German terror raids

[IceCold]

Federal prosecutors said the three were suspected members of "an Islamist terrorist organisation", but gave no further details.

Media reports said the men were planning attacks against a US military base in Ramstein and Frankfurt airport.

Defence minister Franz Josef Jung confirmed the arrests and said the men had posed "an imminent threat".

"The security services have done a very good job and I can't say anything more at this point," Mr Jung told German television.

'Major targets'

Reports said that two of the suspects were German while the third was Pakistani.

Government sources told the AFP news agency that the three had links to Pakistan and had been experimenting with explosives and trying to build car bombs.

Prosecutors said the arrests took place on Tuesday afternoon.

Frankfurt airport is continental Europe's busiest, and the base at Ramstein in western Germany is a major transport hub for US military operations.

Germany, which did not send troops to Iraq, has been largely spared terrorist attacks, but there have been growing concerns that Islamist militants are operating in the country.

Last summer, two suitcase bombs were planted on commuter trains in several towns but they failed to explode.

On Monday, two people with suspected links to al-Qaeda were arrested in Denmark on suspicion of planning a bomb attack.

 

[IceCold]

Why the **** does every terror connection turns out to be having a link from pakistan? Are we pakistanies so stupid that we are unable to understand what is and what is not good for our country or are we facing some kind of global conspiracy. In anycase its a very troubling news because the image of pakistan and its people who are not in anykind of **** like this, they are the ones that gets suffered specially the ones abroad.

 

[Skywalker]

Having Pakistani passport does not necessarily means that he would be a Pakistani as during the regime of Mr. Zia ulhaq there were quite a few afghanis, iraqis, iranis, bengladeshis managed to get the Pakistani passport and yes we know that you can only be recognised through your passport and unfiortunatly its the same here.

Afghanistan is the root of all problems , they never accepted us as a brotherly muslim country infact they made best of their efforts to sabotage pakistan alongwith our well know enemy ******* India.

Lastly this can also be linked with German Uboats signing, as why this was happened now. We need to look into larger picture.

 

[Bull]

'Federal prosecutor Monika Harms said the three had trained at camps in Pakistan and procured some 700kg (1,500lbs) of chemicals for explosives.' - BBC News

Shame Pakistan and Pakistanis. Time and again it has been Pakistanis and Pakistan that has been at the centre of such global terror plans, even after so many instances still the 'evil Indians' and Kashmir remains their priority.

How many more such jolts (if its consoidered as one) is required for you guys to open your eyes and see the truth. .

And when India says so you demand proof!!!

 

[su-47]

Its Pakistans image thats being tarnished as more and more terrorists say they receive training in pak.

What the Pak govt can do is to step up military action against terrorists holed up in the Pak-afghan border, and finsih off the training camps.

Otherwise Pak will soon be added to the list of countries USA will invade

 

[GreenMan]

What Pakistan needs to do is first send Hidustani Musarraf back to Delhi then finish off India. Kill two p i g s with one blow ahahah

So long as India is there they will continue to malign Pakistan one every front. Just look at these charecters above first to show their ugly faces.

Specially any forum where Westeners come these Indians are specially active in maligning Pakistan.

I have coined a new term for such charecters , it called 'Basement Bhangee' , a basment Bhangee is an indian who sits in a dim litted basement of his parents and writes trash about Pakistan on the internet. Hence forht all these indians on this forum are 'Basement bhangees'

India is enemy number one , show no mercy to the enemies of Pakistan !
( starting with Hindutani Delhi ka k u t t a Mush ). Once india is finished off turst me all this nonsense about 'all terrotist come from Pakistan' will finsih off too

 

[blain2]

'Federal prosecutor Monika Harms said the three had trained at camps in Pakistan and procured some 700kg (1,500lbs) of chemicals for explosives.' - BBC News

Shame Pakistan and Pakistanis. Time and again it has been Pakistanis and Pakistan that has been at the centre of such global terror plans, even after so many instances still the 'evil Indians' and Kashmir remains their priority.

How many more such jolts (if its consoidered as one) is required for you guys to open your eyes and see the truth. .

And when India says so you demand proof!!!

Bull please get your judgemental finger out of your ***. Why should Pakistan or Pakistanis be ashamed of anything?? If there is anything to be ashamed of is to see chaps like you and others judging Pakistan. We, more than anyone else, helped the cause of the Afghan freedom. What were you guys doing back then?? Twiddling your thumbs...and here you expect us to be ashamed?

The fact that the west and you guys use the issue of terrorism to nail Pakistan is just a ploy...who the hell let these people come to Pakistan and train??? It was all of the western countries who supported the same people by encouraging them to take military training in Pakistan and Afghanistan during all of these past years....it just happened so that 9/11 came along in the middle abnd suddenly all of their arses were on fire (oh ****! What have we been doing supporting these people all these years" ).

For Pakistanis, there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of...I could care less if People think Pakistan is the center of this or that...its simply an opinion and an excuse to bring bad PR on Pakistan. Why were folks like these idiots not probed when they returned from Pakistan or when they were going to Pakistan? At one time, they were the heroes of the west...so maybe those with short memories forget things and blame Pakistan for it, I say Pakistan should stay proud of what it did...individuals are the concern of other countries, not Pakistan. Do a better job of policing your citizens or more importantly, look at the causes of injustice and polarisation in the world. That would answer why some guy in Germany wants to travel all the way to Pakistan or Afghanistan to take part in a struggle that is so distant from him.

 

[ARSENAL6]

H
Lastly this can also be linked with German Uboats signing, as why this was happened now. We need to look into larger picture.

This is true actually when ever Pakistan signs a milatry deal there always a terroist scare

Like what happen with the siging of French submarine Agostas

 

[IceCold]

Its Pakistans image thats being tarnished as more and more terrorists say they receive training in pak.

What the Pak govt can do is to step up military action against terrorists holed up in the Pak-afghan border, and finsih off the training camps.

And also tell us about what should we do about the terrorist coming to pakistan via afghanistan thanks to the courtesy shown by our pal india here.

Otherwise Pak will soon be added to the list of countries USA will invade

Wishful thinking! if evading pakistan was so simple you guys would have done it along ago. Same stands for US.

 

[IceCold]

'Federal prosecutor Monika Harms said the three had trained at camps in Pakistan and procured some 700kg (1,500lbs) of chemicals for explosives.' - BBC News

Shame Pakistan and Pakistanis. Time and again it has been Pakistanis and Pakistan that has been at the centre of such global terror plans, even after so many instances still the 'evil Indians' and Kashmir remains their priority.

How many more such jolts (if its consoidered as one) is required for you guys to open your eyes and see the truth. .

And when India says so you demand proof!!!

Before judging others, i would suggest you that kindly follow the advice given to you by Mr blain he mentioned in his first line.

 

[Bull]

Bull please get your judgemental finger out of your ***. Why should Pakistan or Pakistanis be ashamed of anything?? If there is anything to be ashamed of is to see chaps like you and others judging Pakistan. We, more than anyone else, helped the cause of the Afghan freedom. What were you guys doing back then?? Twiddling your thumbs...and here you expect us to be ashamed? .

Afghani freedom...lol...like Bush's Iraqi feedom.

The fact that the west and you guys use the issue of terrorism to nail Pakistan is just a ploy...who the hell let these people come to Pakistan and train??? It was all of the western countries who supported the same people by encouraging them to take military training in Pakistan and Afghanistan during all of these past years....it just happened so that 9/11 came along in the middle abnd suddenly all of their arses were on fire (oh ****! What have we been doing supporting these people all these years" ).

So you blame west for promoting training camps inside your land. What was you and your ovt doing then? Didn't you realise the folly of being a satellite state for US?

For Pakistanis, there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of....

Thats the whole thing mate, thats what im saying. Even such vast evidences of your citizens being involved and your land being used for bombing foreign countries doesnt make you ashamed. Whats there to discuss now?

I could care less if People think Pakistan is the center of this or that...its simply an opinion and an excuse to bring bad PR on Pakistan.

PR...you call this PR!!! God save you. These same guys are killing your own soldiers is that also a part of the west's PR campaign.

Why were folks like these idiots not probed when they returned from Pakistan or when they were going to Pakistan?.

Of course they also should have their intelligence gathering done properly, but then that's not what we are discussing here.

At one time, they were the heroes of the west...so maybe those with short memories forget things and blame Pakistan for it..

If you could so gladly take their accolades, why are you shying away from the brickbats?

I say Pakistan should stay proud of what it did...individuals are the concern of other countries, not Pakistan..

'What it did' and what about whats doing now?!!

look at the causes of injustice and polarisation in the world. That would answer why some guy in Germany wants to travel all the way to Pakistan or Afghanistan to take part in a struggle that is so distant from him.

And here you go....defending them.

 

[yarmook]

Its just a plot guys. Even muslims in australia r being targetted for being FUNDEMENTALIST.

Whereas what muslims in Australia have to do anyting with terrorismn?

They are just trying to show down muslms and then show down Pakistanis as we are the only Islamic nuclear power.

And talking abt INDIANS let them live in there BOLLYWOOD headshaking style. Tell u truth no one cares about WHAT HEADSHAKING INDDDDIAN say ? trust me!!!
Let them shake more and more INDDDDDDIAN!!!!

 

[blain2]

Afghani freedom...lol...like Bush's Iraqi feedom.

Maybe you are clueless but getting rid of 500,000 Russian troops in Afghanistan was every bit a struggle for the Afghan freedom and Pakistan was right in the middle of it.

So you blame west for promoting training camps inside your land. What was you and your ovt doing then? Didn't you realise the folly of being a satellite state for US?

Pakistan was not a satellite. It had a real concern with regards to Russian ingress into Pakistan after they took over Afghanistan...does self-preservation make sense to you? And despite your glee about us being satellite, I will ask you the same question in about 2-5 years. Lets see who is whose satellite.

Thats the whole thing mate, thats what im saying. Even such vast evidences of your citizens being involved and your land being used for bombing foreign countries doesnt make you ashamed. Whats there to discuss now?

Yes it does not make me ashamed. What is shameful is the way you guys brag about freaking democracy (trying to chummy up to the US, oh big brother please notice us, we are your natural partners...you (the US) are the original democracy and we (India) are the biggest democracy (all the while we shaft a considerable population of Kashmir from exercising their right at democracy )

Also name me one Pakistani (I.E. Pakistani citizen who has been involved in Al_Qaeda plots anywhere outside of Pakistan for terrorist acts).

PR...you call this PR!!! God save you. These same guys are killing your own soldiers is that also a part of the west's PR campaign.

Its not really PR but more of a propaganda. Bombings in UK, India and elsewhere are not because of Pakistanis or Pakistan....people have issues with things that are screwed up in your conduct of foreign or domestic policy. Take note that the people involved in Germany have been linked to Uzbekistan's movement for liberation.

Of course they also should have their intelligence gathering done properly, but then that's not what we are discussing here.

Yes obviously you are not talking about that since that point does not allow you to bash Pakistan shamelessly....so before you carry on, I would say look within.

If you could so gladly take their accolades, why are you shying away from the brickbats?

Who has taken their accolades? Most Pakistanis know that their accolades do not account for ****...we think the same of their attacks and brickbats as you put it. They can shove both up their rears.

'What it did' and what about whats doing now?!!

What it did was to help a country that could not help itself defend against naked, ugly aggression while your shamelss democracy was one of the only countries at the UN which supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. What Pakistan is doing now is also more meaningful than anything India could do.

And here you go....defending them.

Yes I defend the causes, not all of the means. A Kashmiri or Chechen or Afghan or Iraqi is subjugated and there is no if and but about it. If you are too blind to see that then its not my problem. I disagree with their means...so not sure how I am defending them?? Care to explain?

 

[Bull]

Maybe you are clueless but getting rid of 500,000 Russian troops in Afghanistan was every bit a struggle for the Afghan freedom and Pakistan was right in the middle of it.

And what are you doing about the US invasion and cross border bombings....? Remember satelite....!!!

I will ask you the same question in about 2-5 years. Lets see who is whose satellite.

So are you admitting you are one now. Lol you expect us to go your way....pathetic, no cpuntry will fall the way your country as.

Yes it does not make me ashamed. What is shameful is the way you guys brag about freaking democracy (trying to chummy up to the US, oh big brother please notice us, we are your natural partners...you (the US) are the original democracy and we (India) are the biggest democracy (all the while we shaft a considerable population of Kashmir from exercising their right at democracy )

I never mentioned democracy anywhere. And yeah speaking about democray, its not something we got about bragging but somethign which is said about us by others. Go chec your facts, and yeah whats you problem if we say so. Is it bco you tried and failed miserably everytime and has 2 democratically elected PM's forced into exile, and one of them NZ ran with his life after outside power ( Saudi, Hariri) brokered a deal.

Also name me one Pakistani (I.E. Pakistani citizen who has been involved in Al_Qaeda plots anywhere outside of Pakistan for terrorist acts).

I dont know, ask CIA instead, they might have the names.

Its not really PR but more of a propaganda. Bombings in UK, India and elsewhere are not because of Pakistanis or Pakistan....people have issues with things that are screwed up in your conduct of foreign or domestic policy.

See you are again justifying it.

Yes obviously you are not talking about that since that point does not allow you to bash Pakistan shamelessly....so before you carry on, I would say look within.

Well we too have our own share of scums, but they are domestic. Here we are speaking about scums within going abroad and creating hell.

Who has taken their accolades? Most Pakistanis know that their accolades do not account for ****...

I can see those in every US - Pakistani diplomatic meeting.

What it did was to help a country that could not help itself defend against naked, ugly aggression while your shamelss democracy was one of the only countries at the UN which supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

As i asked you early, why did you dump your own mulsim bros? Who ordered you to? How come russian invasion was fought but not the American?

Yes I defend the causes, not all of the means. A Kashmiri or Chechen or Afghan or Iraqi is subjugated and there is no if and but about it. If you are too blind to see that then its not my problem. I disagree with their means...so not sure how I am defending them?? Care to explain?

NNow you made it clear, it wasnt so before. So cheers.

 

[blain2]

Don't care to respond to all of your post..its the same old regurgitated sarcasm against Pakistan.

So are you admitting you are one now. Lol you expect us to go your way....pathetic, no cpuntry will fall the way your country as.

Yeah we will see....its not like stupid policies have not held India back for the past 60 years...not sure where you get the arrogance to assume that India can never go the way of the others? At least we have something to look back to and say that it was not good for us....you guys are just entering the turbulent waters of dealing with the US (thus far the headlong embrace shows nothing but hurry which is making the geo-political waters ever so more choppy in Asia..making China a direct adversary by joining the US coalition is not very smart...US is many thousands of miles away from the Chinese, you guys live next to them and us)...so lets not be too arrogant my Indian friend. You may think that you are very smart and you and your government has thought it through all the way, but there are way too many variables that make your claims of "never" sound unrealistic.