Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[mulj]

My country have problems that a number of external observers might not be familiar with. Pakistani society is lacking in education, discipline, and values. Politicians are typically full of themselves. This too. It will take time to sort out this mess but I am not sure when this will be possible. The state should allow researchers to point out issues and work to address them. This will be a good start. There is also the need to build values so people do not enticed by perks and corruption.

Foreign pressure comes when the state does not live up to its claims and promises in dealings with foreign entities. There is a need to take public into confidence in these matters as well. The public should know what is happening.

I am aware to certain extent of your country problems as i follow this forum since beginning as spectator or participant and i always expressed respect and love for pakistani people which has not change in ounce,
Always saw you as potential major player of muslim world with great potential, that time will come eventually once you start to strategize and manage your country as it is in title, Islamic republic of Pakistan.

 

[LeGenD]

Every single argument why Russia is beyond the pale is given in reverse for why Israel are great. People have literally forgotten the meaning of a moral code and think it's flexible depending on what you want to claim

If there is something we can say for sure from this conflict is that a country Israel doesn't need to excuse themselves from war crimes as long as said country is an ally of the west.

The British have done a lousy job in Palestine and demographic conflict in this region have continued for too long. There is a need to address this problem but how it can be addressed is another problem. Israel shall be shifted to another region? Jerusalem shall be given to United Nations? The core issue is of creating a Jewish state that can exist peacefully.

United Nations came up with a solution in 1947 but Arab hotheads did not respect it at the time and the conflict continues. Now all want to revert to United Nations solution in 1947? How convenient.

There is a need for fresh proposals to address this ongoing conflict. Otherwise, local inhabitants shall be allowed to sort out this matter on their own. Some feel the need to interject but offer no solution besides useless statements. Iranian hothead solution will not work.

 

[khansaheeb]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1384424849095099

 

[Haldorss]

The correct point is to stop at, you take us for idiots. "Yes oirishman you're goyim. we are the british"

 

[Hack-Hook]

Shias make up 50% up middle eastern Muslim population, just like Sunni's. I've said plenty about Arab and Islamic states in this thread.

a question which Sunni government do shit for Palestine
its shia Hezbollah who occupied 1/3rd of Israel army in northern part.
its Shia Yemen who throw missile at Israel while 1700km away
a question for you what percentage of Palestinian neighbors are shia and what percentage are not and no shia people are way less than 50% of middle east.

on a side note what did your Palestinian brothers in west bank did . are you also going to blame that on Iran
by the way on the side note i wonder how you blame Shia after what Hamas did in Syria to not put their neck front for you by the way what we did and do still far outweigh what Sunni governments did for you guys

Their whole agenda would make sense if there is on Golan 100k force harassing and attacking zionist occupation forces but that is not the case, sadly i have to say they do their part of sectarian strife.
I can not condemn them completely because they do engage enemy in Liban and their fighters are getting martyred which i have to respect and honour but i will not stay silent on hypocrisy and their hostility towards syrian rebels and sunni majority in syria against assad, those forces would be great addition to the resistance if there is reason and honesty from both sides but now assad is busy bombing Idlib area in support of Gaza.

how syria can do that when you guys destroyed their country , how they can do that when there are terrorists in area of their country supported and protected by some other sunni country and some of their western masters.
doing so is exactly definition of suicide and by the way syria is the only majority sunni country which is still at war with israel guess that it has a secular government not a sectarian one

 

[PradoTLC]

And why was he held hostage for over a mounth ? what has he got to do with it ?

And why are 25 Thai hostages beng Held by Hamas , why 35 where murdered ? what have they got to do with it ?



34 Thai nationals were murdered by Hamas militants on October 7, and 25 members of the Thai community were kidnapped.

In Thailand, relatives of hostages in Gaza call for their release: 'This is too barbaric'

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www.haaretz.com

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Tanzanian student taken hostage by Hamas confirmed dead​

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The Tanzanian government has confirmed the death of a student taken hostage in the Hamas attack on Israel.

Clemence Felix Mtenga, 22, was one of two Tanzanians taken by the group on 7 October. It is unclear how he died.

The country's foreign ministry said it was in touch with Israel over the other Tanzanian hostage, Joshua Mollel.

More than 240 hostages were taken in the assault by Hamas, and at least 1400 people killed.

The hostages - which were taken from Israel to the Gaza Strip - come from 25 countries, including one South African who is yet to be identified.

Approximately 260 Tanzanians study agriculture in Israel, and both Mr Mtenga and Mr Mollel had been in the country as part of an agricultural internship programme, Israel's foreign ministry said on X.

The pair had only landed in Israel in September, and were due to study there for 11 months.

Mr Mtenga had been living on Kibbutz Nir Oz and working at a dairy farm in the afternoons, a friend and fellow student told the BBC.

When news of his kidnapping broke last month, his sister said his whole family were worried about him, but remained hopeful he would be rescued.

She said: "He should be courageous where he is, know that we love him and that we pray for him day and night, hoping that he will be back soon."

Tanzania's foreign ministry said Mr Mtenga's family had been informed, and that officials were liaising with the Israeli government to send his body home.

Mr Mollel's situation is currently unclear.

Before it was confirmed that he had been taken hostage, his father told the BBC he could not eat or sleep because he was desperate to know what had happened to him.

The last words he said to his son before he disappeared were: "Be on your best behaviour because you're somewhere new, and make the most of the internship you're there to do."

A total of four hostages have been released so far, with another freed by Israeli forces.

Hamas - considered a terrorist organisation by the UK, the US and some other countries - says it has hidden the hostages in "safe places and tunnels" within Gaza.

Tanzanian student taken hostage by Hamas confirmed dead

Clemence Felix Mtenga was an agriculture intern in Israel at the time of the Hamas attack.

www.bbc.com

 

[kingQamaR]

The British have done a lousy job in Palestine and demographic conflict in this region have continued for too long. There is a need to address this problem but how it can be addressed is another problem. Israel shall be shifted to another region? Jerusalem shall be given to United Nations? The core issue is of creating a Jewish state that can exist peacefully.

United Nations came up with a solution in 1947 but Arab hotheads did not respect it at the time and the conflict continues. Now all want to revert to United Nations solution in 1947? How convenient.

There is a need for fresh proposals to address this ongoing conflict. Otherwise, local inhabitants shall be allowed to sort out this matter on their own. Some feel the need to interject but offer no solution besides useless statements. Iranian hothead solution will not work.

The 1947 borders are way more fair then the current ones I honestly think Israel should not exist but we cant get rid of it right now Palestine is in too bad of a position

Israel should be divided in half. Most of the Southern District of Israel can be given to the Palestinians and be its own country, with its own state and representation in the UN. The other districts can be Israel proper and be governed by a Jewish state.
1 am not sure why modern day Israel extends all the way to the South. There are weak religious reasons for that, but I suppose it's because they consider the desert to be a buffer zone against the Arab nations. I suppose they employ a similar reasoning for keeping Golan Heights when it's supposed to be Syrain territory.
I am also of the opinion that they should give that land back to Syria, and that their defenses should be within their own territory.
They have advanced weaponry for that, so it won't be like in the past.

 

[Dalit]

Your useless Leaders can not even talk

EROGAN , Turkiye and Turkish economy will be under attack again

Talking about Pakistan. Imported Pakistani leader Nawaz Sharif:

Nawaz, US ambassador meet in Lahore, discuss political and economic situation

Separately, Zardari meets British envoy in Karachi, discusses bilateral ties; urges UK to play role in ending Gaza crisis.

www.dawn.com

This is Pakistan nowadays. CIA ambassador of the US stationed in Pakistan gets to handle and deal with Pakistani matters. By the way, the upcoming elections have already been rigged and the US has its favorite candidate on display.

Pakistan is a loan pariah. An IMF client state. Reeling from a mountain of debt and still pleading for more loans. Pakistan has nowhere to hide. Its economy is being run by the IMF. The IMF dictates the policies. You can safely claim that Pakistan will remain in this pathetic limbo for decades to come as many developing nations in the region move ahead. I predict that Nepal is going to move ahead of Pakistan.

You are absolutely correct. Pakistan is a prime example of a country that has nothing to offer to anyone let alone the Palestinian cause.

 

[PakistaniandProud]

I didn’t agree with Shah on everything, but he was a very strong ally for Pakistan during our wars with India. @HGV @SalarHack @SalarHaqq @Stryker1982 @Hack-Hook @Mehdipersian

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723625834970304947

On another note, the amount of Iranians who liked the quoted tweet is straggering.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723568220425130341

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

unless Arab states and their dictators are removed especially that mofo Mah. Abbas the king of Jordan and the psycho of Syria, Sisi, etc there will never be a Palestinian state, Arab dictators are enemies of humanity. Iran and their proxies are worse than zio’s.

Indonesia and Turkiye are somewhat the only normal countries with certain amount of democrasy and administrations representing their citizens. The Arab coutries must to be liberated

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Without Turkiye the whole so called muslim and Arab world are pathetic. Useless, no influence no power no military power only talk like and fight with pathetic weapons like Iran and their proxies

 

[FourMikeEcho]

Yes wonderful , more than a million displaced people and the war only started.

Had they any responsiblity they would go and join their Hamas bodies in their 5 stars hotel in Qatar or Turkey , or Iran , and spare pointless suffering to all.

This can only end one way , with Hamas on boats out or dead. What is not yet determined is how much blood need to be spilled till that happens.

Judging from your reactions , much more apparently.

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This will en with Hamas dead, but fortunately by taking 10,000 more Israelis with them. Thats what their plan is

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Iran and their proxies, Arab states and their dictators. These are the real pro-zio’s.

Saddam said the same, Gaddafi said the same.

 

[Dalit]

unless Arab states and their dictators are removed especially that mofo Mah. Abbas the king of Jordan and the psycho of Syria, Sisi, etc there will never be a Palestinian state, Arab dictators are enemies of humanity. Iran and their proxies are worse than zio’s.

Indonesia and Turkiye are somewhat the only normal countries with certain amount of democrasy and administrations representing their citizens. The Arab coutries must to be liberated

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The simple truth is that Islamic countries have lost. They are pathetic. All of them. Some are more pathetic than others. We have witnessed in broad daylight a massacre of innocent people. The response from the Islamic nations speaks for itself. This is how defeated abject failures react.

Conclusion: Islamic countries have lost.

To make matters worse, most Islamic countries are ruled by barbaric and illiterate savages. These Islamic countries are in a constant grip of dictators. There is no easy way out of this vicious cycle. That by the way is another loss for Islamic peoples.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

 

[Bugsy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725804159062901003

Well done hamass and its supporters.
What good is winning a war when all your civilians are dead.
Surrender you morons and spare the life of innocent people instead oh hiding.