Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

[ziaulislam]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

 

[Zarvan]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

I just love Indians and their campaign of BS

 

[jupiter2007]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

Indian Source, Let’s wait for few more sources to confirm the news.

 

[ziaulislam]

I just love Indians and their campaign of BS

I doubt its BS
germans and french have very important economic relationship with india

England is abit on the fence but it will move soon into that group

Italians will probably stay neutral given most of their frims are blacklisted
Lets see what alternative can we get..
We underestimate the extent of lobbying india does
India spends more on lobbying then we spend on our defense

Look at the disinfo lab for example

All these anti pakistan journalist do so for a reason

They have spent millions in bribes, lobbying, disinformation and terrorism for single purpose

 

[Jinn Baba]

I hadn't realised that these Chinese subs used non-Chinese engines, but a quick Google search shows that indeed they do use a German engine.

Damn! This could well be true.

 

[KurtisBrian]

If China was buying German engines it was probably just to give German factories and workers something to do. Silly for the Chinese to keep propping up others. Better to let Germany, the UK, France, Spain... fail and descend into chaos. That way they can be easily over run and conquered. Other men will be happy to take that land and those women. It is nothing new. History repeats...most of the men in Europe are descended from men who invaded from Central Asia to take.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

Source is indian by an indian author hence it is FAKE NEWS:

265 Indian fake news sites caught pushing anti-Pakistan propaganda

Researchers have discovered a network of 265 fake local news sites across 65 countries that are being used to disseminate anti-Pakistan coverage and serve Indian governmental interests.

thenextweb.com

Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe' - BBC News

Fake sites and groups lobbying for India influenced decision makers in Europe, researchers say.

www.google.co.uk

Also, there is no cross referencing and source authentication which means it's another product from the indian disinfo lab.

 

[Mighty Lion]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

Probably true. After all Germany stopped delivery of Meteor missile to Saudi Arabia (an western ally). So them stopping supply of engines to China manufactured submarines is not at all far fetched.

Germany forces European company to stop supplying Saudi Arabia with ‘Meteor’ missiles – Middle East Monitor

www.middleeastmonitor.com

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Are there any non-indian sources, preferably German sources that confirm that the Germans are reluctant to sell their Engines for Chinese subs bound for Pakistan?

 

[xyxmt]

I doubt its BS
germans and french have very important economic relationship with india

England is abit on the fence but it will move soon into that group

Italians will probably stay neutral given most of their frims are blacklisted
Lets see what alternative can we get..
We underestimate the extent of lobbying india does
India spends more on lobbying then we spend on our defense

Look at the disinfo lab for example

All these anti pakistan journalist do so for a reason

They have spent millions in bribes, lobbying, disinformation and terrorism for single purpose

their economic relationship with India is bigger than Chinese??

 

[ziaulislam]

their economic relationship with India is bigger than Chinese??

Its not about china its about pakistan

And yes..

China is exporter..india is consumer

Germany doesnt see china as market but as a competitior

Probably true. After all Germany stopped delivery of Meteor missile to Saudi Arabia (an western ally). So them stopping supply of engines to China manufactured submarines is not at all far fetched.

Germany forces European company to stop supplying Saudi Arabia with ‘Meteor’ missiles – Middle East Monitor

www.middleeastmonitor.com

Germany parliament also rejected a govt proposal of selling subs(though pakistan had already walked away from the project )

India is pressurizing countries that cant do buisness both ways
I think we need to understand that if some day china and india interest align we will be in trouble

After all in early 1950s that was the case...we were hearing hindi chinee bhai bhai and we were in CENTO

So bottom line..diversify and indeginize your equipment ..look at turkey..not so big economy but still came a far way in indigenization

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I doubt its BS
germans and french have very important economic relationship with india

England is abit on the fence but it will move soon into that group

Italians will probably stay neutral given most of their frims are blacklisted
Lets see what alternative can we get..
We undere5stimate the extent of lobbying india does
India spends more on lobbying then we spend on our defense

Look at the disinfo lab for example

All these anti pakistan journalist do so for a reason

They have spent millions in bribes, lobbying, disinformation and terrorism for single purpose

main reason is west vs china or specifically. America vs china. Americans blocked 5g deals and pressured UK to pull out not for love of Indian curry but opposition to china.
western Europe complies to avoid blackmailing and blacklisting by American businesses and American state.
Chinese are feared and seen as rivals stealing technology hence the denial to modern technology and research.

 

[Mav3rick]

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

Just like when Russia was 'about' to withhold engines meant for Thunders? How can Germany say 'NO' to the 2nd biggest market and 2nd most powerful economy in the world?

 

[waz]

England is abit on the fence but it will move soon into that group

No it won't for a myriad of reasons. They are neutral.

Germany blocking engines for chinese subs

Germany's reluctance to supply engines casts shadow on China's desire to make submarines for Pakistan

The first two submarines are to be commissioned in April and October next year. Two more are planned for 2023, in January and December respectively, after which there are to be four, one each from 2025 to 2028.

www.timesnownews.com

If correct then that's terrible news.
Pakistan would simply have to buy from Germany direct, and bring back the old 214 deal. It was abandoned years back due to funding.

 

[Black.Mamba]

There is no such news available on the Internet in Deutsche. My prior experience if no news is available in Deutsche then it is fake news unless the defence ministry told Indians in the ears and actual news will be released next month, that is an entirely different case.

As for the US pressure on Germany, recently on numerous occasions they stood with China and Russia (Nord stream 2 prime example). Things were bad during the Trump era and might improve a little during Biden but I seriously doubt Germany will just go and sit in US camp cutting of ties with China, very unlikely.

Does anyone know the name of the German manufacturer?