German Chancellor Merkel urges European countries to cooperate with China

[ariez168]

 

[Song Hong]

Both Germany and Italy that are friendly with China are former Axis -- no coincidence.

 

[Figaro]

Both Germany and Italy that are friendly with China are former Axis -- no coincidence.

But China was not part of the Axis in WW2?

 

[gangsta_rap]

Both Germany and Italy that are friendly with China are former Axis -- no coincidence.

it goes before that - the sino deutsch cooperation agreement was something that started before ww2 during the weimar government
in addition italy is probably one of the oldest european cultures that has maintained its relations with china (marco polo in the yuan dynasty etc)

 

[Song Hong]

Hitler helped China against Japan in WW2, until 1941-- that was 4 years into the Sino-Japanese war.

But China was not part of the Axis in WW2?

it goes before that - the sino deutsch cooperation agreement was something that started before ww2 during the weimar government
in addition italy is probably one of the oldest european cultures that has maintained its relations with china (marco polo in the yuan dynasty etc)

 

[Daniel808]

https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-china/news/china-one-of-germanys-eu-presidency-priorities/

 

[SuperStar20]

https://www.politico.eu/article/poll-germans-pin-blame-on-china-for-coronavirus-pandemic/

 

[tower9]

Germany's cooperative stance with China is not guaranteed when Merkel is replaced by another leader. However, the fact that Germany sells a lot of goods to China is the primary reason why they don't want an overtly hostile relationship with China. However, if Chinese companies start becoming peer competitors to German brands, this may change.

 

[Song Hong]

Germany and Italy is more or less neutral with bias in favor of US. This is the collective will of various German power poles, not up to Merkel alone to decide.

China just got to maintain it in this way, and prevent Germany from going all the way to US.

 

[mmr]

Good. Disagreement dont mean stop trade.

 

[Daniel808]

https://www.politico.eu/article/poll-germans-pin-blame-on-china-for-coronavirus-pandemic/

Another indian cheap propaganda, who ENVY with China

Meanwhile, an Italian poll sees China as the most friendly foreign country, followed by Russia. Germany is considered the least friendly foreign power, followed by France. Another poll says 44 per cent of Italians favour staying in the EU against 42 per cent who want to leave. Two years ago, that relationship was 65 per cent against 26 per cent in favour of staying.

Maybe it was the EU’s lack of solidarity with Italy in the early phase of the Covid-19 crisis that brought latent Euroscepticism out into the open. Either way, these are deeply alarming figures. Twenty years of eurozone membership have taken Italians to a point where they consider China as their most important strategic partner.

This is absurd on so many levels, but it is also an astonishing failure of the EU to have let it come to that. The EU hopes that the recovery fund will go some way to address Italy’s lurch into full-blown Euroscepticism. Some have celebrated Europe’s “Hamiltonian moment” when German chancellor Angela Merkel and France’s President Emmanuel Macron agreed their deal for the recovery fund. A back-of-the-envelope calculation of the net fiscal effect for Italy will tell you that it is unlikely to exceed 1.5 per cent of gross domestic product, in the best scenario. I am not sure that will be enough to persuade Italy to stop breaking European ranks on China.

Even in Germany, China’s reputation is increasing. A recent poll found that the number of Germans who seek closer relations with China is 36 per cent, against 37 per cent who favour the US. That gap used to be much wider. Among young Germans, China leads the US by a wide margin.



https://www.ft.com/content/4ca9aafe-9c37-11ea-adb1-529f96d8a00b

 

[mmr]

Germany's cooperative stance with China is not guaranteed when Merkel is replaced by another leader. However, the fact that Germany sells a lot of goods to China is the primary reason why they don't want an overtly hostile relationship with China. However, if Chinese companies start becoming peer competitors to German brands, this may change.

That wont happen any time soon. German companies are way ahead specially auto sector which is the back bone of german economy.

Another indian cheap propaganda, who ENVY with China

Meanwhile, an Italian poll sees China as the most friendly foreign country, followed by Russia. Germany is considered the least friendly foreign power, followed by France. Another poll says 44 per cent of Italians favour staying in the EU against 42 per cent who want to leave. Two years ago, that relationship was 65 per cent against 26 per cent in favour of staying.

Maybe it was the EU’s lack of solidarity with Italy in the early phase of the Covid-19 crisis that brought latent Euroscepticism out into the open. Either way, these are deeply alarming figures. Twenty years of eurozone membership have taken Italians to a point where they consider China as their most important strategic partner.

This is absurd on so many levels, but it is also an astonishing failure of the EU to have let it come to that. The EU hopes that the recovery fund will go some way to address Italy’s lurch into full-blown Euroscepticism. Some have celebrated Europe’s “Hamiltonian moment” when German chancellor Angela Merkel and France’s President Emmanuel Macron agreed their deal for the recovery fund. A back-of-the-envelope calculation of the net fiscal effect for Italy will tell you that it is unlikely to exceed 1.5 per cent of gross domestic product, in the best scenario. I am not sure that will be enough to persuade Italy to stop breaking European ranks on China.

Even in Germany, China’s reputation is increasing. A recent poll found that the number of Germans who seek closer relations with China is 36 per cent, against 37 per cent who favour the US. That gap used to be much wider. Among young Germans, China leads the US by a wide margin.



https://www.ft.com/content/4ca9aafe-9c37-11ea-adb1-529f96d8a00b

Buddy indians think every one hates china and everyone loves india.

Just follow there media you will notice that.

 

[Figaro]

China just got to maintain it in this way, and prevent Germany from going all the way to US.

With Trump in power, China does not have to worry about this

 

[zectech]

Both Germany and Italy that are friendly with China are former Axis -- no coincidence.

We are occupied. Italy is not in on the Far Reich of Washington, London, New Delhi and Moscow.

Italy betrayed our values once, I hope we never do that again. Google the term: 'Mutilated Victory'. Fr UK promised the world to us after the war, we betrayed our friend and ally Germany, and were betrayed by the Entente after the war.

The same group that lied to us, lied to the Arabs with Lawrence of Arabia, caused the stab in the back to Germany.

If Italy sided with our friends, the geopolitical community would be totally different. China would not be even communist. You would be a very successful and rich democracy in China. Indochina, that would be a Germany colony, still today even. Fr UK US would be the losers and trying to warmonger and start wars; for Germany and Italy to error. The UNSC would be Germany, Austria, Italy, (Turkey) and Bulgaria.

You see after Germany beat Russia and could focus on the Western front, the Bulgarian front collapsed, then the Turkish front collapsed, then the Austrians got out of the war. If the Austrians were not fighting the Italians and the Italians opened a second front on the French in WWI, Austria would have defeated the Allies in Greece. Even a Turkish separate peace would not have defeated the Central Powers.

The Great War determined the fate of the world for the 20th century. WWII was nazis vs nazis. Italy wanted to attack Germany in the 1930s to defend fascist Austria from German nazis. Italy was pushed into the alliance with Hitler by the UK and others in the League of Nations. We simply wanted our share of the post-WWI world that was promised to us to betray Germany. There were other reasons for us to betray Germany, our national anthem is about the rivalry with Austria, Austria hates us and we hate the Austrians. Those Austrians we hated are gone -the Habsburgs. They stole our Italian land when we were weak and they still held Italian land in 1914.

Italians never forget and never forget nor forgive a betrayal. Any sane Italian would never really support the Washington Axis of Evil. Only fake Italians like those found in the north, who are related to the Irish, like the US.

Too bad Japanese nationalism is being used for Washington terrorists. China should use that nationalism to throw out the occupiers.

If Italy, Germany, Greece, China, Japan, and even France and Canada don't cooperate against Washington thugs... it is not good for the goals of freedom in the world.

NEVER TRUST LONDON OR WASHINGTON, NEVER. Lying Liars and the lying liars who support them.

 

[SuperStar20]

Another indian cheap propaganda, who ENVY with China

Meanwhile, an Italian poll sees China as the most friendly foreign country, followed by Russia. Germany is considered the least friendly foreign power, followed by France. Another poll says 44 per cent of Italians favour staying in the EU against 42 per cent who want to leave. Two years ago, that relationship was 65 per cent against 26 per cent in favour of staying.

Maybe it was the EU’s lack of solidarity with Italy in the early phase of the Covid-19 crisis that brought latent Euroscepticism out into the open. Either way, these are deeply alarming figures. Twenty years of eurozone membership have taken Italians to a point where they consider China as their most important strategic partner.

This is absurd on so many levels, but it is also an astonishing failure of the EU to have let it come to that. The EU hopes that the recovery fund will go some way to address Italy’s lurch into full-blown Euroscepticism. Some have celebrated Europe’s “Hamiltonian moment” when German chancellor Angela Merkel and France’s President Emmanuel Macron agreed their deal for the recovery fund. A back-of-the-envelope calculation of the net fiscal effect for Italy will tell you that it is unlikely to exceed 1.5 per cent of gross domestic product, in the best scenario. I am not sure that will be enough to persuade Italy to stop breaking European ranks on China.

Even in Germany, China’s reputation is increasing. A recent poll found that the number of Germans who seek closer relations with China is 36 per cent, against 37 per cent who favour the US. That gap used to be much wider. Among young Germans, China leads the US by a wide margin.



https://www.ft.com/content/4ca9aafe-9c37-11ea-adb1-529f96d8a00b

Are you living under rock?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/01/coronavirus-eu-chief-backs-investigation-with-china-into-origin.html
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