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Good Reads: America's decline, China's rise, the way forward

There's a new genre of American journalism called 'Decline Watch,' tracking America's slow steady decline and China's rise. Here's your daily cup of sunshine.

By Scott Baldauf, Staff Writer / January 26, 2012

Most adult Americans today grew up with their feet on the terra firma of American superiority.

Faced with a cold war rival, the Soviet Union, Americans confidently paid taxes and sent their sons off to war in Korea, Vietnam, and oddly, Grenada, in order to keep communism at bay. From Washington, President Reagan proclaimed that it was “morning in America,” which was great if you were a morning person, and Americans took the metaphor to heart. Intuitively, they knew that a free-market democracy would win against a soul-crushing authoritarian form of communism.

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But now in the early part of the 21st century, that terra firma has begun to shift underfoot. Intellectuals from developing countries have argued that democracy is not always suited for all cultures, particularly those with poor education systems. Terrorist groups have attacked America’s symbols of prosperity and strength – the Pentagon, the World Trade Center – and even America’s friends have begun to doubt that America has the mettle to carry on. The global economic crisis rounded out a very tough decade, and on the stage that America once dominated, a few new players emerged. They were familiar faces: America’s old rivals, Russia and China, who have devised hybrid models of capitalism very different from America’s that seem to function better, at least for now.

Now, it’s estimated that within the next 6 years, China may overtake America as the largest economic power in the world.

The changing global mood has created an entirely new genre of American journalism. Call it “Decline Watch.” The writers tend to be economists – the same profession that made us believe in the superiority of American capitalism, and in the logic of tearing down borders to create a unified European economy – and their arguments are persuasive, if a little self-defeating.

Consider Charles Duhigg and Keith Bradsher’s piece in the New York Times this week, called “How the US Lost Out on iPhone Work.” The reasons why Apple and every other American corporation with access to a travel agent have relocated their manufacturing to China go far beyond mere cheap wages, the authors write.

And they’re right. As the Atlantic magazine’s Jordan Weissmann notes in a blog, China has an education system that produces 600,000 engineers a year, compared with the US’s 70,000. China has an industrial policy that subsidizes the building of factories at home and the sale of products abroad.

Here’s a point in the New York Times piece that took my breath away.

Another critical advantage for Apple was that China provided engineers at a scale the United States could not match. Apple’s executives had estimated that about 8,700 industrial engineers were needed to oversee and guide the 200,000 assembly-line workers eventually involved in manufacturing iPhones. The company’s analysts had forecast it would take as long as nine months to find that many qualified engineers in the United States.


In China, it took 15 days.


China’s rise is hardly news. Starting in the late 1980s, it was seen as a positive factor, with the growing number of foreign owned factories in China helping to ease the country into a global free market. Chinese prosperity was a win-win scenario for American businesses, since it created new markets for American products and expertise.

Now the win-win scenario has turned into a zero-sum game, writes Gideon Rachman this week in Foreign Policy. In an uncertain economic climate, it is harder for two rival economic powers to prosper. Instead, the growth in China’s economy comes primarily through sucking away jobs and revenue from the US and Europe.

This, Rachman predicts, will inevitably lead to tension, and perhaps conflict.


Yet, as an alternative, China’s authoritarian father-knows-best model isn’t all that great either. Chinese leaders – all of them members of the ruling Communist Party of China – are able to make bold decisions because no dissenting views are allowed. But to dissent is human, and the growing number of protests across China, over rising prices and unsustainable wages, are an indication that Chinese leaders may not be able to take the patience of the Chinese people for granted.

For comfort, Western liberals tend to point to leading Chinese dissidents, such as Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo, who are pressing China’s leadership to loosen their grip on power. But the end-goal for Chinese dissidents isn’t necessarily a Jeffersonian democracy.

In a new book of essays, reviewed by Simon Leys of the New York Review of Books, Mr. Liu suggests that his goal may be neither American democracy nor Chinese authoritarianism, but rather a new hybrid still to be discovered.

I now realize that Western civilization, while it can be useful in reforming China in its present stage, cannot save humanity in an overall sense.

If we stand back from Western civilization for a moment, we can see that it possesses all the flaws of humanity in general….


If I, as a person who has lived under China’s autocratic system for more than thirty years, want to reflect on the fate of humanity or how to be an authentic person, I have no choice but to carry out two critiques simultaneously. I must:

1. Use Western civilization as a tool to critique China.

2. Use my own creativity to critique the West.
 
I prefer my daily dose of sunshine like this! :D

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Like president Obama said "those who say america is declining have no idea what they are talking about."
 
Like president Obama said "those who say america is declining have no idea what they are talking about."
This phrase suits best to Obama , "Barking dogs sheldom bites"..
He was known for his good speech, but unfortunately he is still only known for his good speech and nothing else..
So one more slogan from Obama, for this elections "those who say america is declining have no idea what they are talking about."..
 
China doesn't have enough oil to keep moving forwad.
 
China doesn't have enough oil to keep moving forwad.
But they have done a lot in Renewable energy resources area and oil exploration, so they have a suffiecient resources to stay...
But with the, current export oriented economy China is going nowhere..
 
But they have done a lot in Renewable energy resources area and oil exploration, so they have a suffiecient resources to stay...
But with the, current export oriented economy China is going nowhere..

China be biggest importer in the world by 2014
 
But they have done a lot in Renewable energy resources area and oil exploration, so they have a suffiecient resources to stay...
But with the, current export oriented economy China is going nowhere..

if exports dry up, first one to go down is South Korea, followed by Germany. We got plenty of others that will take our fall for us.

on the other hand, if India runs out of money, India is done.
 
here comes mighty Vietnam.:chilli:


You know, when talking seriously, the people in VN generally welcome the rise of China. It deserves as a new Super Power in the world. That´s the reality. That may suprise some countries.
But the rise of China is not new to us. Vietnam has always seen China as Super Power, even in times when it was weak. China as a giant neighbor in the north, as Middle Kingdom, has always played a dominant role for VN in the last 2000 years. We all know this and unfortunately had many painful experiences with its big brother.

Today, the only crucial question to the people of VN is, what will China do with this power: Will it behalve peaceful or try to bully again its neighbor in the south? will the history repeat? Will it respect its small brother?

That´s the only thing that matters.
 
You know, when talking seriously, the people in VN generally welcome the rise of China. It deserves as a new Super Power in the world. That´s the reality. That may suprise some countries.
But the rise of China is not new to us. Vietnam always sees China as Super Power, even in times when it was weak. China as a giant neighbor in the north, as Middle Kingdom, had always played a dominant role for VN in the last 2000 years. We all know this and unfortunately had many painful experiences with its big brother.

Today, the only crucial question to the people of VN is, what will China do with this power: Will it behalve peaceful or try to bully again its neighbor in the south? will the history repeat? Will it respect its small brother?

That´s the only thing that matters.

sometimes national pride play odds against you.

In Vietnam's case it has border or sea disputes with China and some of them even were recognized recent years more by politicians . Let's just imagine as a third party if the two has no disputes Vietnam can be one of the closest neighbor of China and will take over all industries overflow. Vietnam certainly will be the next tiger with even better per capital income than China. The integration will emerge and a super speed rail-link will just connect Hong Kong and Singapore through which Vietnam certainly benefit the most ....

but reality is hard to digest it give us all a nice clue to think of our present and future.
 
You know, when talking seriously, the people in VN generally welcome the rise of China. It deserves as a new Super Power in the world. That´s the reality. That may suprise some countries.
But the rise of China is not new to us. Vietnam always sees China as Super Power, even in times when it was weak. China as a giant neighbor in the north, as Middle Kingdom, had always played a dominant role for VN in the last 2000 years. We all know this and unfortunately had many painful experiences with its big brother.

Today, the only crucial question to the people of VN is, what will China do with this power: Will it behalve peaceful or try to bully again its neighbor in the south? will the history repeat? Will it respect its small brother?

That´s the only thing that matters.

Yes, Vietnam is like China's little brother (our culture and traditions reflect this) and nothing will change that. China in the 19th century was weak from internal corruptions and turmoil and also faced with a gang of western invaders, thus we were unable to defend Vietnam from Imperial France and our other Asian allies from the colonial invaders. As China grows stronger, Asia will once again have its indigenous guardian. And naturally, China is a peaceful country but with strong resolve so respect is always given first but should not be taken for granted.
 
Like president Obama said "those who say america is declining have no idea what they are talking about."
where do you reckon America is standing````and dont blame others to give assertion on U.S, because I can also say "those who say China is a dictatorship have no idea what they are talking about"
 

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