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Global city rankings at GaWC 2018
2018-11-22 06:45

This year, China has six cities ranked among the world's 55 first-tier cities, according to the Globalization and World Cities Study Group and Network, or GaWC.

The leading global rating agency grades cities on four levels, including Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Sufficiency. Each level has two or four ratings indicated as +/-, based on indicators that business and professional services, including banking, insurance, accounting, law, advertising and management consulting, say are essential to support economic development.

In addition, the city's GDP and output value from manufacturing are not contained in the rating indicators.

World Top Ten.
1. London
2. New York
3. Hong Kong
4. Beijing
5. Singapore
6. Shanghai
7. Sydney
8. Paris
9. Dubai
10. Tokyo

Full List: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2018t.html
 
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London and New York are being overrated, their infrastructures are pretty dilapidated.
 
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Meh, I don't believe Tokyo is ranked below Dubai when it has an economy as large as India.

London and New York are being overrated, their infrastructures are pretty dilapidated.

You guys need to stop thinking infrastructure is everything and is some chest-beating achievement, otherwise Arab cities would've long dominated the list with their shiny airports, cloud-popping skyscrapers, and air-conditioned bus stops.

What's more important are the intangibles such as soft infrastructure (rule-of-law, law and regulation, education system etc) and the entire ecosystem (ability attract talent and enterprise from all over the world).

Building physical infrastructure is easy in comparison, you just need to have the political will and the capital, and the engineers can do the job. Singapore is able to build a world-class infrastructure even though we don't have natural resources for funding at the start, but we know we are way behind cities like NYC or SF in areas such as the ecosystem to attract global talent.


 
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Meh, I don't believe Tokyo is ranked below Dubai when it has an economy as large as India.



You guys need to stop thinking infrastructure is everything and is some chest-beating achievement, otherwise Arab cities would've long dominated the list with their shiny airports, cloud-popping skyscrapers, and air-conditioned bus stops.

What's more important are the intangibles such as soft infrastructure (rule-of-law, law and regulation, education system etc) and the entire ecosystem (ability attract talent and enterprise from all over the world).

Building physical infrastructure is easy in comparison, you just need to have the political will and the capital, and the engineers can do the job. Singapore is able to build a world-class infrastructure even though we don't have natural resources for funding at the start, but we know we are way behind cities like NYC or SF in areas such as the ecosystem to attract global talent.



You have to have infrastructure first and then have everything, US did the infrastructure boom first as well before becoming dominant in every sector, that's no exception in every country's development, please don't compare Singapore with China, Singapore is basically a mini town by Chinese standard, Beijing alone is 23 times as big as Singapore.
 
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You have to have infrastructure first and then have everything, US did the infrastructure boom first as well before becoming dominant in every sector, that's no exception in every country's development, please don't compare Singapore with China, Singapore is basically a mini town by Chinese standard, Beijing alone is 23 times as big as Singapore.

Yes yes China is big but no, I'm not comparing Singapore to China. I just find it funny that you think NYC/London are 'overrated' because their infrastructure is 'dilapidated' and you Chinese are going everywhere on the internet boasting about how much cement you have poured, as if infrastructure is everything. If so, Arab cities should dominate this list with their new shiny infrastructure. How about comparing the intangibles? What's Beijing's median household income compared to NYC/London? Average education level? GDP compared to Tokyo? GDP per capita? Quality of life? These are far more important indicators than how many bridges or metro lines you have.
 
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Yes yes China is big but no, I'm not comparing Singapore to China. I just find it funny that you think NYC/London are 'overrated' because their infrastructure is 'dilapidated' and you Chinese are going everywhere on the internet boasting about how much cement you have poured, as if infrastructure is everything. If so, Arab cities should dominate this list with their new shiny infrastructure. How about comparing the intangibles? What's Beijing's median household income compared to NYC/London? Average education level? GDP compared to Tokyo? GDP per capita? Quality of life? These are far more important indicators than how many bridges or metro lines you have.
No Arab cities are anywhere close to the Chinese cities scales, they are not even the scale of a city district in China, most Chinese cities are mega cities with tens of million residents, as for GDP per capita wise, Chinese Macau can beat every city on the planet. Infrastructure is not everything but one of the most important factors to consider. Quality of life in New York sucks actually, but anyway people have their different priorities but at New York should not let rats taking over the city, its infrastructure is really rundown. but still it's a western organization which made this list so its natural for them to prefer their own cities.
 
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Quality of life in New York sucks actually

So why do so many global talent still flock to NYC? How does Beijing's average income compare to NYC?

it's a western organization which made this list so its natural for them to prefer their own cities.

Beijing:
GDP(nominal) 2017
- Total ¥2.80 trillion ($414.71 billion)
- Per capita ¥128,927 ($19,895)

New York City:
GDP $1.718 trillion (2017)
GDP per capita $84,547 (2017)

Beijing's GDP is less than a quarter of NYC, and their GDP per capita is above $80K. They have an economy larger than Russia and South Korea, and yet here you are thinking they are overrated because of rats in the metro lmao. Come on, your bias is showing and clouding your judgement.
 
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3 cities from China in the top 3. Yup, China is truly the center of the world now.
 
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Beijing:


New York City:


Beijing's GDP is less than a quarter of NYC, and their GDP per capita is above $80K. They have an economy larger than Russia and South Korea, and yet here you are thinking they are overrated because of rats in the metro lmao. Come on, your bias is showing and clouding your judgement.
If per capita GDP is the only way to gauge, Chinese Macau will be the number one in the world.
 
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Beijing's GDP is less than a quarter of NYC, and their GDP per capita is above $80K. They have an economy larger than Russia and South Korea, and yet here you are thinking they are overrated because of rats in the metro lmao. Come on, your bias is showing and clouding your judgement.

I have a nagging suspicion that you are another false flagger like that impostor Nihonjin. Plz dont tell me you are a new citizen.

Don't link development or influence to a single metric like GDP per capita. And no, New York City does not enjoy a GDP per capita of over $80K.

In 2017, New York current-dollar GDP was $1,606,601.3 million

That is according to the BEA for the State of New York. That figure includes a good chunk of imputations and hedonic adjustments. For the United States, imputations alone amounted to nearly $3 trillion in 2016! That's more than the reported GDP of France or the UK. Add hedonic adjustments to that figure and you understand why the actual GDP of the US would appear to be much lower than "official" figures show.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A2023C1A027NBEA
Gross domestic product: Imputations (A2023C1A027NBEA)

Observation:

2016: 2,920.559
Updated: Aug 8, 2018
Units:

Billions of Dollars,
Not Seasonally Adjusted

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A2026C1A027NBEA

Gross domestic product: Excluding imputations (A2026C1A027NBEA)

Observation:

2016: 15,786.630
Updated: Aug 8, 2018
Units:

Billions of Dollars,
Not Seasonally Adjusted


Without imputations, the GDP of the United States would amount to "only" around $16 trillion. Without hedonic adjustments, which are usually worth more than imputations in the case of the United States, their GDP would amount to "only" $12 to $13 trillion.

For a population of ~320 million, that would provide their people with a GDP per capita of ~$40,000.

Applying a similar percentage of imputation and hedonic adjustments to the case of the State of New York would produce a GDP of around $1 trillion. Still a very respectable $50,000 GDP per capita for the State of New York but considerably lower than what you assumed it would be for the city.


If per capita GDP is the only way to gauge, Chinese Macau will be the number one in the world.

No, it would not be so.

First of all, the state of Qatar, Liechtenstein and maybe a few other tiny states such as Monaco lead Macau in that indicator.

Second of all, those are countries compared to Macau, an SAR. Think of it - a SAR within a massive country like China is still poorer than many sovereign countries.

These city rankings are as reliable or valuable as Global Firepower rankings.

P.S. If anybody wondered what I meant, there is no importance to be attached to such rankings.
 
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If per capita GDP is the only way to gauge, Chinese Macau will be the number one in the world.

Aren't you the one which used infrastructure as the 'only' way to determine NYC is overrated?

I have a nagging suspicion that you are another false flagger like that impostor Nihonjin. Plz dont tell me you are a new citizen.

Your profile pic IIRC is the next gen combat system, and I was taught how to operate the ACMS Lite during NS.


Don't link development or influence to a single metric like GDP per capita.

Read again. I cited other metrics, and GDP is just one of them. He was the one using a single metric.

that is according to the BEA for the State of New York.

I got the source here:

https://www.bea.gov/system/files/2018-09/gdp_metro0918_0.pdf
Page 10.

Current-Dollar Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by Metropolitan Area
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA

Obviously I'm using metropolitan area with similar population scale to compare.
 
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Your profile pic IIRC is the next gen combat system, and I was taught how to operate the ACMS Lite during NS.




Read again. I cited other metrics, and GDP is just one of them. He was the one using a single metric.



I got the source here:

https://www.bea.gov/system/files/2018-09/gdp_metro0918_0.pdf
Page 10.



Obviously I'm using metropolitan area with similar population scale to compare.

You are a new citizen, then?

I was talking about imputations, hedonic adjustments and their contributions to US economy.
 
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You are a new citizen, then?

A new citizen can be sent to that sensitive vocation in charge of C4I when even a certain minority who is born and bred here can't? Don't you know a lot about the SAF? :lol:

I was talking about imputations, hedonic adjustments and their contributions to US economy.

Whatever you say. I'm just citing the figure from official sources straight from the US government to make my point on NYC and Beijing.
 
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A new citizen can be sent to that sensitive vocation in charge of C4I when even a certain minority who is born and bred here can't? Don't you know a lot about the SAF? :lol:



Whatever you say. I'm just citing the figure from official sources straight from the US government to make my point on NYC and Beijing.


My sources were from the US government, too. Did you read up on imputation? Consider doing so if you haven't.
 
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My sources were from the US government, too. Did you read up on imputation? Consider doing so if you haven't.

Yes I did before, many years ago when people were still arguing about the US recovery under the Obama administration.

There's nothing wrong with it. Did you study economics before, or do you just read up on the internet? That's just how GDP is calculated and defined. They should be recorded irrespective of what is the relationship between a consumer and a producer. Whether you stay in your house or you rent it out it should generate the same economic value.

https://www.bea.gov/help/faq/488

Why does GDP include imputations?


Gross domestic product (GDP) is a comprehensive measure of the nation’s production. In order to be comprehensive, it must include some goods and services that are not traded in the market place. Those components of the GDP are called imputations. Examples include the services of owner-occupied housing, financial services provided without charge, and the treatment of employer-provided health insurance.

Imputations approximate the price and quantity that would be obtained for a good or service if it was traded in the market place. The largest imputation in the GDP accounts is that made to approximate the value of the services provided by owner-occupied housing. That imputation is made so that the treatment of owner-occupied housing in the GDP is comparable to that of tenant-occupied housing, which is valued by rent paid. That practice keeps GDP invariant as to whether a house is owner-occupied or rented. In the GDP, the purchase of a new house is treated as an investment; the ownership of the home is treated as a productive activity; and a service is assumed to flow from the house to the occupant over the economic life of the house. For the homeowner, the value of that service is measured as the income the homeowner could have received if the house had been rented to a tenant.

Another important imputation measures financial services provided by banks and other financial institutions either without charge or for a small fee that does not reflect the entire value of the service. Examples are checking-account maintenance and services provided to borrowers. For the depositor, this “imputed interest” is measured as the difference between the interest paid by the bank and the interest that the depositor could have earned by investing in “safe” government securities. For the borrower, it is measured as the difference between the interest charged by the bank and the interest the bank could have earned by investing in those government securities.

In addition to imputations for nonmarket transactions, the GDP accounts redirect certain transactions so that the consumption is attributed to the ultimate recipient of the good or service rather than to the payer. An important example is health care, which is generally paid for by private health insurance (often provided by the employer), by government insurance plans such as Medicare and Medicaid, or by consumer out-of-pocket payments for deductibles, copayments, and uninsured expenses. In the GDP, these health-care transactions are redirected so that they are included in personal consumption expenditures, reflecting the role of households as the final consumers of those health goods and services.

Since the mid-1990s, the shares of GDP accounted for by some imputations have increased as the activities measured have grown faster than other activities.

  • From 1996 to 2006, the share of GDP accounted for by the imputation for owner-occupied housing increased from 6.0 percent to 6.2 percent.
  • From 1996 to 2006, the share of employer contributions for private health and life insurance grew from 3.2 percent of GDP to 4.2 percent of GDP.
  • From 1996 to 2006, the share of all imputations in GDP grew from 13.8 percent to 14.8 percent.
  • In 2006, imputed financial services represented 1.7 percent of GDP, the same as in 1996.
Without imputations, the GDP story is incomplete and can be misleading. For example, from 1998 to 2006, personal consumption expenditures for medical-care services, which are largely funded by government or employer-provided health insurance, grew from 10.5 percent to 12.0 percent of GDP, while the share of people engaged in production in the private health care and social assistance industry (that is, full-time equivalent employment plus the number of self-employed) grew from 9.4 percent to 10.8 percent of total employment. If there had been no imputations or redirections showing the growth coming from government and employment-provided health insurance, the growth in GDP for health services would not have been correctly aligned with the growth in employment.

But that's another topic irrelevant to this thread.
 
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