Germans 'will be poorer' because of the war in Ukraine

[mmr]

Last year China's economy overtook the whole EU, with this war , we are going to leave EU further behind.

China population is way bigger and its expected.

EU and USA still close to 40 trillion dollar economy. They will be just fine.

But this talk of EU suffering from inflation is half truth. Entire world is suffering. There are rampant inflation in most developing countries and looming food shortages in many parts of the world.

 

[beijingwalker]

China population is way bigger and its expected.

EU and USA still close to 40 trillion dollar economy. They will be just fine.

But this talk of EU suffering from inflation is half truth. Entire world is suffering. There are rampant inflation in most developing countries and looming food shortages in many parts of the world.

New emerging means hasn't reached full potential, this is why EU is suffering a slow death, meaning a steady decline in the globlal economy and significance.

 

[Ich]

Usa want china to support russia. That will make sure all the EU countries work with USA going forward on every issue. And all this bla bla about europe suffering...well Europe went through two world wars and rebuild very fast. what made ppl think paying few cents more on gas will make Europeans crying for bread.

Well, from November 2020 to now the gas price for a MWh gas rises up to 500%. Most people in Germany have to pay 100+% in 2022 as they payed in 2021 - what makes over thousand Euros more cost per household. So you can stick your "few cents" at the place where the sun never shine.

„Fühle mich von diesen Politikern veräppelt“: Gaspreise steigen teils um 500 Prozent

Putin drosselt die Gas-Lieferungen nach Europa. Die deutschen Gasspeicher leeren sich. Das hat spürbare Folgen – auch für deutsche Verbraucher. FOCUS-Online-User berichten über teils horrende Preiserhöhungen ihrer Versorger und fordern Maßnahmen der Bundesregierung.

www.focus.de

 

[Ich]

You can always move to russia lol

And go f*** ur self

Zero sympathy for coomie a**holes

Well, then shut up and do not talk about things you do not have any clue. Cause these world highest gas prices will be trippled and more if gas is bought from US and not Russia.

 

[mmr]

Well, then shut up and do not talk about things you do not have any clue. Cause these world highest gas prices will be trippled and more if gas is bought from US and not Russia.

Why you didnt invest in green energy then? if you guys want to be truly energy independent keep investing more on green energy.

In Canada we are also paying lot for utilities. And there is no war here.

Inflation in Canada is 6 percent

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-inflation-february-1.6386536

We all are suffering. Stop acting like you are the only victim.

and sorry for bad mouthing you.

 

[Apollon]

We only see EU is suffering a slow death now and it's only just started.

Big words coming from a country with no military history.

Last year China's economy overtook the whole EU, with this war , we are going to leave EU further behind. China is one of these newly emerging economies.

Maybe its time for CRISPR CAS on O-M122.

New emerging means hasn't reached full potential, this is why EU is suffering a slow death, meaning a steady decline in the globlal economy and significance.

Death means zero. Last time i checked we are one of absolute top players on the planet.

 

[beijingwalker]

Big words coming from a country with no military history.

Do you know how long China's history is, hint, much longer than US. lol . besides, I m not talking about military, I m talking about the economy.

 

[Apollon]

Well, then shut up and do not talk about things you do not have any clue. Cause these world highest gas prices will be trippled and more if gas is bought from US and not Russia.

Then move to Russia. What holds you here?

Poor people realy start to annoy me. Uhhhhh gas now costs 30 cent more. Do you know how pathetic that sounds? You give the name "Jammer Ossi" a whole new level

Do you know how long China's history is, hint, much longer than US. lol . besides, I m not talking about military, I m talking about the economy.

Our economy is still growing. 2% per year. We are already on the top. Where else should we grow? You have three tines the population, yet only little more than our economy. You still have to get three times bigger economy to reach our standard.

And yes i know your history. Big inside China, weak outside. Mongols beat you. Japan beat you. Almost evryone in Europe beat you. Nothing to be proud for.

 

[beijingwalker]

Our economy is still growing. 2% per year. We are already on the top. Where else should we grow? You have three tines the population, yet only little more than our economy. You still have to get three times bigger economy to reach our standard.

And yes i know your history. Big inside China, weak outside. Mongols beat you. Japan beat you. Almost evryone in Europe beat you. Nothing to be proud for.

Lol, who are "we" , you are Greek, you should remember. Never seen another guy so delusional as you to the point of forgetting their own country of origin.
As for the past history, countries rise and fall, no one always stays on the top, it's a common sense,don't know why you fail to see.

 

[Apollon]

Lol, who are "we" , you are Greek, you should remember. Never seen another guy so delusional as you to the point of forgetting their own country of origin.
As for the past history, countries rise and fall, no one always stays on the top, it's a common sense,don't know why you fail to see.

Im half greek, half german. My father is German. I think Germany even had a colony in China?

But as you call out Greece. Greece has ancient history and very nice living standards. Very developed place. Sure its not a mayor power in the world but perfect to live at. And as EU member state profits enormous from european economic power.

 

[beijingwalker]

Im half greek, half german. My father is German. I think Germany even had a colony in China?

But as you call out Greece. Greece has ancient history and very nice living standards. Very developed place. Sure its not a mayor power in the world but perfect to live at. And as EU member state profits enormous from european economic power.

Half or half or full dosen't matter, all together you are just a minor role in a side show anyway. China today calls EU to pursue "independent foreign policy" , in other words, stop being an US bitch.

 

[Ich]

Why you didnt invest in green energy then? In Canada we are also paying lot for utilities. And there is no war here.

Inflation in Canada is 6 percent

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-inflation-february-1.6386536

We all are suffering. Stop acting like you are the only victim.

and sorry for bad mouthing you.

Sorry accepted.

Well, green energy. It is not possible to produce enough energy in Germany with windmills/solarmodules/watercraft/biogas alone. Germany is to small and also has a high population density. So you cant build endless windmills or solarmodule plants ect. while at same time closing all other plants (nuclear, coal, gas). Some say Germany could build solarplants in Afrika or Australia ect. But this is the same bullshit as it is now with russian gas - dependency make you weak and blackmailable.

The only way for Germany to become independend in energy is a combination of hydrogen economy, hydrogen industry, hydrogen mobility, hydrogen housholds and nuclear powerplants and producing hydrogen not only centralized, but also decentralized in the households to even let get the smallest entities energy independend. But this is not wanted since 1998.

 

[Apollon]

Half or half or full dosen't matter, all together you are just a minor role in a side show anyway. China today calls EU to pursue "independent foreign policy" , in other words, stop being an US bitch.

You mean we should build up own nuclear defense forces against russian threat? So far we have around 400 french nukes as European deterence.

Btw defending Ukraine is EU policy. Ukraine in russian occupation is not our interest. Last time i checked china is against this too

Sorry accepted.

Well, green energy. It is not possible to produce enough energy in Germany with windmills/solarmodules/watercraft/biogas alone. Germany is to small and also has a high population density. So you cant build endless windmills or solarmodule plants ect. while at same time closing all other plants (nuclear, coal, gas). Some say Germany could build solarplants in Afrika or Australia ect. But this is the same bullshit as it is now with russian gas - dependency make you weak and blackmailable.

The only way for Germany to become independend in energy is a combination of hydrogen economy, hydrogen industry, hydrogen mobility, hydrogen housholds and nuclear powerplants and producing hydrogen not only centralized, but also decentralized in the households to even let get the smallest entities energy independend. But this is not wanted since 1998.

The front against it falls. Im sure nuclear will not phase out. Gernany already threw alot old dogma out of the window in last few weeks

 

[El Sidd]

Bist du sicher?

Ganz sicher.

Momentan ist Inflation circa 7.7 Prozent. Als der Krieg geht weiter, 2 3 Prozent Umstieg ist mehr als möglich.

 

[mmr]

Sorry accepted.

Well, green energy. It is not possible to produce enough energy in Germany with windmills/solarmodules/watercraft/biogas alone. Germany is to small and also has a high population density. So you cant build endless windmills or solarmodule plants ect. while at same time closing all other plants (nuclear, coal, gas). Some say Germany could build solarplants in Afrika or Australia ect. But this is the same bullshit as it is now with russian gas - dependency make you weak and blackmailable.

The only way for Germany to become independend in energy is a combination of hydrogen economy, hydrogen industry, hydrogen mobility, hydrogen housholds and nuclear powerplants and producing hydrogen not only centralized, but also decentralized in the households to even let get the smallest entities energy independend. But this is not wanted since 1998.

Then how you will reach net carbon zero? is it all BS then....that is depressing.