Going Back to Pakistan: 70 Years After Partition - Witness

[beijingwalker]

Going Back to Pakistan: 70 Years After Partition - Witness

 

[beijingwalker]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

In fact yeah. They wanted a separate land Hindustan for Hindu and Pakistan for Muslim. But India retained the name 'India' instead of Hindustan.

The division was based on religious grounds. But few years later, when East Pakistan won the election and Punjabi's of west Pakistan couldn't take it, they started an ethnic violence in east Pakistan which resulted in creation of Bangladesh with help from India.

So, then the division became based on linguistic and ethnicity based. Hence you can call it both based on religion and ethnicity.

 

[livingdead]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

similar people on both side of border... the further you go from border, differences become apparent.

 

[utraash]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

It was the best thing to happen for Indians than Pakistani else the whole of subcontinent would have been engulfed in religious civil war & we would have been next to Somalia, a failed state.
Thanks to Jinnah(Pbuh) who knew what could save Hindus from undergoing same cycle of violence which has ruined many states in ummah world.

Sorry we are not same ppl either by any yardstick, a geographical assimilation can't be far fetched further, we have same roots yet we are poles apart in all walks of life, especially in religious perspective which was sole reason for division.

 

[Max]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

Punjab was divided in the western part and Bengal in east, Bengali separated from Pakistan and formed their own country called Bangladesh,

Sikh Punjabi make only 2% of Bharat.

So apart from 2% bharatis, 98% are different ethnic groups with their own languages, regions and cultures.

I am surprised that you are asking such questions after spending so much time on this forum.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

That is what the Indians will tell you. That is what few in Pakistan will tell you.

Are they differant? Yes and No. Of course it';s not like on this side they have one eye and three legs and on other they have two eyes and four legs. Think of Chinese/Vietnam border. Think of Chinese/Indian border in Ladakh. On both sides you have Buddhist Tibetan peoples but that does not mean China and India are same?

Pakistan and India share one province called Punjab which is on both sides of the border. This has a line cutting through it based on religion. On both sides you have ethnic Punjabis differantiated by religion. Punjabi Muslim on Pakistan side and mostly Punjabi Sikh on Indian side. However only 2.5% of India is Punjabi. The other 97.5% is other ethnic groups which get more divergent from Pakistan further east/south you move into India from the border.

Punjabi Muslim - Make about 50% of Pakistan
Punjabi Sikh - Make about 2.5% of India.

The two Punjabs that were divided in 1947. Lahore is capital of Pakistani Punjab province. Amritsar is Sikh holy city in Indian Punjab with border inbetween.

The Punjab in Pakistan dominates the country at 50% of the population as one province with four province federation. The Indian Punjab is tiny part of India at just about 2.5% of the population. The map below contextualizes Indian Punjab [red] as one state within rest of the 29 Indian states union.

Hoewever don't let 2.5% hide the reality. Indian Punjabi Sikhs make big chunk of Indian Army and play a role in India far, far greater than their number suggests. So the Indian Punjabi Sikhs make a bigger part of the Indian ethnic mosaic at least at the public/popular perception then their numbers would suggest. I suppose a crude analogy might be Jews in America who despite being a tiny minority make big impact on the public scene.

Here below is Indian Punjab within other 29 Indian states.

I hope this answers your question. Just as a sidenote if you look at the Pakistan ethnic group map [first top] you will notice the Baloch carry over into Iran. The Pakhtuns carry over into Afghanistan. The Punjabi Muslims carry over into India as Punjabi Sikhs. Only Sindhis are restricted within Pakistan.

 

[RowdyRathore]

My grandfather came from Pakistan during partition, i still remember those stories I heard from him of their life in Pakistan.
He usually spoke in Punjabi but whenever he used to write he always uses Urdu.

Are the peoples on both sides really the same people just being divided along the religious line?

People were same before the partition but now venomed to the core.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

People

Which people? You know and I know there are dozens of ethnic groups in Asia whom the British had chained together.

 

[Trango Towers]

In fact yeah. They wanted a separate land Hindustan for Hindu and Pakistan for Muslim. But India retained the name 'India' instead of Hindustan.

The division was based on religious grounds. But few years later, when East Pakistan won the election and Punjabi's of west Pakistan couldn't take it, they started an ethnic violence in east Pakistan which resulted in creation of Bangladesh with help from India.

So, then the division became based on linguistic and ethnicity based. Hence you can call it both based on religion and ethnicity.

You were doing so well and they your prejudice...anti Punjabi nonsense in 2nd paragraph came out.
Actually Bhutto was a sindhi. Not a Punjabi

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It was the best thing to happen for Indians than Pakistani

Well thank Lord Shiva and take dip in Ganga that you have learn't this lesson 70 years later. We said so in 1947. And we were right. Undoing the chains that tied us to Ganga by the Britis was the best thing we did.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Well thank Lord Shiva and take dip in Ganga that you have learn't this lesson 70 years later. We said so in 1947. And we were right. Undoing the chains that tied us to Ganga by the Britis was the best thing we did.

Gangadeshis has turned Ganga into a sewage and sewerage nullah. Taking the dump and taking the dip at the same place and at same river.

Talking about the use and utility of a river....

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

A very touching video. Unfortunately rather than love, its all animosity and hate for each other now.

 

[Chhatrapati]

You were doing so well and they your prejudice...anti Punjabi nonsense in 2nd paragraph came out.
Actually Bhutto was a sindhi. Not a Punjabi

At the time Pakistan's military and civil services were dominated by the Punjabi's. Only one regiment in the Pakistani Army was Bengali.

 

[utraash]

Well thank Lord Shiva and take dip in Ganga that you have learn't this lesson 70 years later. We said so in 1947. And we were right. Undoing the chains that tied us to Ganga by the Britis was the best thing we did.

Before getting blessings from Lord shiva we all really owe a pious bending west side(which many Indians do unknowingly on Friday) to pay our gratitude to almighty god, a real saviour of Ganga dwellers that it infused some sense into Jinnah Saab to come out delusion of khoongressi sham of secularism.


Bdesi is also a pious dwellers of gangnatic plain & real victim of being fooled for Ummah.