Genetic connection with IVC for Entire South Asia.

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

So? Roman sites can be found in Syria closer to Iraq than Italy. Should Iraq claim Roman legacy?

Are we talking of an ever expanding empire here that spans multitude of nations and ethnicities or are we talking of a cvilization? apples and oranges

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Boy is thick.

Its his indoctrination which is making him look like an absolute muppet.

 

[Bilal.]

Are we talking of an ever expanding empire here that spans multitude of nations and ethnicities or are we talking of a cvilization? apples and oranges

Same with IVC, it expanded over time and has some peripheral sites in india closer to Pakistan than to the center of India.

Its his indoctrination which is making him look like an absolute muppet.

He is so thick that I schooled him in one of the Bangladeshi thread and the boy now believes I am Bangladeshi. Didn’t correct him though since it proves how thick he is

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Same with IVC, it expanded over time and has some peripheral sites in india closer to Pakistan than to the center of India.

IVC has not been established as an empire

 

[Bilal.]

IVC has not been established as an empire

But it did expand. Same principle applies.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

IVC has not been established as an empire

Its bigger then empire or nationhood, its a Pakistani civilization, lasted for millenniums, dominant and unchallenged.

 

[Bilal.]

Its bigger then empire or nationhood, its a Pakistani civilization, lasted for millenniums, dominant and unchallenged.

And undisputed. Only Pakistan is the heir to the entire legacy. Including any peripheral sites that may be in neighboring countries.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

But it did expand. Same principle applies.

No record exists of it having been an multi ethnic empire (definition of empire)

 

[Bilal.]

No record exists of it having been an multi ethnic empire (definition of empire)

Expanded outwards the same way as other civilizations did. Should Egypt claim Assyrian legacy? Same principles apply.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Expanded outwards the same way as other civilizations did. Should Egypt claim Assyrian legacy? Same principles apply.

we cannot say anything about internal IVC chronology or structure as no records exist unlike Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations

 

[Bilal.]

we cannot say anything about internal IVC chronology or structure as no records exist unlike Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations

It’s clear that it was centered in present day Pakistan. So same principles apply.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The biggest IVC site Rakhigarhi is in India....the biggest IVC port is in India....IVC DNA only found in India...IVC chariots only found in India

What "biggest" IVC site? What "biggest" port? IF you are not lying then can you post the links to some credible and genuine evidence that confirms and prove your claims.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

What "biggest" IVC site? What "biggest" port? IF you are not lying then can you post the links to some credible and genuine evidence that confirms and prove your claims.

Rakhigarhi encompasses a set of 11 mounds with a confirmed size in excess of 350 hectares, according to the Global Heritage Fund Rakhigarhi is the largest and oldest Indus sites in the world.[5][6][7][1][8]

 

[Bilal.]

Rakhigarhi encompasses a set of 11 mounds with a confirmed size in excess of 350 hectares, according to the Global Heritage Fund Rakhigarhi is the largest and oldest Indus sites in the world.[5][6][7][1][8]

Doesn’t matter. Just like Egypt can’t claim Assyrian. levant countries can’t claim Egyptian civilization, Iraq can’t claim Roman civilization and Pakistan and Afghanistan can’t claim on Greek civilization.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

India shouldnt even be called INDIA. The indus river and Sindh (the name of which India/Hind came from) is itself within Pakistan... Present day "India" should be called Gangedesh since the Gange is in India and defines its geography/civilization.

Yes, very true. The name actually began with referance to Sindh and then morphed over millenia finally becoming standarzided by the British as the name for the entity they created.

But this is not unique. Romania is a country nowhere near or even touching the Italic peninsula let alone Rome yet it is called "Romania" and the other country is called "Italy". Today Romanians means entirely somebody else. Then you even have Roma Gyspsies again who also carry the root 'Rom' in their name but have nothing to to do with Ancient Rome. Bizzarely the people who do are today called Italians.

Then you also have other examples. A bunch of distant islands few decades ago joined together to make 'Indonesia' which again like India have nothing to do with Indos. There is even a US state Indiana, then we have West Indians. But the land that birthed the name is known as Pakistan.

Another great example is Asia. Orriginally it was used for Greek towns on the eastern side [modern Turkey] of the Aegean. Then the name got adopted for the entire peninsula. Over time all lands to east also got called Asia so modern Turkey began to be called Asia Minor to differantiate from Asia. Today in US often Asian means Chinese and Japanese and Turkey is often taken as European or Middle Eastern or Anatolia.

This is how it is and we must however clarify this always.