Gen. Raheel Sharif receiving proper welcome in Masjid-e-Nabwi

[TankMan]

Are people just flat out this stupid like the above post suggests???? Really? A TWO year old child knows that when you go to a foreign country as a dignitary, you are their government's responsibility. Either you have NO clue about international diplomatic relations or you chose to ignore reality when the case applies to "the other guy" you don't like!!

To expect that NS "pays" for his protocol outside of Pakistan, while the COAS was given the protocol with love form KSA, is probably the most silliest statement of the year!! Any dignitaries get the protocol. In fact, the COAS gets a much smaller protocol than the President and the PM of Pakistan.

Second, the COAS also sits in a 7 series BMW with MP protecting him. He doesn't exactly sit in Corolla. So until IK, and everyone else start to sit in Corollas, you have 0 reason to make these stupid points . I'd love to see your boss IK sitting in a Toyota Corolla, instead of a bullet proof Land Cruiser. If he "truly" represents the "poor" .

Talk about two faced hypocrites, who would do or say anything to get power for themselves, even get people killed and damage the country for billions!!! Reham Khan, being a British citizen and a newly wed wife, enjoyed the SAME protocol like the CM of KPK. And the woman wasn't even Pakistani!! Go figure!! The guy standing up for justice allowing his wife to be treated with the SAME protocol like the CM of KPK!!! Does it get any worst than this? Two, three or four faced politics by IK?

Both NS and RS represent Pakistan in their capacity. NS represents the ENTIRE Pakistan as THE Chief Executive of the country. While RS (although I am a big fan of him), represent ONLY a military and serves at the wish of the Premier, like anything educated, civil country.

Let's not over glorify the role of an organization, more than it needs to. Both, when traveling abroad, will get some protocol. But the Chief Executive gets the same protocol as the head of the state he's visiting. Take a look at NS's protocol in Washington and RS's give just TWO SUV's.

This is where the issue is, you guys are too divided between your little 550K military and 200 million people's vote power. It'll take time, but ALL the "wrinkles" will iron out. There will never be a military rule in Pakistan. Unless, the military thinks they can kill a few million innocent Pakistanis in cold blood, which will start a civil war at this point. Those days of the military rule are gone and RS supports this transition towards full diplomacy and democracy. One of the reason I like him.

Its some fools left on here and some in Islamabad who glorify the military more than needed, and it will end too. The military isn't a marketing organization, nor does it need to show case, every little bag of food it gives to a victim of an earth quake. That's their job like every other country's military!!

What a bullshit rant. IK or other politicians have nothing to do with this. And neither does a seven series BMW. Did you watch the video I showed you? Nawaz took 56 vehicles filled with police officers on a tour to a Pakistani city. That's what people complain about.

You have no idea what you are talking about, and you are so stuck up, so childishly arrogant in your delusions, that you call me stupid without even watching the video I posted and without even understanding what the people you claim are hypocrites actually complain about.

I'll say it again:

No Pakistani complains about Nawaz's foreign protocol.

They complain about his excessive protocol WITHIN PAKISTAN, which is paid for by Pakistani taxpayers.

You taunted Pakistanis because they don't complain about Raheel Sharif's foreign protocol.

I told you that's because it's not paid for by Pakistani taxpayers, but by the foreign (Saudi) government.

You call me stupid and tell me that it's paid for by the foreign government.

The message of your first post was that people should criticize Raheel Sharif's protocol the same as they criticize Nawaz's protocol. Then you proceed to say that foreign protocol is a different thing.

And then have the audacity to talk about two-faced hypocrisy.

To expect that NS "pays" for his protocol outside of Pakistan, while the COAS was given the protocol with love form KSA, is probably the most silliest statement of the year!! Any dignitaries get the protocol. In fact, the COAS gets a much smaller protocol than the President and the PM of Pakistan.

NS does not pay for any protocol outside Pakistan. I never said or implied that. You, sir, are a liar.

 

[Viper0011.]

What a bullshit rant. IK or other politicians have nothing to do with this. And neither does a seven series BMW. Did you watch the video I showed you? Nawaz took 56 vehicles filled with police officers on a tour to a Pakistani city. That's what people complain about.
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And you conveniently forgot to locate IK's protocol and Reham's protocol (a British citizen, and a fling for a few months?)!!! Enough said. Look inside your own heart to find filth in you and fixing it, vs. ignoring your own mind funk and just blaming others for the SAME shiit you do, IK and other gangsters he's "hired" as leader, do!!

This "blame game" is the reason why IK's become the least powerful party in Pakistan's politics. He keeps complaining about others, but he does the same and that should be allowed!!

When IK starts rolling in a Toyota Corolla alone, come tell me. I'll bash NS and others with you. Till then, clean up your own mess. Ignoring your crap, but highlighting the same in others, without any progress for the people, won't get you any votes, like what happened a week ago!!!! And it'll continue to happen, unless you guys quit talking and accusing people, and START to DO the darn work!!

 

[Zarvan]

And ofcourse, no one thinks there is anything wrong with the "protocol". Had it been NS, I am sure, pages filled with hatred would've been written on here with proud by a mere few, who, otherwise, can't stop the actual power brokers, the PEOPLE from voting for him.

Love the two faced, group based hypocrisy. Nowhere else in the world will you find a nation divided between the military, "their guy" and "their group", all way above the real allegiance, that is, the country!!

Nawaz has robbed this country he runs this country not as PM but as Mafia don. He has looted billions from this country. Their is no hypocrisy here their is simple hated for Mafias like PML N and PPPP

And you conveniently forgot to locate IK's protocol and Reham's protocol (a British citizen, and a fling for a few months?)!!! Enough said. Look inside your own heart to find filth in you and fixing it, vs. ignoring your own mind funk and just blaming others for the SAME shiit you do, IK and other gangsters he's "hired" as leader, do!!

This "blame game" is the reason why IK's become the least powerful party in Pakistan's politics. He keeps complaining about others, but he does the same and that should be allowed!!

When IK starts rolling in a Toyota Corolla alone, come tell me. I'll bash NS and others with you. Till then, clean up your own mess. Ignoring your crap, but highlighting the same in others, without any progress for the people, won't get you any votes, like what happened a week ago!!!! And it'll continue to happen, unless you guys quit talking and accusing people, and START to DO the darn work!!

Imran protocall is not more than 5 years cars few times he had more those cars were not Government but personal cars of people who pay for their petrol not government. Sorry when their will be complete peace he will even now he hardly travels with much security. You first get your facts right before talking.

 

[Viper0011.]

Nawaz has robbed this country he runs this country not as PM but as Mafia don. He has looted billions from this country. Their is no hypocrisy here their is simple hated for Mafias like PML N and PPPP.

ANY LEGAL PROOFS for the bulleted accusations? Its a free world, you can say whatever you want. Key board warriors have no limits to lie!!

2: If NS is robbing the country, why is Gen. Raheel Sharif such a fan of his and is working very well with him???? If Mushy was here, he'd have tried his best to call NS a "traitor", "involved in anti-Pakistan activities", you know the usual speech people we hearing for the past 60 years, each time someone came in through votes and democratically???

3: Show me ONE proof of IK going with FIVE escort cars. I'll terminate my account from here permanently. Bull shiit has a limit and you and a few cross that and lie about everything so much that it's sad. And then you claim to be "religious" and use that card often. Does your God tell you to lie off your teeth so much and you'll be forgiven?? I thought lying in Islam was considered illegal, similar to the illicit acts of drinking Alcohol, having se*x before marriage and all? SO....you can use God as a reference when you want to, and lie the remainder of the time due to your personal hate???

Yea, double standard for yourself, for the guy and the party you like, and NO care for the country, it comes secondary in Pakistan, and people's own agenda's come first!!! VERY sad and the main reason why Pakistan's been so behind as honesty is a rare cow to find!!

 

[MEAGAN FOXSS]

Are you trying to say he didn't got proper welcome in MAKKAH. I don't know what's the point of this thread I don't know why these barelvis compared makkah to madinah. There's no comparison between makkah and madinah. Prophet muhammad (S.A.W) was born in makkah not madinah Prophet muhammed's family was a makkan family not a madani family. I don't know lol whats the beliefs of these barelvis who migrated to Pakistan from India lol evil mahajir barelvis . . . .

 

[iioal malik]

Stop fking comparing NZ With RS...

you dumb nuts find something better in life..99.9 of you the mixture of PMLQ and now moved into PTI...Low blowers

If RS gets honred and respected..I feel very proud ..but don't make this match controversial

 

[Zarvan]

ANY LEGAL PROOFS for the bulleted accusations? Its a free world, you can say whatever you want. Key board warriors have no limits to lie!!

2: If NS is robbing the country, why is Gen. Raheel Sharif such a fan of his and is working very well with him???? If Mushy was here, he'd have tried his best to call NS a "traitor", "involved in anti-Pakistan activities", you know the usual speech people we hearing for the past 60 years, each time someone came in through votes and democratically???

3: Show me ONE proof of IK going with FIVE escort cars. I'll terminate my account from here permanently. Bull shiit has a limit and you and a few cross that and lie about everything so much that it's sad. And then you claim to be "religious" and use that card often. Does your God tell you to lie off your teeth so much and you'll be forgiven?? I thought lying in Islam was considered illegal, similar to the illicit acts of drinking Alcohol, having se*x before marriage and all? SO....you can use God as a reference when you want to, and lie the remainder of the time due to your personal hate???

Yea, double standard for yourself, for the guy and the party you like, and NO care for the country, it comes secondary in Pakistan, and people's own agenda's come first!!! VERY sad and the main reason why Pakistan's been so behind as honesty is a rare cow to find!!

Because thug and moron Nawaz is PM and selected thug voted by people who were saying he is corrupt still voted for him. Yes Imran doesn't travel in 40 to 50 cars. Once he did although most cars were private still he apologized. You stop defending corrupt mafia head Nawaz Shareef

 

[Winchester]

I love the guy but this kind of hero worship is not beneficial.

 

[WishLivePak]

Oh dear, an american living few thousand miles away would stop at nothing to defend the Pakistani ganja.

In case you didn't know, this protocol is given by Saudi govt to all foreign dignitaries.

Secondly, this is the respect you get ! Respect is earned. Not bought.
And plz don't say these were paid supporters of army

Everyone has right to choose whatever person they like. This is democracy !

Is imran khan a digitnary?

I remember he wasn't even part of parliament (as he had resigned) this year when he went for Umra.

I love the guy but this kind of hero worship is not beneficial.

Was the case for Musharraf too. But Musharraf took wrong step and formed govt.

If he does the same, overthrow govt, people will treat him same as Musharaf. The reason he has so much respect is because him upholding democracy.

I hope he runs for elections and wins so future generals take democratic path to challenge corruption than imposing martial law.

 

[salarsikander]

Is imran khan a digitnary?

I remember he wasn't even part of parliament (as he had resigned) this year when he went for Umra

HI,

Do I care about that ???

Why do you guys think criticizing ( my democratic right) Ganja automatically means I support IK ??

Secondly, I could care less who or what he was, that doesnt concern me. If you have issues with him getting protocol in ''Saudi Arabia" please raise the matter with them !

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

ANY LEGAL PROOFS for the bulleted accusations? Its a free world, you can say whatever you want. Key board warriors have no limits to lie!!

2: If NS is robbing the country, why is Gen. Raheel Sharif such a fan of his and is working very well with him???? If Mushy was here, he'd have tried his best to call NS a "traitor", "involved in anti-Pakistan activities", you know the usual speech people we hearing for the past 60 years, each time someone came in through votes and democratically???

3: Show me ONE proof of IK going with FIVE escort cars. I'll terminate my account from here permanently. Bull shiit has a limit and you and a few cross that and lie about everything so much that it's sad. And then you claim to be "religious" and use that card often. Does your God tell you to lie off your teeth so much and you'll be forgiven?? I thought lying in Islam was considered illegal, similar to the illicit acts of drinking Alcohol, having se*x before marriage and all? SO....you can use God as a reference when you want to, and lie the remainder of the time due to your personal hate???

Yea, double standard for yourself, for the guy and the party you like, and NO care for the country, it comes secondary in Pakistan, and people's own agenda's come first!!! VERY sad and the main reason why Pakistan's been so behind as honesty is a rare cow to find!!

1. Apparently the PM and President are immunized from criminal cases.

2. Sometimes you have to shine and dine with the devil..

3. Only poor people fear God, the rich and mighty dont care about tomorrow.

4. If you think any of Pakistan's politicians care about Pakistan you're a stupid-idiot.

 

[Viper0011.]

1. Apparently the PM and President are immunized from criminal cases.
4. If you think any of Pakistan's politicians care about Pakistan you're a stupid-idiot.

There is only one idiot here, and that's the person I am addressing right now. If you are 16 and don't have have high school political science down, why post to show your stupid imagination to us?

You have both the American flags....do you really think any president, even in the US, is THAT immune to prosecution, even at the level of treason and "robbing" a country like the poster I responded to, was accusing NS of "robbing" Pakistan? That's treason. TRUST me, if that was true, the military would've intervened long time ago. So think before you write stupidity. Second, if someone can give real "proofs" of "robbing Pakistan" by the ruling party, the Supreme Court has ALL the legal authority to ask the Parliament to "impeach" the Premier and / OR / SC can take action, as serious as taking down NS!!!

If you don't know how the law and constitutions work, why the fukk stick your neck and write an internet warrior kiddy post, effing up such a serious argument?? Go get a Degree in Law or in Political Science at the least, and come back here to talk about how "governments and the legal systems work". Till then, check out new pictures of the F-16's or the JFT on some thread on here. You aren't qualified to post to this thread, to be frank with you.

Last, so if Pakistan's politicians don't care about Pakistan....who does??? The military has ruled Pakistan for 60 years, without making ANY progress for the average Pakistani, without creating more jobs, planning to handle the growing population, planning to control the electricity, water, hospitals, education, infrastructure......so its pretty clear that the dictators didn't care about Pakistan, even with ruling it for 60 years....and per YOU, the politicians don't care either, then who does??? Entertain me with your lack of smart as* logic!!!??

By the way, the things the military didn't do in their 60 years of rule, are the things the current government has been doing in less then three years. These people running Pakistan right now, have done MORE work, than what the military and other didn't do in the past 60+ years!!!

Sir the point here wasnt protocol given by the KSA but the reaction of the people to see the most popular General amognst them. Ofcourse the protocol given by KSA was the standard one that is given to all.

People have the SAME reaction to seeing NS, IK, Mushy or others. We've clearly seen all those videos. So the question is, why glorify RS to make political points? I personally like him, a great general and a great person. He's not the type who wants attention and fame. This isn't IK's fake media political campaign. This is a Man of Honor. He has earned respect everywhere. He doesn't need to be politicized by people who hate NS due to IK, or who want the military in power, both of these people are the same people who tried to cause such a big deal in the country at the time of sit ins.

So let these two faced people NOT politicize this man of honor and integrity!!

Because thug and moron Nawaz is PM and selected thug voted by people who were saying he is corrupt still voted for him. Yes Imran doesn't travel in 40 to 50 cars. Once he did although most cars were private still he apologized. You stop defending corrupt mafia head Nawaz Shareef

P.R.O.O.F.S????? NS is corrupt, "robbing the country", aka, treason, rigging , kick backs, etc,etc. We heard the broken record being played for two years now!!!! Without ONE fukking proof!!! Time to change the IK anthem to something else may be???? Something like "I am IK and I will NOW start to work for the people, so I may get their votes again" and a sorry for lying??? He won't do that. People like these, lie ALL their lives to cover for previous lying!!

I love the guy but this kind of hero worship is not beneficial.

Precisely my point!!!! This is the same exaggeration that Indians do to Modi. The difference is, RS is actually a MUCH better and respectable person then Modi. So why over-glorify him, and put a question mark on him through this fake publicity, when everyone already likes him and he has extreme integirty???

it must be hurting real bad. ask Indians for a little burnol.

Hurting what?? and who? You totally missed the point. I am personally a big fan of RS. I don't know how many of you currently or "ex" Pak military have met him to shake his hand and get a medal for 30 seconds. But I've talked to the guy many times. And I know his character and he's the opposite of Mushy and many previous dictators wanting power and fame. This guys a real soldier, black and white. His heart and background is filled with honor by serving his country.This guy's the BEST COAS Pakistan could ever get, period.

By writing these stupid posts and fake marketing propaganda on here and on other places, you are making his image questionable too. Everyone gets a protocol in KSA if you are a visiting dignitary, every Pakistani leaders will have people take pictures. So why over glorify him? And even all this on an event when he's visiting the house of God????

Think about the point I am trying to make. I am sure you'll get it, whether you want to show or hide your sense, its a different story.

What did I say? I said it was the foreign country's people. As they should be. You've said the same thing as I said, and then just called me stupid for it..

So this is the "real honest brave man" inside of you? You gave me a negative rating instead of giving me facts of your argument. And then deleted that post all together as you knew the rating was being given unnecessarily??? But you knew deleting your post would hide the fact that rating was given totally unnecessarily, but the negative rating would still stay on my profile / signatures??? I'd totally expect that from people like you, who lie about stuff to score political points, and NEVER have proofs. They can't face the reality so hide facts and hit from behind like you did. Instead of continuing on with the discussions based on facts if you had any.

@Irfan Baloch @Slav Defence @WebMaster : I was given a -ve rating from the user above. He then deleted his post but the rating stayed. This is sheer abuse of Think Tank power. You guys should find better TT's. Please reverse the rating. Thank you!!

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

There is only one idiot here, and that's the person I am addressing right now. If you are 16 and don't have have high school political science down, why post to show your stupid imagination to us?

You have both the American flags....do you really think any president, even in the US, is THAT immune to prosecution, even at the level of treason and "robbing" a country like the poster I responded to, was accusing NS of "robbing" Pakistan? That's treason. TRUST me, if that was true, the military would've intervened long time ago. So think before you write stupidity. Second, if someone can give real "proofs" of "robbing Pakistan" by the ruling party, the Supreme Court has ALL the legal authority to ask the Parliament to "impeach" the Premier and / OR / SC can take action, as serious as taking down NS!!!

If you don't know how the law and constitutions work, why the fukk stick your neck and write an internet warrior kiddy post, effing up such a serious argument?? Go get a Degree in Law or in Political Science at the least, and come back here to talk about how "governments and the legal systems work". Till then, check out new pictures of the F-16's or the JFT on some thread on here. You aren't qualified to post to this thread, to be frank with you.

Last, so if Pakistan's politicians don't care about Pakistan....who does??? The military has ruled Pakistan for 60 years, without making ANY progress for the average Pakistani, without creating more jobs, planning to handle the growing population, planning to control the electricity, water, hospitals, education, infrastructure......so its pretty clear that the dictators didn't care about Pakistan, even with ruling it for 60 years....and per YOU, the politicians don't care either, then who does??? Entertain me with your lack of smart as* logic!!!??

By the way, the things the military didn't do in their 60 years of rule, are the things the current government has been doing in less then three years. These people running Pakistan right now, have done MORE work, than what the military and other didn't do in the past 60+ years!!!

I'm actually getting tired of you. Every post you respond to it's either you're 16 or I know more than you because my posts have more words.

Where the fu<k have you been in the last 7 years when Gillani resigned as the PM rather than writing a letter to the Swiss to reopen the corruption cases against Zardari which the Supreme Court demanded? You want to talk about shit go ahead I don't need a fu<king Law degree to know that once a Minister resigns from Parliament they can't come back because they control Karachi. Nor do I need a political science degree to know how fu<ked up it is for the Supreme Court Chief Judge to rule on his son's corruption case in just 5 months while Memogate is still open. And not to mention the cases from 1948 that havent been heard where the petitioners and witnesses are long dead.

You want to talk about how great NS is? Go ahead talk about the $20 billion in Pakistan's Reserves that came from the IMF.

Go ahead talk about the CPEC which is just another loan, i'm sorry investment (which it is).

Go ahead talk about the daily mortar rounds killing Pakistani civilians along the IB/ LOC.

Go ahead talk about why it has to be the COAS to sign death warrants.

Go ahead talk about making electricity from oil, then furnace oil, you know economic you apparently are glued in to the Financial World tell me how cheap it is to produce electricity from oil.

Go ahead talk about how much less blackouts there are now in Pakistan, SS promised to end them in 6 months.

Go ahead talk about how confident Pakistani Politicians are with the services in Pakistan. Why do they need to go to Dubai or London or DC for routine medical procedures? Travel with 56 car motorcade? There are more fu<king police officers protecting SS's Peacocks than the common Pakistani.

You got US flags go to Pakistan see what the normal Pakistani feels everyday. Otherwise you go look at the shiny new JFTs and F-16s.

I'm not 16 I dont have a bed time. I got plenty of time. You not only lack knowledge about Pakistan but also common courtesy.

 

[Viper0011.]

I'm actually getting tired of you. Every post you respond to it's either you're 16 or I know more than you because my posts have more words.

Where the fu<k have you been in the last 7 years when Gillani resigned as the PM rather than writing a letter to the Swiss to reopen the corruption cases against Zardari which the Supreme Court demanded? You want to talk about shit go ahead I don't need a fu<king Law degree to know that once a Minister resigns from Parliament they can't come back because they control Karachi. Nor do I need a political science degree to know how fu<ked up it is for the Supreme Court Chief Judge to rule on his son's corruption case in just 5 months while Memogate is still open. And not to mention the cases from 1948 that havent been heard where the petitioners and witnesses are long dead.

You want to talk about how great NS is? Go ahead talk about the $20 billion in Pakistan's Reserves that came from the IMF.

Go ahead talk about the CPEC which is just another loan, i'm sorry investment (which it is).

Go ahead talk about the daily mortar rounds killing Pakistani civilians along the IB/ LOC.

Go ahead talk about why it has to be the COAS to sign death warrants.

Go ahead talk about making electricity from oil, then furnace oil, you know economic you apparently are glued in to the Financial World tell me how cheap it is to produce electricity from oil.

Go ahead talk about how much less blackouts there are now in Pakistan, SS promised to end them in 6 months.

Go ahead talk about how confident Pakistani Politicians are with the services in Pakistan. Why do they need to go to Dubai or London or DC for routine medical procedures? Travel with 56 car motorcade? There are more fu<king police officers protecting SS's Peacocks than the common Pakistani.

You got US flags go to Pakistan see what the normal Pakistani feels everyday. Otherwise you go look at the shiny new JFTs and F-16s.

I'm not 16 I dont have a bed time. I got plenty of time.

Where are the proofs????? I didn't ask for bullet point of one of IK's speech. I asked, where is NS robbing the country and destroying it (treason)??? And where are the PROOFS????

Of course you'd be getting tired of me. Because you don't have real facts. Verbal diarrhea + personal hate or support for one DOESN'T equal to one actually doing something wrong. For that, you got to show SOME REAL proofs!! So PROOFS please??

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Where are the proofs????? I didn't ask for bullet point of one of IK's speech. I asked, where is NS robbing the country and destroying it (treason)??? And where are the PROOFS????

Of course you'd be getting tired of me. Because you don't have real facts. Verbal diarrhea + personal hate or support for one DOESN'T equal to one actually doing something wrong. For that, you got to show SOME REAL proofs!! So PROOFS please??

There's something called Google. And I'm sure you know how to use the keyboard to write Nawaz Shariff Corruption cases.

I'm not tired of you because I lack facts, I'm tired of your blatant stupidity and endless propaganda. Refute my points. Go ahead.

My points aren't bullet points from IK. They are my points answer them.