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Geopolitical Diary: India's Afghanistan Option

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Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee said at a conference in New Delhi on Wednesday that Pakistan is still sponsoring international terrorism and must be disciplined. India has reiterated this message on a near-daily basis ever since the November attacks in Mumbai, but the only action it has taken has been limited to issuing rhetoric.

There is no question that the Mumbai attacks outraged India’s decision-makers, the vast majority of whom maintain that there are clear and identifiable links between the perpetrators and Pakistan’s military establishment. As far as New Delhi is concerned, the Islamist militant proxies that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency long has supported are still well within the military’s reach and could be reined in if Islamabad had the will to do so.

In the wake of the attacks, India prepared for military action – with possibilities ranging from surgical strikes and hot-pursuit operations in Pakistani-administered Kashmir to a full-scale war. Pakistan, nervous, redeployed troops from the Afghan border in the west to the eastern border with India. At that point, Pakistan’s best hope was to pressure the United States into holding India back, which it did by reminding Washington of the risk it would incur to its supply lines in Pakistan – critical to fighting the war in Afghanistan — if its forces confronted a military threat from India.

But it wasn’t just U.S. pressure that could restrain India. The Indians recognized that they lacked good options for responding forcefully against Pakistan. Limited strikes in Pakistani-administered Kashmir would have mainly symbolic value, given that many of the militants there had already had time to relocate. And any such strike likely would end up working in Pakistan’s favor: The local population, united by an Indian threat, would have good reason to rally behind the Pakistani military and government.

Any plans New Delhi might have had to go beyond a limited war in Kashmir did not have the full support of India’s own military — particularly the army, which lacked confidence in its capabilities and felt that stalemate was a far more likely outcome than victory. Indian policymakers also had to deal with the uncomfortable possibility that those who carried out the Mumbai attacks likely had sought to pull India into a military confrontation with Pakistan. The more Pakistan destabilized, the more room jihadists in the region would have to maneuver. Any significant military action by India could be seen as playing into the militants’ hands –- and could intensify the jihadist focus on India for further attacks.

In short, India’s hands were tied, and as New Delhi spent time debating bad options and worse options, its window of opportunity to strike (when international outrage against Pakistan was at its peak) eventually closed.

But this is not to say that India is left without any options. On the contrary, New Delhi is keeping open the option of hot-pursuit strikes in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, and is moving forward with plans for covert operations inside Pakistan to target militant networks. The Indians also recognize that a follow-on attack would require them to take some level of military action. But there is another pressure tactic under consideration, which involves reaching into Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is essentially the extension of Pakistan’s western buffer against foreign threats. Without a foothold in Kabul, Pakistan runs the risk of being sandwiched between a hostile power to its west and its main rival, India, to the east — a position it was in during the Cold War when the Soviet Union, then allied with India, invaded Afghanistan. As a result, Pakistan must rely heavily on its Pashtun ties to Afghanistan to secure its western frontier.

The Indians know what makes the Pakistanis jumpy, and they have spent recent years increasing their involvement in reconstruction work in Afghanistan to make good with Kabul, whose relationship with Pakistan has grown shaky due to the Taliban insurgency plaguing the country. So far, India has not ventured beyond its $86 million reconstruction commitment to Afghanistan, but has been weighing the rather contentious possibility of sending troops to the country to help fight the insurgency.

This would be a gigantic step for India to take, and one that would send the Pakistanis through the roof. India is extremely wary of deploying forces beyond its border. (It learned the pains of counterinsurgency the hard way, while engaged in a bloody war of attrition with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in the late 1980s.) New Delhi prefers to keep to itself in foreign policy matters, particularly when it comes to fighting other states’ wars. But sources in Indian defense circles say there are serious discussions going on among the political and military leadership over the Afghan option. Indian army chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor publicly raised the possibility Jan. 14, saying in a conference, “Changing our strategic policy towards Kabul in terms of raising military stakes is one of the factors that is to be determined politically.”

Kapoor was phrasing his statement carefully, essentially saying it is up to the politicians to give the military orders to deploy. But he also was deliberate in his message to Pakistan: If Islamabad continues to push India through its array of Islamist militant proxies, India could end up making a strategic decision to break through a few foreign policy barriers and shoulder some of the security burden on Pakistan’s western frontier. At a time when U.S. tolerance for Pakistan is wearing dangerously thin, and when the United States and India are exploring deeper, long-term and more strategic ties, this type of adversarial encirclement is a threat that potentially could shake Pakistan to its core.

That is, if India actually follows through. As mentioned earlier, this move would mark a significant shift in Indian foreign policy — not to mention requiring the coordination and integration of Indian military efforts in Afghanistan with U.S. and NATO operations. And there is currently no indication that the discussions are anywhere near an implementation stage.

Also, the United States would probably prefer that India keep things as they are for now. An Indian military presence in Afghanistan would make a juicy target for jihadists in the region, and it would give Pakistan all the more incentive to redirect and intensify the insurgency in Afghanistan, putting both the United States and India in an even stickier situation.

However, the threat of sending Indian troops to Afghanistan would do a decent job of keeping Pakistan off-balance. And, at least for the moment, that is what New Delhi and Washington want, to intimidate Pakistan into giving up its militant proxies. Time will tell if the Indians actually put the Afghan option into practice, but the Pakistanis are certainly keeping watch.

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I really hope the India does take the Afganistan route. It will benefit India, and should change the geo-political landscape of the south-east region. And it also gives India more flexibility in dealing with the terrorist camps then the quagmire it is in at the current position
 
I really hope the India does take the Afganistan route. It will benefit India, and should change the geo-political landscape of the south-east region. And it also gives India more flexibility in dealing with the terrorist camps then the quagmire it is in at the current position

Cool so next time if there is a another Incident like Mumbai don't cry like Crocodiles and remember what have you been doing from Afghanistan to Pakistan that's the Result of those sins.

"As you sow, so shall you reap"

Wish you best of Luck, Continue to Play with Fire.
 
Cool so next time if there is a another Incident like Mumbai don't cry like Crocodiles and remember

That is the whole objective, there should be no next Mumbai incedent period.
 
To: Hindu India

From: A1Kaid

Subject: War

Date: January 22, 2009 C.E.


Listen to me you Indians!

While you complain and itch about Pakistani backed militants and networks attacking within your country. The same time RAW is supporting separatist in Baluchistan and arming rebels in Baluchistan to destabilize Pakistan....

You can't have your cake and eat it too...

Understand that in the shadows and dark side RAW and MOSSAD are collaborating to execute bombings in Pakistan, and together MOSSAD and RAW are trying to penetrate and spy on crucial assets of Pakistan...Not too long ago a female Indian RAW agent was captured in Pakistan's western region...

"India is getting serious"

No no no! Pakistan is getting serious, and Pakistan will take the appropriate offensive and maneuvers to deal with you snakes...

Understand we will not grant you peace while you and foreign agents spoil our beloved security and peace, instead we will bless you with hell and instability....


ISLAM ZINDABAD!

ISLAMIC REPUB. of PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
 
The decision to deploy Indian troops in Afghanistan isn't an Indian decision, it is a US one.

Given the costs associated with an Indian deployment, in terms of inflaming the insurgency in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, and therefore destabilizing the region even further, the US is unlikely to approve any such move, though it may be engaging India in such talks to apply an indirect pressure on Pakistan for greater cooperation, or continuation of cooperation.

The GoA-GoP relationship has improved considerably in the wake of the PPP led coalition and Gen. Kiyani taking over the civilian government and Army respectively, with analysts pointing out the Afghan Presidents refusal to tow the Indian line during his visit there on hurling accusations at Pakistan, as was the case little over a year ago.

The DG ISI's interview in Der Spiegel mentioned his 4 hour long meeting with the Afghan Intelligence chief, that ended quite well, with the acceptance of an invitation for Amrullah Saleh to visit Islamabad - a big deal considering he was the deputy intelligence chief for Ahmed Massoud in the Northern Alliance.
 
india cannot station its troops into afghanistan, and it most certainly cannot station 100,000 of them. we can't even begin to imagine the logistics of such a task. if NATO has so much problems, imagine how much india will have considering that
  • the number is said to be 100,000
  • they cannot fly troops above Pakistani or Chinese airspace
  • Iran will be persuaded by SCO(Pakistan, China, and even Russia) to prohibit india from using their airspace and probably even land routes
  • extraordinary backlash from local populace already intolerant of foreigners, indian 'hindu' soldiers will exacerbate the condition way beyond control
  • let's not even get into the financial details...
 
india cannot station its troops into afghanistan, and it most certainly cannot station 100,000 of them. we can't even begin to imagine the logistics of such a task. if NATO has so much problems, imagine how much india will have considering that
  • the number is said to be 100,000
  • they cannot fly troops above Pakistani or Chinese airspace
  • Iran will be persuaded by SCO(Pakistan, China, and even Russia) to prohibit india from using their airspace and probably even land routes
  • extraordinary backlash from local populace already intolerant of foreigners, indian 'hindu' soldiers will exacerbate the condition way beyond control
  • let's not even get into the financial details...

Good points

Though the US could not give a damn or have much respect for local sentiment and feelings, that (local sentiment) never manages to find it's way in their decision making nor planning...

Also I consider this a very provocative move to now position Indian troops in Afghanistan or to the West of Pakistan, this is a serious cause an alert for Pakistan's national security.

In response Pakistan should pressure Afghan government to refuse such a move by India and the US...Also Pakistan day to day should maintain and raise it's military and train it's soldiers to meet this new threat...

I also advise Pakistan to collaborate with the locals more as many of them have sympathies with Muslim Pakistan and animosity against pagan Indians...
 
The decision to deploy Indian troops in Afghanistan isn't an Indian decision, it is a US one.

the US is unlikely to approve any such move,

Mr. AM,

Which one is it the US or Indian Decision.

I am strictly speaking based on Indian perspective, that if India did engage there troops in afganistan, like the bloogers specifices, there would be an ample preassure on Pakistanie terrorist group like LET and JUD, and it's establishments.

If Islamabad continues to push India through its array of Islamist militant proxies, India could end up making a strategic decision to break through a few foreign policy barriers and shoulder some of the security burden on Pakistan’s western frontier. At a time when U.S. tolerance for Pakistan is wearing dangerously thin, and when the United States and India are exploring deeper, long-term and more strategic ties, this type of adversarial encirclement is a threat that potentially could shake Pakistan to its core.
 
Mr. AM,

Which one is it the US or Indian Decision.
That is clear from my post - it is a US decision, and the US is unlikely to allow India in at this point. Only if Pakistan turns into a completely uncooperative state in the WoT in Afghanistan will the benefits outweigh the costs of an Indian deployment in Afghanistan, for the US/NATO.

I am strictly speaking based on Indian perspective, that if India did engage there troops in afganistan, like the bloogers specifices, there would be an ample preassure on Pakistanie terrorist group like LET and JUD, and it's establishments.

If Islamabad continues to push India through its array of Islamist militant proxies, India could end up making a strategic decision to break through a few foreign policy barriers and shoulder some of the security burden on Pakistan’s western frontier. At a time when U.S. tolerance for Pakistan is wearing dangerously thin, and when the United States and India are exploring deeper, long-term and more strategic ties, this type of adversarial encirclement is a threat that potentially could shake Pakistan to its core.

The Indian perspective does not matter at his point since it is primarily a US decision to allow Indian troops into Afghanistan, and given the complications that would arise from such a move, and make the insurgency worse, why would the US do that?

An Indian deployment would only serve to exacerbate the situation by increasing the insurgency and possibly reduce Pakistani cooperation - therefore it makes no sense from the US perspective to have India deploy in Afghanistan, at this point in time.
 
That is clear from my post - it is a US decision, and the US is unlikely to allow India in at this point. Only if Pakistan turns into a completely uncooperative state in the WoT in Afghanistan will the benefits outweigh the costs of an Indian deployment in Afghanistan, for the US/NATO.



The Indian perspective does not matter at his point since it is primarily a US decision to allow Indian troops into Afghanistan, and given the complications that would arise from such a move, and make the insurgency worse, why would the US do that?

An Indian deployment would only serve to exacerbate the situation by increasing the insurgency and possibly reduce Pakistani cooperation - therefore it makes no sense from the US perspective to have India deploy in Afghanistan, at this point in time.

I totally agree, it will only make things worse. it will be strategic blunder by india, i do not think indians will do it. the pitfalls are obvious, indian people will be really angry too.

besides it will squander whatever goodwill india has generated in AG. and yes, AM is right too, that USA will not allow it, but I think USA and others will certainly use the prospect to intimidate pakistan.

reletaed news

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Indian-built Afghan road opened
 
That is clear from my post - it is a US decision, and the US is unlikely to allow India in at this point. Only if Pakistan turns into a completely uncooperative state in the WoT in Afghanistan will the benefits outweigh the costs of an Indian deployment in Afghanistan, for the US/NATO.



The Indian perspective does not matter at his point since it is primarily a US decision to allow Indian troops into Afghanistan, and given the complications that would arise from such a move, and make the insurgency worse, why would the US do that?

An Indian deployment would only serve to exacerbate the situation by increasing the insurgency and possibly reduce Pakistani cooperation - therefore it makes no sense from the US perspective to have India deploy in Afghanistan, at this point in time.


Yes you are right that it does not make sense from US perspective, but for India it would be an advantage to do so. Another alternative theory for India would be to join NATO, and that would remove the confusion. Even though India is not thinking in these terms, but for it's advantage i would propose it should.

‘India should join NATO’

Chandigarh, Dec 6 (IANS) A new political outfit, Jago (Awake!) Party, Saturday demanded India give up its non-aligned status and join the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) to more effectively combat terrorism.”The more than five-decade old Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) is no longer relevant in the current world order. The world is no longer divided in blocs headed by two superpowers. Now the questions faced by our country need fresh answers,” party chief Deepak Mittal said here.

“We should join NATO to fight the menace of crossborder terrorism”, he said, adding that if this country were part of the alliance, “any attack on India will be considered an attack on NATO and all the member countries will reply with their combined strength to fight the source of the attack”.

The party was set up Aug 2007 and the Election Commission registered it as a political party Jan 2008.

The party fielded 30 candidates in the recently concluded assembly elections in Rajasthan. It is also planning to contest the forthcoming general elections.

Mittal, a local businessman, said the party, led by “educated and competent individuals, is dedicated to awake the sleeping populace of our country”.

All political parties, national or regional, are playing divisive politics based on caste and religion, he said, adding they decided to enter politics to protest the current scenario and were against “all deceitful politicians”.

“Our party candidates will be intellectuals drawn from the common people and professional politicians who have contested elections from other parties will never be considered as our candidates,” said Mittal.

‘India should join NATO’
 
the indians need to be very careful to see who they are backing. Karzai is now very unpopular not only in afghanistan but also in the international community. the picture in afghanistan is not that good. i personally think that the afghan threat is very much exaggerated. even if we make an effective government in afghanistan the south will always be out of there control like it has always been even during the time of the king and the soviets. what pakistan needs to do in pay and equip local warlords and tribal chiefs so that afghan territory does not become a problem for us. i think this is an approach that we have to take into consideration. let the central government do what is wants just keep the south under pakistani influence.
 
I really hope the India does take the Afganistan route. It will benefit India, and should change the geo-political landscape of the south-east region. And it also gives India more flexibility in dealing with the terrorist camps then the quagmire it is in at the current position

he he he mate you need to get off that crack you are smoking,afghanistan cant do nothing nor can india, talk is cheap, india always threatening pakistan.

I f you gonna do something do it, or shutup about it.

India is not gonna get much out of afghanistan, history has shown that.

If indian froces come afghanistan then all we have to do is armup and support the talibs, to take you guys out.
 
Washington (IANS): Advocating a regional approach to Afghanistan, the U.S. defence chief has said that India has an important role to play there despite historic tensions with Pakistan accentuated by Mumbai terror attacks.

In "Afghanistan, a regional approach is critical. And it includes not just Afghanistan, but Afghanistan and Pakistan," Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff said on Tuesday at a media briefing on U.S. National Security Strategy.

"I also believe that India plays an important role here," he said at his first media interaction after the January 20 inauguration of President Barack Obama. "India has taken significantly positive steps to invest in Afghanistan, has for some period of time," he noted.

"And certainly Iran, as a bordering state, plays a role as well," said Mullen suggesting "it is important to engage Iran" in a dialogue "that finds some mutual interests, there is potential there for moving ahead together."

"But I really leave that to the diplomats to lead with that dialogue."

Asked if Pakistan is concerned about India's expanding role in Afghanistan, Mullen said: "When I talk about a regional approach, I include Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran as well as India.

"And I think the regional countries in there have a very significant stake in stability and in outcomes which are positive, in that region, as opposed to those that might go in the other direction."

"So I think the strategic leadership and views, opinions and support provided, by India, will be very clear," Mullen said noting, "India has taken significantly positive steps to invest in Afghanistan, has for some period of time."

"And yet there's certainly a historic tension that's there, between Pakistan and India, obviously accentuated greatly as a result of the Mumbai attacks," Mullen said.

But he was comforted that the strategic leadership, in both Pakistan and India, has been such that any kind of conflict did not break after Mumbai attacks, blamed on Pakistan-based terror group, Lashkar-e-Taiba.

And I think continuing in that direction, in the future, is very important, as we resolve that particular-the Mumbai attacks, I think, properly as opposed to getting in any kind of conflict.

So each country has got significant stakes in the region. And I think it's the joint contribution of all those countries, which would help us move- which could help us move forward in a positive way.

In reply to a question about military-to-military relationship with Pakistan, Mullen said he had "a very strong relationship" with Pakistan army chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, as also Admiral Sureesh Mehta, chairman of India's Chiefs of Staff Committee.

"So my relations are not just limited to Pakistan," he said adding, Kayani has "got some huge challenges, as does Admiral Mehta in India. I mean, we all have huge challenges."
 
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