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Old news from 2018, but interesting:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...caught-using-genealogy-website-police-reveal/

The suspect in the notorious "Golden State Killer" case was found with the help of genealogy websites, police have revealed.

For decades the man behind a spate of murders and rapes in California in the 1970s and 1980s - dubbed the "Golden State Killer" - had evaded capture until the dramatic arrest of a suspect this week.

Joseph DeAngelo, 72, was arrested at his home and charged with eight counts of murder and could face dozens more charges after DNA evidence linked him to the crimes, authorities said.

Californian police have revealed that genealogy websites used to trace family ancestry helped narrow their search for the serial killer.

Prosecutor Steve Grippi said investigators compared the DNA they had from the crime scenes to genetic information uploaded to websites by people who were searching for relatives or ancestors.

This helped officers to focus on a few individuals, which was further narrowed down by profiling techniques. Police then watched DeAngelo, himself a former police officer, for several days for an opportunity to collect his DNA, which matched him to the crimes.

The officers declined to reveal which particular websites they used or who the matching DNA belonged to, but it is likely that a relative of DeAngelo's had been using one of the sites.

The revelation has raised privacy concerns for the millions of people who provide their DNA to ancestry websites.

According to legal experts, there are no stringent privacy laws to prevent police from searching ancestry websites' databases.

"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family," said Steve Mercer, the chief attorney for the forensic division of the Maryland Office of the Public Defender.

Mr Mercer added that they "have fewer privacy protections than convicted offenders whose DNA is contained in regulated databanks".

The Golden State Killer, also known as the "East Area Rapist" and "Original Nightstalker," is suspected of carrying out at least 12 murders and 45 rapes in California between 1976 and 1986.

The armed and masked prowler would sneak in through windows at night and surprised sleeping victims who ranged in age from 13 to 41.

When encountering a couple, he was known to tie up the man and pile dishes on his back. He threatened to kill both victims if he heard plates crash to the floor while he raped the woman. He then ransacked the house, taking souvenirs, notably coins and jewellery before fleeing on foot or bicycle.

The spree of attacks terrorised communities in Sacramento, San Francisco and other parts of California.


Despite an outpouring of thousands of tips over the years, DeAngelo's name had not been on authorities' radar before last week, said Anne Marie Schubert, the Sacramento County district attorney.

"We knew we were looking for a needle in a haystack, but we also knew that needle was there," she said. "It was right here in Sacramento."

@Path-Finder @Rusty
 
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Yep
I knew about this but my curiosity was overwhelming.
Not gonna lie, the privacy violation is terrifying
 
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Many crimes have been solved through Genealogy DNA. It’s the future of crime solving.
 
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its a good way to catch them .

i think zodiac killer already dead SOB escaped forever
 
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Yep
I knew about this but my curiosity was overwhelming.
Not gonna lie, the privacy violation is terrifying

If you don’t do a crime, you have nothing to worry about. As long as the DNA is kept in a federal database I have no problem with this new crime solving technology. It’s the criminals that should be worried, not normal citizens.
 
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If you don’t do a crime, you have nothing to worry about. As long as the DNA is kept in a federal database I have no problem with this new crime solving technology. It’s the criminals that should be worried, not normal citizens.
The Soviets used to say the same thing.
Heck the Chinese are saying that now.....I will say, being a Muslim my organs are in high demand in China.
 
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The Soviets used to say the same thing.
Heck the Chinese are saying that now.....I will say, being a Muslim my organs are in high demand in China.

But they are Communist dictatorships with no rule of law or an independent judiciary.

I fear about privacy issues too but why is DNA extra fearful?
Isn’t it similar to a fingerprint database?
Or if you have a passport the government already knows about you.
 
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Yep
I knew about this but my curiosity was overwhelming.
Not gonna lie, the privacy violation is terrifying

I think they only uses commercial DNA database such as ancestry.com. Those are when you already agree to submit your DNA sample into a public domain, because not just you can access to such information.

Now whether or not they should be able to do that would be another issue, but the lawyer side of me would think that no one should ever give up their DNA sample voluntary.

But they are Communist dictatorships with no rule of law or an independent judiciary.

I fear about privacy issues too but why is DNA extra fearful?
Isn’t it similar to a fingerprint database?
Or if you have a passport the government already knows about you.

It was studied in law school actually. If you want to know more, read this blog

https://sites.psu.edu/dhlaw/2010/05/30/dna-versus-fingerprints/

But in case you want a short answer, there were 2 reasons.

1.) The scare of misusing it. Since this is so identifiable, misusing it would be an issue
2.) Fear of manipulation of DNA, again, with such an unique identified (I think the comparison ratio is now down to a few billions to 1 chance), the fear of manipulation is quite out there.
 
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Thank you for the info, I read through it carefully.

Only thing I ask is that I don’t become a criminal InshAllah. Because you never know life is filled with uncertainties.

And if it’s not too much to ask, can you pray for me, if I am not being too selfish? Jazakallah khair :).
I daily pray for all the Muslims after Isha prayers. Problem is that, if any of your relative is involved in an act that's considered crime against US, but not a crime in Afghanistan (you understand what I mean?)... Anyway, in Shaa Allah nothing will happen..

Yep
I knew about this but my curiosity was overwhelming.
Not gonna lie, the privacy violation is terrifying
Since you have not provided your personal information, it's next to impossible for anyone to reach to to investigate about anything.

It's a fun thing, the only thing we should take care of is that we fill all wrong info about ourselves on the form, and access the form using proxy sites. The reason of my posting is not to stop people from having fun by getting their heritage info, but to think about all the necessary steps to make you anonymous.
 
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"People who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family," said Steve Mercer, the chief attorney for the forensic division of the Maryland Office of the Public Defender


LOL!!!
 
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Now whether or not they should be able to do that would be another issue, but the lawyer side of me would think that no one should ever give up their DNA sample voluntary.
You never know when you give your blood for testing in Western government hospitals, your DNA information is not obtained from it and kept for future investigations.
 
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You never know when you give your blood for testing in Western government hospitals, your DNA information is not obtained from it and kept for future investigations.
Not sure why it have to be a "Western" hospital.

But if you give blood for testing, the Police cannot use that DNA for any investigation, there are something called Medical Privacy and Doctor-Patient Confidentiality. If the Police use that DNA, the evidence will be tinted, because it would be an illegal seizure. And even if you are convicted, the conviction would be overturn because it would be a fruit from a poisonous tree.

Sadly, there aren't any Client Privacy bounded by law with commercial DNA site like Ancestry.com
 
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You never know when you give your blood for testing in Western government hospitals, your DNA information is not obtained from it and kept for future investigations.

Well at least it isn’t being used for an illicit organ harvesting database. O- so I’d be a target.
 
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