Not only that no one has as yet managed to show that Google has done anything wrong at all. Our collective problem here is that the EU itself doesn’t seem to be sure about what monopolies are and why they’re generally undesirable things.

There’s one thing we can all agree upon: in many European markets (but not all, including the Czech one that I happen to be sitting in right now) Google is the dominant search engine.

In a dramatic change of position, Joaquín Almunia, the EC’s competition commissioner, told the European parliament that unless Google altered its offer to settle complaints, it could face a “statement of objections”, the formal path towards a fine that could equate to 10% of the company’s global revenue, or about $6bn (£3.7bn).

Google controls more than 90% of the online search market in Europe, substantially more than in the US where it was cleared by the US federal trade commission in January 2013 of favouring its own searches to the detriment of consumers.

OK, that’s certainly a dominant position. And it’s always worth having a look at market players with such dominant positions. For the temptation is for those who possess such to exploit their dominance to the detriment of consumers. Perhaps by limiting production to drive up prices and thus enjoy monopoly profits. Or to crush any competition that tries to arise. But note that it’s not the near monopoly, of the dominant position itself, that is the problem. It is the attempt to exploit such situations to the detriment of the consumer that is. And we don’t actually have any evidence that Google is doing that:

The FTC said that any such favouring helped users.


That’s a bit of a difficult decision given the EU’s plans. For we’ve a number of things here: Google’s dominant position, yes, that’s there. Do they favour their own services? Maybe, maybe not: but that isn’t the issue at all. And their activities most certainly harm their competitors: that’s how they got that dominant position after all, by taking search volume from the other players. But we don’t care about that at all either. Obviously the shareholders and managements of those other players do but as a matter of public policy we’re only interested in whether the exploitation of a monopoly reduces consumer welfare. If, as the FTC concluded, Google’s activities actually aid consumers then we’re just fine with what it’s doing.

And that’s where our problem lies. The EU is proceeding on the basis that the mere existence of a dominant position must be regulated and possibly punished. Of course all of the competitors think this is just fine. But that isn’t in fact what the correct course of action is. We need proof that consumer welfare is being damaged by the exercise of that dominance before we get to that stage. That’s something we don’t have as yet, may never have, and so there’s not any justification for the EU’s current threats. We’ve also a larger problem here as well of course. If one of the world’s two major anti-trust authorities doesn’t actually understand the basics of what anti-trust oversight should be, well, yes, I think that’s a fairly significant problem.

The Problem With Google's Potential $6 Billion European Union Fine - Forbes





I think we in Europe really do need to create a European Google as well. I cant stress this enough. I dont know why we still havent discussed the possibility of creating one. i think if we really try/plan/and determined we can do it. We have all it takes to create one. However i dont think using 'monopoly' excuse to disrupt Google's operations is a good idea. Afterall, Google hasn't done anything wrong per say, it just that it does its job very good than anyone, so i dont think they should be penalised for that.What we need is just more competition, that's all.
 
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Good. I hate google now more than ever.

Ever since Google decided to make compulsory changes to it's own features, youtube and android systems.
 
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They are a spy agency .....


gmail tied to youtube tied to face book .... and yep ...goes stright to CI of a

Add yahoo and hotmail as well and twitter feeds as well

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Even them private pics

Any word your search gets tracked together with the :P IP .....oh yea ...

Its true because snowden said it

Honest Man Snowden

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Back in 2010 Google had a 29% market share in China.

Today their market share is only 1.5%.

They should have focused more on Chinese-language search instead of playing politics. As a result, they lost the largest and fastest growing population of internet users in the world.

But as a consolation prize, Google does dominate the search market in virtually the rest of the world.

The only countries where Google does not dominate the search market are China (Baidu), Russia (Yandex), South Korea (Naver) and Japan (Yahoo).
 
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I remember when Google first came about in the late 90s. There was a whole mess of web search options prior to that. You had sites like Lycos, Hotbot, Ask Jeeves, Altavista, Infoseek, and Yahoo plus a number of aggregators like Metacrawler and Dogpile that combined multiple engines into a big web browsing sandwich. Every person I knew had their favourite, but each of those engines had one thing in common: they were all utter shit. It was a regular occurrence that you would have to click through page after page of results to find anything resembling what you had originally searched for. Google was revolutionary in that regard. Suddenly, you had an engine that gave you what you wanted on the first page. You'd think that given Google's overwhelming success, other engines would follow its lead on creating a product that is actually useful, but they don't. On a whim, I tried searching for restaurants around the city I live in on both Google and Bing, since if anyone has the resources to compete, it's Billy Microsoft. The first page for Google gave me an index of reviews from local papers, restaurant guides, and a nifty list of the 38 best places in the city. Bing gave me a pile of ads. Useless. How are you supposed to break a monopoly if the competition has a product that no one wants to use?
 
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I remember when Google first came about in the late 90s. There was a whole mess of web search options prior to that. You had sites like Lycos, Hotbot, Ask Jeeves, Altavista, Infoseek, and Yahoo plus a number of aggregators like Metacrawler and Dogpile that combined multiple engines into a big web browsing sandwich. Every person I knew had their favourite, but each of those engines had one thing in common: they were all utter shit. It was a regular occurrence that you would have to click through page after page of results to find anything resembling what you had originally searched for. Google was revolutionary in that regard. Suddenly, you had an engine that gave you what you wanted on the first page. You'd think that given Google's overwhelming success, other engines would follow its lead on creating a product that is actually useful, but they don't. On a whim, I tried searching for restaurants around the city I live in on both Google and Bing, since if anyone has the resources to compete, it's Billy Microsoft. The first page for Google gave me an index of reviews from local papers, restaurant guides, and a nifty list of the 38 best places in the city. Bing gave me a pile of ads. Useless. How are you supposed to break a monopoly if the competition has a product that no one wants to use?

There are high barriers to entry now (who can match the Google algorithm?), which creates favorable conditions for a monopoly to emerge.

Which is why Google usually takes 90% market share in most countries.
 
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good news american lose money western europeans are gaining. Its always good news if the tumor gets damaged at its center
 
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good news american lose money western europeans are gaining. Its always good news if the tumor gets damaged at its center

Its more of a tit for tat thing countries play. Fining foreign banks and carbon taxing.
 
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